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Terry Miller 1
It certainly isn't new. The French house artists have been doing it since the late 90's...
Posted by Terry Miller on July 30, 2010 at 9:53 PM · Report this
Jason Baxter 2
Right! Part of my point. The use of it now is so exaggerated and deliberate.
Posted by Jason Baxter on July 30, 2010 at 10:11 PM · Report this
Sometimes it's just aggressive application of multiband compression at the mastering stage. So i think it's as much a product of the loudness wars that's especially noticeable when you have sparse drum patterns with synth pads.
Posted by Kevin Erickson on July 31, 2010 at 12:20 AM · Report this
ryjan 4
your about two years too late, the side chain compression came before the auto tune........the real shit is the side chained gate.... that's the magic....Gate a synth pad off of a 16th note Hi-pattern, adjust the attack and release times accordingly
Posted by ryjan on July 31, 2010 at 2:41 AM · Report this
Would a side-chain gate be the thing that is present on the guitar at about 1:38 on the XX song "Fantasy"?
Posted by WOCKABOCKA on July 31, 2010 at 2:07 PM · Report this
i too have noticed the exaggerated compression in the "chill wave" acts... sometimes it seems like the only thing consistent with the genre. gives me a headache.
Posted by kdiddy on August 2, 2010 at 7:15 AM · Report this
blip 7
this is like clipping, yes? no? i *think* i know what you're talking about, but i can't imagine anyone would do that to their music on purpose. it sounds like hell.
Posted by blip on August 2, 2010 at 4:15 PM · Report this
For those of you who may not know what side-chain compression is, or how it is used....

(Most) Commonly in dance music (and other styles)... The audio signal from the kick will be used to turn down the volume of chosen sounds within a mix (so when the kick plays, sounds turn down and between each kick, sounds are turning up in volume. )

A device called a compressor is used to achieve this..

Side-chaining can not only create more room in an overall mix, but create a nice tight pumping effect.... so when the kick plays, its nice and clear because other sounds are quickly turning down.. and when the kicks not playing.. the other sounds turn up in volume.

Its is often used in much of todays dance music... as you may well know.

When side-chain compression is used to the extreme which tends to happen within poorly produced tracks it can create so much of a dynamic change within such a short period of time continuously that it wears the fuck out of your ears pretty quickly...


For many styles of well produced dance music a lot of side-chain compression and is needed to create the overall sound.

I know what you mean about how auto tune has being used.... started off very subtle... and now its commonly right in your face... same as side-chaining... however they are two completely different effects used for two completely purposes.

Maybe you will grow to like it....? But I agree.. I have defiantly heard a few things with way too much side chaining, but anything worth listening to has sounded fine to my ears.

When I first heard white noise being used in dance music it sounded really weird to me..... now it sounds right in place... We do adapt to different sounds.

Whatever you do... if your producing.. learn how to use a compressor before you start side-chain compressing sounds... its really easy to over do all this kinda stuff...

Personally when I side chain stuff I wouldn't tend to set the ratio any higher that 4:4:1
I usually set it to around 2:2:1...... I always start off at 1:4:1 so I don't over do it.
It all really does depend on the sound your processing, and the result you are trying to achieve..
The attack I never set much higher that 20 milliseconds.. The release can be as short as 40 milliseconds.. or as high as 160... really depends what sound you want to achieve.. and the tempo of your track.. As a rule.. i tend never to set the threshold any higher than around -40 db. For a more subtle effect... a threshold of around -18 db should be suitable.

If your using logic check out the Class A_R & FET circuits on the compressor for side-chaining.. their nice and responsive.

Phil, London

Posted by Bootz on September 21, 2010 at 7:40 PM · Report this
ok... people that talk about "side chain compression" are morons. so you go ahead and take your mix, or individual instrument and side chain it. you put a 8to1 ratio on the compressor. then you blend it back with the original. you mix them both 50% and 50%. if you knew anything, like anything at all about how dynamics work you would know you achieved the same thing as putting that compressor on the entire mix at a 4to1 ratio.
Posted by srsly?? on January 28, 2013 at 8:47 AM · Report this

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