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I'd be interested in seeing the figures from Spokane, Grant, and Washington's other red state counties before I drew a firm conclusion one way or the other about the effect of I-502 on DUI prosecution numbers.
Posted by Mr. X on February 6, 2013 at 4:09 PM · Report this
bleedingheartlibertarian 2
So did they talk about the actual science or just the patients cherry-picked by docs that write referrals?
Posted by bleedingheartlibertarian on February 6, 2013 at 4:13 PM · Report this
Everyone, and I do mean literally everyone, is utterly oblivious to the fact that I-502 -- and as a result, now state law -- SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES THE LONG-HALFLIFE FORM OF THC from the 5ng/L measurement.

The constant screeching that 5ng/L of THC stays in the blood for many weeks and therefore I-502 will put people in jail for driving three weeks after smoking a joint is FLAT OUT BULLSHIT.…
Posted by K on February 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM · Report this
raku 4
I think you misunderstood the argument about pot DUI's. Legalization opponents were using an acronym- they were worried about "Protecting-ridiculously-huge-medical-marijuana-profits Oh Toot Dubba Ubba Iiiiiii's".
Posted by raku on February 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 5
What I worry about are WSP drones carrying bags of Cheetos to bust drivers with.

The science is still being worked on, so hopefully the measures will be fine tuned over the next few years.
Posted by Will in Seattle on February 6, 2013 at 5:07 PM · Report this
Some studies show that some drivers perform better while cannabis influenced. Similar data exists for airline pilots and nuclear power workers. These are considered valid studies. Peer reviewed, published and in some cases, replicated.
Posted by pupuguru on February 6, 2013 at 8:51 PM · Report this
@6: the same exists for alcohol, though. A couple drinks can tighten reflexes and awareness in some drivers. I still don't think it's something that should be encouraged.

You drink, you smoke, you stay home or get a designated driver. Stock up on snacks BEFORE partaking.
Posted by NateMan on February 7, 2013 at 7:23 AM · Report this
watchout5 8
"She adds that prosecutors are waiting on lab results in a couple cases."

Isn't one of those cases in regards to a guy who hit a pedestrian in the crosswalk while stoned, admitted to being stoned and then the pedestrian died? If there's a poster child for what it means to get a marijuana DUI in Washington state I really don't think people have much to worry about.
Posted by watchout5 on February 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM · Report this
jezbian 9
back in the 80s i worked as an assistant at defensive driving school, and amongst the videos the students had to watch as part of their education was one that i think should be re-done for the current era. (i think it was probably made in the very late 70s or very early 80s)

basically it was a highway patrol-supervised driving test. i want to say it was done in california. there was a flat course that had to be driven by the participants a few times - first while stone cold sober. then following a certain amount of alcohol, then again with more alcohol. each person was filmed in conversation before and after each run, and a highway patrol member was in the passenger side of the car with similar controls that a driving instructor would have. the course looked similar to the large areas the mythbusters use for most of their experiments with moving vehicles.

as soon as 502 made it onto the ballot and i have been watching the multitude of discussions about the pros and cons of the DUI part of the initiative cum law i had a dream that the stranger would partner with the washington state patrol in running a similar test but with the subjects smoking/vaping and/or eating cannabis. heck if possible the test could span two days - first day test them sober, then after some alcohol. second day test them (sober again? then) on cannabis. film it all, measure what can be measured, get it on film, and let people watch for themselves.

i have been trying to locate the name of the original video from the 80s online to no avail. i found one link to a study that was done in israel a few years ago that was completed in a simulator:…

anyone else interested in seeing something like that done here now that 502 has passed?
Posted by jezbian on February 7, 2013 at 10:51 PM · Report this
undead ayn rand 10
@1: Are you expecting anything specific?
Posted by undead ayn rand on February 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM · Report this

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