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I really wish I had not slept through poetry appreciation in high school. I'm convinced now I'm missing something.
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"A typo plagues your grim octet" Right on, Reverend Tap!
And this dreadful piece of doggerel makes it clear that homophobic bigots focus obsessively on poop.
And this dreadful piece of doggerel makes it clear that homophobic bigots focus obsessively on poop.
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FH, you're upset by poop and butts. This is common and understandable (for people under 6). You may be able to deal with this through therapy or simply getting a life. If you're unwilling to work on it, just take it for what it is. You can avoid poop by not having pets or kids and consuming only clear liquids. No need to extraneously attach your feelings about poop to other people. But if you really do feel the need to hate on others for playing with poop, why not stick to a more applicable group, such as poop fetishists or babies?
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Holy crap...Reverend Tap wrote an honest-to-god Shakespearean sonnet in response (I mean, literally, that's the form...one of the few things i actually remember from high school English). So awesome!
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It's true that Dan's last line scans better, but such a minor quibble when the rest of the poem is so glorious. Huzzah, Rev. Tap!
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@15
No, I don't think it's a Shakespearean sonnet. I think that those have three quatrains with alternating rhymes plus a rhyming couplet, for a total of 14 lines, each of five iambs.
So the rhyme scheme is something like ABAB CDCD EFEF GG.
Rev Tap's is actually a little more complex, imo. It's four quatrains and a couplet, with three rhymes in each quatrain and then the third lines of each pair of quatrains rhyming. And it's four feet instead of five per line. I wasn't much good with scansion, so I couldn't tell you if it's iambic.
No, I don't think it's a Shakespearean sonnet. I think that those have three quatrains with alternating rhymes plus a rhyming couplet, for a total of 14 lines, each of five iambs.
So the rhyme scheme is something like ABAB CDCD EFEF GG.
Rev Tap's is actually a little more complex, imo. It's four quatrains and a couplet, with three rhymes in each quatrain and then the third lines of each pair of quatrains rhyming. And it's four feet instead of five per line. I wasn't much good with scansion, so I couldn't tell you if it's iambic.
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It's iambic tetrameter (four feet per line) or "blank verse," as opposed to a sonnet which is always iambic pentameter (five feet per line). And a sonnet is always fourteen lines (three quatrains and a couplet), while this poem adds an extra quatrain.
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How repulsive! If you're going to write a poem that does nothing but slam someone, at least get the number of syllables right. Poems have rhyme and rhythm, fool.
If seeing one man give another a peck on the lips in a public place leaves FH's head reeling with visions of poop on dicks and other perversions, then the problem is with him and not with them. Seeing a man and a woman kiss in public doesn't conjure visions of disgustingness, does it? (I'm talking about pecks on the lips. If you're gallumphing around like a mad scientist fused your digestive tracts together at the lips like something out of Human Centipede then you gotta take it somewhere private no matter who you are.)
If seeing one man give another a peck on the lips in a public place leaves FH's head reeling with visions of poop on dicks and other perversions, then the problem is with him and not with them. Seeing a man and a woman kiss in public doesn't conjure visions of disgustingness, does it? (I'm talking about pecks on the lips. If you're gallumphing around like a mad scientist fused your digestive tracts together at the lips like something out of Human Centipede then you gotta take it somewhere private no matter who you are.)
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@18: You're right it is not in classic sonnet form. Rev. Taps' being in iambic tetrameter, plus the fact that the the third line in each stanza is linked in rhyme to another stanza, reminds me of Frost's "Stopping by Wooods on Snowy Evening", although the rhyme scheme is a slightly different
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15, 18, ummm..... no. This is a sonnet as much as Justin Beiber is a song-writer or Pauly Shore is an actor.
There are a variety of rhyming schemes that can be used in a sonnet, but the important part is that it is fourteen lines comprising of three quatrains and couplet. Vital is the meter. Ten syllables, emphasis of the even-numbered ones. eg. shall I comPARE thee TO a SUMmer's DAY?
The above poem is 18 lines, one quatrain too many for a sonnet. Worse, it has eight syllables per line, and while it works well for rapping, it certainly doesn't work for sonnets. The cadence is repetitive w/ no natural flow. Hey, give him props for putting the closeted self-hating violent thug in his place. It rhymes. But a sonnet it's not.
There are a variety of rhyming schemes that can be used in a sonnet, but the important part is that it is fourteen lines comprising of three quatrains and couplet. Vital is the meter. Ten syllables, emphasis of the even-numbered ones. eg. shall I comPARE thee TO a SUMmer's DAY?
The above poem is 18 lines, one quatrain too many for a sonnet. Worse, it has eight syllables per line, and while it works well for rapping, it certainly doesn't work for sonnets. The cadence is repetitive w/ no natural flow. Hey, give him props for putting the closeted self-hating violent thug in his place. It rhymes. But a sonnet it's not.
