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Is there any evidence that widespread availability of firearms leads to a higher suicide rate? US has a higher murder rate than any other modern nation, but the same is not true of suicide. Belgium, France, and Sweden all have suicide rates that are significantly higher than the US. Private ownership of firearms is virtually non-exitent in Japan and South Korea, but those countries have much higher suicide rates than we do.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on January 17, 2013 at 4:44 PM · Report this
I'm curious about suicide rates too. If people don't have guns won't they find other ways to end it all?

Posted by Neurotic Cat on January 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM · Report this
@3 Suicide culture is entirely different in Asian countries.
Posted by OOF POOF on January 17, 2013 at 5:36 PM · Report this
"625 King County residents were killed by gun violence ... 460 were self-inflicted."

So 165 people were killed by gun violence, and suicide is a much bigger problem. Maybe we should make suicide illegal?
Posted by Rotted Oak on January 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM · Report this
Lew Siffer 10
A health problem? Like overeating and no exercise? Tobacco? The sheer volume of lives lost to diabetes, heart disease, etc swamps gun deaths. The above is slow suicide.

Somehow if you feel like going fast, suciciding with a gun, then that is bad, and gun violence.

Imagine how many lives would be saved with a mandatory boot camp like exercise regimen for all citizens, 2 hrs a day. "If it saves just one life...we have to try."

Save one life is the weakest fucking argument ever made.
Posted by Lew Siffer on January 17, 2013 at 6:51 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 11
Why is it when you hustlers are trying to sell high rise condos, you say that violent crime is at an all time low.

But when you want to confiscate guns, you paint a picture of a city haunted by madmen.

Which is it?
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http:// on January 17, 2013 at 6:55 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 12
Also while we are at it lets tattoo a red bio hazard symbol on the foreheads of all people who are HIV+ it will prevent people from being unknowingly infected, if it saves one life it is worth it.

I find it a bit ironic that doctors are trying to classify firearms ownership as a disease considering that prescriptions written in illegible handwriting kill 7000 people a year…

Let's stop doctors from writing prescriptions if it saves one life it's worth it

Also do you know what kills more people than guns crime in the USA? C. difficile infections caused by antibiotics, again prescribed by doctors,, they kill an average of 14,000 people a year.…
Fecal transplants for everyone, if it saves one life it's worth it.

Let us also ban bodies of water and boating for they kill far more people than rifles…

Remember if it saves one life IT'S WORTH IT!
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on January 17, 2013 at 7:27 PM · Report this
@12 I love my AR. I'd really like to be able to get an AK, and a Sig556, and a PS90 to go with it. On a personal level I hope the congress refuses to pass any new gun laws. However, the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern nation and I think our permissive gun laws are one of the reasons for that. I don't want America to have stricter gun laws, but I think America probably should have stricter gun laws.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on January 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 14
Ok. Sorry, Cienna, but what is the point of this post? Something about guns, obviously. But what?

What are you saying? Your post is confusing.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on January 17, 2013 at 11:22 PM · Report this
Dr_Awesome 15
Cascadian Bacon, back for more idiot concern trolling.

Here's a thought or two to consider, CB.

Antibiotics: Only available via prescription, and only in small amounts. Consumers can't buy them, because one must be highly trained and certified to use them properly. So how about we make bullets only available "via prescription". You have to show a documentable need in order to get bullets, then you have to get them from a licensed dispenser, one that is only allowed (by law) to dispense you one or two day's worth.

And how about we license boats, since boats (and bodies of water) are dangerous. And require people to undergo a boating safety course before they are allowed to operate a boat. Because we know that boats can be dangerous if misused, and it's a fact that boater's safety courses (and requiring life jackets and other protective devices) makes boating safer.

Bonus points- how about we regulate boating manufacturers, and require them to build in passive safety features (such as padding and floatation elements) to help make boat designss safer.

Oh... wait, we already do that. Let's turn our attention to making guns safer now, since we've shown that fact-based reasonable approaches make other dangerous things safer.

Posted by Dr_Awesome on January 18, 2013 at 6:57 AM · Report this

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