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Seattle's Finest Anti-Gay, Homo-Obsessed Bigot Praises the "Profound Fidelity" of World's Top Alleged Child-Rape Apologist Nazi
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Every time I see his name, I always have to look twice, because the first time I always see Satan, not Sartain.
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I though Seattle's "finest anti-gay, homo-obsessed bigot" was Kenneth Hutcherson, so much so, that when I read the headline, I assumed it was gonna be a post about Hutcherson praising ol' Joey Ratz. Guess that REALLY says alot about Sartain, hmmm.
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I would agree with your assessment. Hunthausen was, by far, one of our communities strongest allies. Ratzinger the Rottweiler persecuted him horribly and even stripped him of the ability to act without gettingapproval from a papal legate. Through it all Hunthausen stood up for what was right, even though he could have chosen silence.
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Maladict's preferred successor is Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana, who is a homophobic bigot like only an African fundamentalist can be.
On the upside, the Prophecy of the Popes, supposedly written by St. Malachy and first published in 1595, has only one pope to go before "the end." The prophecy labels him "Peter the Roman," a name that Turkman already has at home thanks to his special training at the Vatican. If Turkman is elevated to the papacy, I have little doubt that the Roman Catholic Church will face a schism between liberals and conservatives that makes the Reformation look like a church picnic.
On the upside, the Prophecy of the Popes, supposedly written by St. Malachy and first published in 1595, has only one pope to go before "the end." The prophecy labels him "Peter the Roman," a name that Turkman already has at home thanks to his special training at the Vatican. If Turkman is elevated to the papacy, I have little doubt that the Roman Catholic Church will face a schism between liberals and conservatives that makes the Reformation look like a church picnic.
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Note that Fr Ryan has been serving at St James, and stood up for Hunthausen. This likely cost him being Archbishop of Seattle. There are MANY very compassionate local Catholics, Fr Ryan included, who deserve far better Church leadership!
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The best thing compassionate local Catholics could do to show how much they deserve better leadership would be to form their own Church and leave Rome behind. Not that I entertain any hope of seeing that in my lifetime.
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"Papal smear" just got another vote. I hope it wins.
As a drunken cradle to grave Catholic, Sartain is an asshat lackey. I mean that in the nicest possible way.
As a drunken cradle to grave Catholic, Sartain is an asshat lackey. I mean that in the nicest possible way.
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It's not an allegation. It's a fact. The halloween missive is available online. He clearly asks bishops to participate in obstruction of justice by sending evidence of chile abuse to Vatican consulates. He should have been tried of conspiracy to commit child rape.
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I don't doubt Ratzinger's bigotry and his complicity in covering child rape, but I don't think it's appropriate to harp on his brief service in the Hitler Youth, since a lot of people were dragged into it involuntarily and there's no cause to doubt his claim that he was one of them. Focus on the real crimes for which there is evidence, please. You don't need to run afoul of Godwin's Law to point out what a huge douche he is.
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Wait a minute... Ratzinger was pope. The Bishops or whatever asked God to choose the next leader of the Church and God told them to pick the German.
Somewhere in the story some magic smoke appears in a chimney and viola, the Church has a new guy closer to God than any other living man.
So is Ratzinger saying that God was wrong when God told the Bishops or whatever to pick him?
You know why no other pope has resigned in 600 years? Because no other pope would insult the very fucking religion of which he's the head by pointing out that God made a mistake when God hired him.
Keep in mind, the Church and its Pope has suffered far worse scandals during the 600 years in which no other Pope resigned... you know, stuff like the birth of Rationalism, the Protestant Revolution, the conquest of the new world, etc.. etc..
As someone who knows some Catholics, I don't understand how they're not completely insulted right now.
Somewhere in the story some magic smoke appears in a chimney and viola, the Church has a new guy closer to God than any other living man.
So is Ratzinger saying that God was wrong when God told the Bishops or whatever to pick him?
You know why no other pope has resigned in 600 years? Because no other pope would insult the very fucking religion of which he's the head by pointing out that God made a mistake when God hired him.
Keep in mind, the Church and its Pope has suffered far worse scandals during the 600 years in which no other Pope resigned... you know, stuff like the birth of Rationalism, the Protestant Revolution, the conquest of the new world, etc.. etc..
As someone who knows some Catholics, I don't understand how they're not completely insulted right now.
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"Papal smear" hands down! And @14, nobody rags him for being in the Hitler Youth at 14. It was joining the Nazi Party at 18 and joining an anti-aircraft unit to shoot down Americans that raises hackles. The whole "Hitler Youth was mandatory" was brought up by Ratzo's apologists to distract from what he did as an adult.