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FH's profile has a second poem that's actually worse, poetically speaking, than the one Dan reproduced. It includes the same poop-on-di-- line.
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Shall I compare thee to a stupid git?
Thou art more vulgar and intemperate.
Rough words do but reveal thee for a twit,
Whose wits do wander, sadly desolate.
Pro-tip: A grasp of grammar helps the most,
though logic clear eludes thy tortured mind,
Argumentum ad hominem you boast
and veiled threats, but nothing more refined.
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate,
and hate to suffering," quoth one wise soul,
Though one suspects that latencies to sate
Explain why you obsess o'er certain hole.
Satire is best when it is self-inflicted,
Though, coming from your ilk, quite well predicted.
There. Happy now? :)
Thou art more vulgar and intemperate.
Rough words do but reveal thee for a twit,
Whose wits do wander, sadly desolate.
Pro-tip: A grasp of grammar helps the most,
though logic clear eludes thy tortured mind,
Argumentum ad hominem you boast
and veiled threats, but nothing more refined.
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate,
and hate to suffering," quoth one wise soul,
Though one suspects that latencies to sate
Explain why you obsess o'er certain hole.
Satire is best when it is self-inflicted,
Though, coming from your ilk, quite well predicted.
There. Happy now? :)
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@19: Sorry, poetry (particularly rhyming poetry such as this) written in iambic tetrameter is not blank verse. Rather, blank verse is poetry written in iambic pentameter that does not rhyme. Most of Shakespeare's plays are written in blank verse.
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If you want to see social commentary in verse done up right and proper, google "Digital Cuttlefish."
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I just want to say, the second poem is much better. Part if it is that AABB is the worst type of poem, limericks weep about it.
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let's see what we can make of this mess (without doing too much violence to the author's intent);
Ode to the Twenty Two Percent
Disgusting fags, alas, you will die;
Predictable fate of perverts. T'would be vain to cry.
You are gross. And queer;
(yuck!) You take it in the rear!
You are (or soon shall be) extremely sick;
Because you get faeces on your dick;
The inevitable role for nasty ass faggots;
Is in the ground. Food for maggots.
[signed] E.coli
Ode to the Twenty Two Percent
Disgusting fags, alas, you will die;
Predictable fate of perverts. T'would be vain to cry.
You are gross. And queer;
(yuck!) You take it in the rear!
You are (or soon shall be) extremely sick;
Because you get faeces on your dick;
The inevitable role for nasty ass faggots;
Is in the ground. Food for maggots.
[signed] E.coli
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Really, nothing wins hearts and minds like a name such as FaggotHater. Good job shooting yourself in the foot. People like you made passing R-74 so much easier. (Or maybe you homophobes quit trying a long time ago?)
Well done, Rev Tap. I am impressed.
Well done, Rev Tap. I am impressed.
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http://www.poets.org/page.php/prmID/197 Check out the list of poetic forms -- click on the name of an example.
Rev Tap and Avast -- you have made the day of many English teachers. Keep up the good work!
And what did poor Mr. Hater get for his work? A lovely discussion of poetry.
Thanks Dan
Rev Tap and Avast -- you have made the day of many English teachers. Keep up the good work!
And what did poor Mr. Hater get for his work? A lovely discussion of poetry.
Thanks Dan
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Holy crap--thanks for the shout out, Dan!
Wow, and everybody else is analyzing my goofy little poem all serious-like. Kind of surreal. For the record, I wasn't following any named rhyme scheme I'm aware of, I agree that Dan's final line scans better than mine, and I just have to laugh that a typo snuck into my post right after I called FH out on his.
Wow, and everybody else is analyzing my goofy little poem all serious-like. Kind of surreal. For the record, I wasn't following any named rhyme scheme I'm aware of, I agree that Dan's final line scans better than mine, and I just have to laugh that a typo snuck into my post right after I called FH out on his.
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@32: Thank you, though I think Rev Tap's was more inspired. It's easy to jump in as a copycat and plagiarist/parodist of an existing poem. Much harder to be first on the scene and fully original. (That said, please don't let me discourage any additional well-deserved spankings for FaggotHater. I'm sure it would be highly entertaining. Takers?)
Well done, Reverend! For some reason (something about the rhyme scheme) I am hearing your poem set to Dwarvish song, a la Bilbo's drawing room...?
Well done, Reverend! For some reason (something about the rhyme scheme) I am hearing your poem set to Dwarvish song, a la Bilbo's drawing room...?
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It wasn't a typo... I'm guessing the author of the poem is Australian, where it's common to use the word "as" to modify an adjective....
"This vacation is fun as!"
"This pizza is good as!"
"Ew! That wart on your face is nasty as!!"
"This vacation is fun as!"
"This pizza is good as!"
"Ew! That wart on your face is nasty as!!"
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@36 for the Haiku win, however:
Such compressed poems
with seventeen syllables
can't have much meaning
-D. Hofstadter
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