Apr 10
Midhir commented on Gay Couple Makes Florist Choose Between Supporting Gay Rights or Getting Sued.
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May 9, 2012
Midhir commented on Anarchy Is
Boring.
I'm a little tired of the adage "The goal was to get people talking about it and now they are!"
Getting us to talk about it doesn't necessarily make this a victory. In fact, it might make it a defeat for the (ostensibly) well meaning vandals. How many people went and looked up Nike's labor practices as a result of this? How many investigated Wells Fargo's lack of scrupulous business practices?
Some? Hey, great for you guys.
But in comparison how many heard about what was going on, though something like: "What a bunch of jerks, running around and breaking crap. I hope they get tazed (bro) and hauled off like the criminals they are," and went on with their lives with a now sullied view of a movement they knew very little about?
Anarchy is not a viable method for a functional society. It has never worked historically and never will.
If they want to make a statement, they should leave their masks off and let themselves get arrested the next time they decide to smash stuff. Put a face to the cause and use the action to make an actual statement instead of this vague "things suck and we want it to be different!" kind of thing.
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Getting us to talk about it doesn't necessarily make this a victory. In fact, it might make it a defeat for the (ostensibly) well meaning vandals. How many people went and looked up Nike's labor practices as a result of this? How many investigated Wells Fargo's lack of scrupulous business practices?
Some? Hey, great for you guys.
But in comparison how many heard about what was going on, though something like: "What a bunch of jerks, running around and breaking crap. I hope they get tazed (bro) and hauled off like the criminals they are," and went on with their lives with a now sullied view of a movement they knew very little about?
Anarchy is not a viable method for a functional society. It has never worked historically and never will.
If they want to make a statement, they should leave their masks off and let themselves get arrested the next time they decide to smash stuff. Put a face to the cause and use the action to make an actual statement instead of this vague "things suck and we want it to be different!" kind of thing.
May 1, 2012
Midhir commented on Violence Erupts at May Day Protests, Mayor Issues Emergency Order on Weapons, Protests Continue.
People running around busting up businesses and cars while terrorizing people just trying to go about their lives are not protesters. They are criminals and vandals who need to be arrested. Please, news people, stop calling them what they aren't and start calling them what they are.
To the protesters (the legit ones who aren't into violence): please separate yourselves from these people. You are being associated with them and whatever point you wanted to make is being muddled by those who would believe that breaking things can solve problems. They're doing it in the name of "stirring up a national discourse" which would be funny if they didn't seriously believe it's true. You don't want to be a part of that kind of sick joke.
To the deluded who think this violence will somehow *not* alienate you from the vast majority of society and instead bring people together to support your cause:
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To the protesters (the legit ones who aren't into violence): please separate yourselves from these people. You are being associated with them and whatever point you wanted to make is being muddled by those who would believe that breaking things can solve problems. They're doing it in the name of "stirring up a national discourse" which would be funny if they didn't seriously believe it's true. You don't want to be a part of that kind of sick joke.
To the deluded who think this violence will somehow *not* alienate you from the vast majority of society and instead bring people together to support your cause:
.
.
.
.
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If I were a part of the couple in question I wouldn't want them supplying anything for my wedding. I'm a bit surprised they continued using them during the last 9 years (unless they were unaware). Yes, I realize they aren't suing the florist directly. The state is doing it on their (and others') behalf. Further to that point, though, let's say they get sued and after we (taxpayers and the florists) all end up spending a ton of money they wind up being forced to provide the service. Are any gay couples honestly going to give these people their money in the future? I sure hope not.
In any case, it certainly could have been said that the florist has the right to refuse service for a number of completely legit reasons... but they kinda screwed that up with stating *why* exactly they couldn't meet the couple's needs. If the florist really wanted to stay clear of this mess they could have simply stated something like "I'm sorry, we're absolutely swamped during that time and I don't think we could provide you with good service. I could recommend this other company who could help you out though."
Even if there was a suit over that it would be incredibly hard to prove their intentions.