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So that police cruisers can enter/exit the police station and you know, respond to emergencies, has zero to do with the "moat" around the station? Gotcha.
Posted by nador on January 23, 2013 at 7:33 AM · Report this
pfffter 2
They know they are hated. Pity they don't do anything to change it but just wall themselves up.
Posted by pfffter on January 23, 2013 at 7:46 AM · Report this
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Thanks for posting this, Dominic. This is controversial, but I chalk much of this up to imperial rot. We're seeing the tactics used to suppress populations abroad come home, in the form of militarized police tactics and constant surveillance, to name a few.
Posted by Tent_Liberation_Army on January 23, 2013 at 7:48 AM · Report this
Kinison 4
You can thank Occupy Wall Street for this. Neo Anarchists will always flock to large marches, they love to stir up a shit storm and have no problems turning a peaceful protest into a chaotic situation for their own amusement.
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on January 23, 2013 at 7:49 AM · Report this
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Of course the SPD doesn't trust civilians. Occupational psychosis. When you're a hammer, the world is full of nails.
Posted by Sir Vic on January 23, 2013 at 7:52 AM · Report this
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Let's not overreact, shall we?
Posted by tacomagirl on January 23, 2013 at 7:52 AM · Report this
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That's one way to look at it, sure.
Posted by gloomy gus on January 23, 2013 at 8:05 AM · Report this
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@1, @5 yes, I could see your point about emergency egress if the police were still using horses and semaphore flags instead of "motorized vehicles" and "wire-less radio." The report is correct: this is another example of the counter-insurgency model that police have used for 20 years. Maybe you didn't get the memo.
Posted by Che Guava on January 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM · Report this
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@4 Finding scapegoat groups to justify heavy-handed, militarized policing. How very freedom-loving of you.
Posted by Tent_Liberation_Army on January 23, 2013 at 8:17 AM · Report this
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@4, Sort of unfair to blame Occupy. The anarchists though is probably quite correct (and probably the ability to get in and out unobstructed (emergencies/anarchists?). It's actually kinda depressing to see the moat with that thought in mind. But this is somewhat matter of fact pragmatism on the part of SPD. So no Randy Rowland, it isn't you they don't trust. It's the jackasses that might co-opt your peaceful demonstration.
Posted by Bean on January 23, 2013 at 8:18 AM · Report this
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@13 I get what you're saying, but if a few anarchists are enough to push us towards this kind of stuff, that isn't their fault. Seriously, does this seem like the best response - to justify their critique of all government legitimacy being at core based on violence? Maybe the problem is that they're right.
Posted by Tent_Liberation_Army on January 23, 2013 at 8:25 AM · Report this
Ian Awesome 16
@12 The Slog is just chock full of police apologists. You're wasting your time.
Posted by Ian Awesome http://oneangryqueer.blogspot.com on January 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM · Report this
emor 17
Having trouble getting that worked up about this one, honestly.
Posted by emor on January 23, 2013 at 8:44 AM · Report this
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@4: I know it's a lot of words, but you really ought to read the entire statement under the picture.
Posted by treehugger on January 23, 2013 at 8:49 AM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 20
I'm pretty sure the SPD is racist and out of control. But not because of this. It's not even 9 yet and we've possibly got the dumbest Slog post of the day.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on January 23, 2013 at 8:51 AM · Report this
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@18: Your meds. Take them.
Posted by treehugger on January 23, 2013 at 8:51 AM · Report this
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11: yes police have radio cars (and bicycles) but they dont have matter transporters. Cars and vans require a fair amount of street to move quickly in (1 lane) and out (1 lane).

Not saying that's the reason (seriously I dont know) but it is a possible reason.

Posted by david on January 23, 2013 at 8:54 AM · Report this
Rotten666 23
Yeah, I can't bother to get outraged by this. What @20 said.

Posted by Rotten666 on January 23, 2013 at 9:03 AM · Report this
Looking For a Better Read 24
Did you bother to ask SPD about this? Or your BFF Mayor? Perhaps they would have a reasonable explanation; or would that be too much journalistic effort?
Posted by Looking For a Better Read on January 23, 2013 at 9:59 AM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 25
WOW such pompous self importance. People do their jobs regardless of how you see them.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on January 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM · Report this
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Seriously. A lane so emergency vehicles can get in and out is not a "barricade" and 8 guys standing around with their hands in their pockets is not a "platoon of officers".
Posted by tacomagirl on January 23, 2013 at 10:35 AM · Report this
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Outstanding posting, Dom, outstanding.

And for how the FBI feebs view us:

(This occurred after, but in the similar timeframe, as the unlawful arrest of Alabama's (democratic) Gov. Siegelman.)

http://blog.locustfork.net/2008/02/anoth…

February 1 – The morning calm in the small Alabama town of Toney, near Huntsville, was broken at 6:15 Thursday morning when a team of five FBI agents, accompanied by a prison matron, pounded on the door. When the man of the house answered, he was forced into the yard, shirtless in the early morning cold.

They came for his wife, Sue Schmitz, a diminutive, 63-year-old retired social studies and civics teacher who has lived in the town for 38 years. She was dragged out of her bathroom, where she was taking a shower, and handcuffed – breaking her flesh and scraping her wrists as she was hustled off to prison.

Who was this threat to society? Sue Schmitz is a well-respected state legislator who is loved in her community and by her students and is truly legendary for her passion for civics and outreach to the disadvantaged. The dream of her life was to let the fire of civic spirit catch on in communities and among families on the margin of society, where the danger of drug abuse and criminality are the highest. She dedicated her life to it.

She launched a program called “We the People,” designed to build civic spirit and interest in participatory democracy among school children. And Ms. Schmitz’s advocacy of civic engagement led directly to her conflict with U.S. Attorney Alice Martin, who considers it to be a criminal act.

And...

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/04/form…

April 03, 2012, 4:27 PM

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- Former state Rep. Sue Schmitz is a free woman after completing a 30-month prison sentence resulting from a 2009 conviction on federal mail fraud and theft charges.

Schmitz, 67, was released from custody Friday, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons. After serving the bulk of her sentence at a minimum-security prison camp in Lexington, Ky., she was transferred in December to a halfway house in Birmingham.

(From Dom's posting:) "..or whoever is in charge"

Community Development Roundtable? The banksters paying the coppers those extra salaries?

One wonders . . . .
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Posted by sgt_doom on January 23, 2013 at 10:40 AM · Report this
SPG 28
Not going to get worked up over this either.
The "anarchist" brats have a long history of fucking up peaceful demonstrations so this is no surprise. I'm actually more surprised they didn't try anything on MLK day.
Posted by SPG on January 23, 2013 at 11:10 AM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 29
The police station needs to have a lane clear for emergency response vehicles to get through, as would a fire station or hospital.

Though judging by the comments I can see why the police would fear a large hostile crowd. Seems funny that the same people who understand why the president has armed guards do not understand why a police station would need to be protected.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on January 23, 2013 at 11:18 AM · Report this
Geraldo Riviera 30
@29 Was the president in that station? Is that what you are saying?
Posted by Geraldo Riviera on January 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM · Report this
watchout5 31
Did they go around counting how many people there were? They love that kind of harassment. If you don't have enough people you can't protest, clearly the constitution was about protecting the police's right to tell smaller groups of protesters to fuck off but this big group needs to know who's boss. Remember last year at the MLK protest when...wait...
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on January 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM · Report this

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