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i believe irish catholic JFK's election was seen in a similar light by "real americans". have we elected any catholics since then? nope.
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You're right, Cholly. If it weren't the place of birth issue, it'd be something else because these people want another half-wit (just like them) in the White House and - shall we say it? - they will hound and sizzle and spew until they get that "N-word" out of office.
This is what so-call Christian politics have wrought.
This is what so-call Christian politics have wrought.
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The birthers would create evidence to prove that Michael Jordan wasn't an American if he were elected president. Black people can't have power in their world.
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Good Morning Charles,
Whoa! Intense stuff. One can read into the poll whatever they wish. It does nothing for me. I dismissed the "birthers" during the campaign assuming the Obama team vetted Obama properly. Yes, the "birthers" remind me of the JFK assassination conspiracy theorists. They are paranoid and will never be convinced (BTW, I read a piece last week on a group that denies man ever set foot on the moon! And, don't forget the Flat Earthers). No doubt some are racist. Like David Paul Kuhn said "why are they broaching the subject now" when Obama is nearing seven months into his Presidency?
I didn't vote for Obama. But, he is my (our) President and most certainly is American. I can serve him if need be. The "birthers" are merely ranters. All sides of the political equation have them.
Whoa! Intense stuff. One can read into the poll whatever they wish. It does nothing for me. I dismissed the "birthers" during the campaign assuming the Obama team vetted Obama properly. Yes, the "birthers" remind me of the JFK assassination conspiracy theorists. They are paranoid and will never be convinced (BTW, I read a piece last week on a group that denies man ever set foot on the moon! And, don't forget the Flat Earthers). No doubt some are racist. Like David Paul Kuhn said "why are they broaching the subject now" when Obama is nearing seven months into his Presidency?
I didn't vote for Obama. But, he is my (our) President and most certainly is American. I can serve him if need be. The "birthers" are merely ranters. All sides of the political equation have them.
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I think the most telling thing to come to light about all of this was last week's news that McCain looked into this issue, but decided it wasn't worth pursuing. Don't you think he would have raised holy hell about it if there was anything to be gained from it?
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Great post.
As Charles notes: Everyone knows that John McCain's right to run for the highest political office in this country was on even more rocky ground than Obama's (he was not born American soil).
I wish that same poll had asked those Republicans whether they believe John McCain was born in the United States.
As Charles notes: Everyone knows that John McCain's right to run for the highest political office in this country was on even more rocky ground than Obama's (he was not born American soil).
I wish that same poll had asked those Republicans whether they believe John McCain was born in the United States.
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Obama might as well be an extra-terrestrial as far as Republicans are concerned. Just the fact that he can speak in complete sentences is proof enough for them.
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Race has definitely tinged this sentiment. But if you look back to the Clinton years, they were relentless in trying to bring him down too. Rush was on television every night. Race adds a frightening dimension for them, but the bottom line is that the far right throws everything it has at any Democrat who has the keys to 1600. Whitewater. Travelgate. They salivated when they finally had the Monica story - and took it all the way to impeachment. Why would they be easier on a black man in the White House? They are apoplectic about this and don't know what else to do with themselves. I just hope Obama doesn't do anything to give them a real cause, like Bill handed them Lewinsky.
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and among the 60-plus crowd - presumably because seniors can't log on to the Internet
This makes me as sad as anything about the future. As we get older we will no longer be able to log into the Internet nor surf the web. I kind of like it so I am certainly going to miss being able to do it in my old age.
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Southerners are the least educated and most racist. If you want reason and logic ,abandon all hope of that from the south. But this does explain why they vote Republican.
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No, seniors can log on to the Internet; they just don't know what to do with it. So they get those urban myth email forwards, take them as gospel, and meanwhile haven't even heard of Snopes.
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The thing about the birthers not believing the evidence that Obama was born in the USA is the same thing about them believing in the Bible despite its flaws: Faith.
They've been fighting reason and logic their entire lives to cling to a belief. They believe the Bible is the literal word of God. They believe in a giant space daddy above who is all powerful. They believe the Earth is 5000 years old. No evidence on the contrary can dissuade them.
They also believe this black guy with a funny name was born in Africa. They believe that because his father was African he must be too. They believe that this man who wants to take away their guns, force universal healthcare on them, has ruined the economy, and wants socialism isn't American, at least not as they see it. No evidence on the contrary can dissuade them.
Denial is a powerful force.
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I happen to have the displeasure of knowing one of these "birther" types. And, as he stated to me, that even if a birth certificate was produced, he still wouldn't believe it was real. Because, as he put it to me, "a birth certificate can still be forged."
How does one argue with such stupidity?? I'm at a loss.
How does one argue with such stupidity?? I'm at a loss.
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Who cares what those unpatriotic Talibangelists think about our President?
I mean, they're almost all Traitors anyway.
I mean, they're almost all Traitors anyway.
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