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Archbishop Sa_ta_n isn't fooling anyone. Just like his buddy-in-arms, Pope Rat, he protests just a little too much about "The Gays". And just like Pope Rat's Nazi forebears, Sa_ta_n shoots the gays to prove he is not one of them.
He is the worst kind of hypocrite, hateful & homophobic, just like the other strange old buzzards that came before him ...Ted "Rent Boy" Haggard, George "Lifting My Luggage" Rekers, Larry "Wide Stance" Craig ...the list goes on.
He is the worst kind of hypocrite, hateful & homophobic, just like the other strange old buzzards that came before him ...Ted "Rent Boy" Haggard, George "Lifting My Luggage" Rekers, Larry "Wide Stance" Craig ...the list goes on.
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@20: Yes, a former Hitler youth joins the Nazi party as young adult. And we can also recall a former leader of the as KKK well into his adulthood, but decades later became the Democratic Majority Leader of the United States Senate and served his state of West Virginia very well for several decades and his past bigoted transgressions were seldom talked about. However, Nazi is just such an exciting adjective to use that any stretch reason to squeeze it in seems to be fair game.
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If all the stupid stuff we do at 18 were held against us our entire lives, we'd none of us be qualified to hold an opinion on anything.
Germany was a totalitarian state. It also had a military draft. Only a very, very few had the courage to do anything to oppose the Nazis from within. Of the rest, some were enthusiastic supporters while most just kept their heads down, as would most of the people posting here, if fascism were to come to the USA.
We rightly celebrate the first group. We abhor the second. The third were the everyday people like ourselves.
His childhood obviously had an effect on him. Benedict was widely respected by Jewish religious and political leaders alike for his willingness to reach out to them. If anyone had reason to distrust him on the basis of his former associations, they did. The fact that they instead embraced him settles the question as far as I'm concerned.
Germany was a totalitarian state. It also had a military draft. Only a very, very few had the courage to do anything to oppose the Nazis from within. Of the rest, some were enthusiastic supporters while most just kept their heads down, as would most of the people posting here, if fascism were to come to the USA.
We rightly celebrate the first group. We abhor the second. The third were the everyday people like ourselves.
His childhood obviously had an effect on him. Benedict was widely respected by Jewish religious and political leaders alike for his willingness to reach out to them. If anyone had reason to distrust him on the basis of his former associations, they did. The fact that they instead embraced him settles the question as far as I'm concerned.
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If we're holding a man to the actions and beliefs of the organization of which he was a part, I believe calling him a Nazi kind-of waters down the real slur on his name: he was a Bishop and a Pope.
If the all history's bishops and popes got together in hell with Hitler and had an evil-off, Hitler doesn't make it past the first round.
If the all history's bishops and popes got together in hell with Hitler and had an evil-off, Hitler doesn't make it past the first round.
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If we do horrid stuff in our youth and then continue to do the same horrid stuff then we get blamed for our youth. If we turn from those wicked ways then it gets shrugged off.
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@23, the man hates gays. He hates women. He hates muslims. And probably Jews too. The man's a fucking nazi, and would have been even if he hadn't come from Nazi Germany.
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@23, Ratzinger was not widely respected by Jews when he reinstituted the mass language that specified Jews should be converted, and when he reinstated the priest who denied the Holocaust. It wasn't his young adulthood that was the problem; it was his actions as Pope.
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22, C'mon Phoebe. This isn't Godwin's Law here. He was an *actual* Nazi, regalia & everything. And you'll have to do far better than that to convince me his attitudes have changed. Sure, he's not advocating full-scale destruction of the Jewish race, because that's not feasible. But as 27 points out, his actions don't speak loudly that he's renounced his Nazi past in his heart of hearts.
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This is an original poem
Rot in Hell Buttpackers
If your a queer, you take it in the rear;
We think your sick because you have poop on your di--;
AIDS was a blessing from God;
For misdirecting the location of your rod;
The only good faggots;
Are food for maggots;
So go find a corner and die;
I assure you no one will cry.
Rot in Hell Buttpackers
If your a queer, you take it in the rear;
We think your sick because you have poop on your di--;
AIDS was a blessing from God;
For misdirecting the location of your rod;
The only good faggots;
Are food for maggots;
So go find a corner and die;
I assure you no one will cry.
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@29: AIDS as divine retribution is a 30 year-old insult. Dirty limericks are significantly older than that. If your going to be an asshole, try to be a CONTEMPORARY asshole. Otherwise, people just fall asleep, you know?
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