Nov 23
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
23: Whether or not those women are "attractive" has nothing to do with whether or not they're healthy. A large woman can be as well groomed and fashionable as possible, but her arteries still have a higher chance of being clogged.
It's really simple, guys: if someone is large despite having a healthy diet and exercise routine, then fine; they're just naturally large and probably have nothing to worry about. If someone is large because they eat fatty foods and get very little exercise, then they are likely going to have health issues down the line.
Because the vast majority of obese people are obese due to poor health habits, we get these very REAL statistical links between obesity and poor health. Denying the links between unhealthy habits, obesity, and poor health does not cause such links to cease to exist, nor does it do any good at all for the self-esteem of obese people. Exaggerating the portion of "obese" people who are healthy or whose obesity is due to chronic medical conditions rather than unhealthy habits is dishonest and, once again, doesn't change the reality that poor health habits will affect your health. Focusing on whether or not an obese person can be found attractive by however many people is absolutely irrelevant.
The fact remains that, attractive or not, the majority of obese people are at serious risk and need to know it. If someone wants to take those risks because they feel attractive enough already or because health and longevity aren't as important to them as their pleasures, then fine; they get to make that choice. But it has to be an informed choice where they realize what their risks are. It can't be based on deceptive denial that there is a definite link between eating fatty foods, lacking exercise, being obese, and developing related health problems.
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It's really simple, guys: if someone is large despite having a healthy diet and exercise routine, then fine; they're just naturally large and probably have nothing to worry about. If someone is large because they eat fatty foods and get very little exercise, then they are likely going to have health issues down the line.
Because the vast majority of obese people are obese due to poor health habits, we get these very REAL statistical links between obesity and poor health. Denying the links between unhealthy habits, obesity, and poor health does not cause such links to cease to exist, nor does it do any good at all for the self-esteem of obese people. Exaggerating the portion of "obese" people who are healthy or whose obesity is due to chronic medical conditions rather than unhealthy habits is dishonest and, once again, doesn't change the reality that poor health habits will affect your health. Focusing on whether or not an obese person can be found attractive by however many people is absolutely irrelevant.
The fact remains that, attractive or not, the majority of obese people are at serious risk and need to know it. If someone wants to take those risks because they feel attractive enough already or because health and longevity aren't as important to them as their pleasures, then fine; they get to make that choice. But it has to be an informed choice where they realize what their risks are. It can't be based on deceptive denial that there is a definite link between eating fatty foods, lacking exercise, being obese, and developing related health problems.
Nov 18
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
55: The first article is a fat acceptance person accusing the medical community of being anti-fat. The second is an article about the health care costs (which can serve as a measurement of health problems) caused by obesity. It's pointing out the tendency of the fat acceptance movement to defend actual unhealthy obesity rather than defending the notion that being heavy is okay AS LONG AS YOU'RE HEALTHY. They're forgetting the "healthy" part.
This does nothing to counter the actual belief that being heavy and healthy is okay.
This does nothing to counter the actual belief that being heavy and healthy is okay.
Nov 18
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
46: When you take taxes, bills, and premiums into account, our health care system is one of the most expensive per capita on the planet, as it is right now (look it up). There is a long list of countries where nobody is denied health care, yet the cost per person is less. In other words, denying people health care (or rationing health care based on wealth) doesn't save money. Just because you're paying money through something called "premiums" or "bills" rather than something called "taxes" doesn't mean that you're magically not paying real money. You're already paying for someone else's health care. The difference is that, right now, you're also paying for someone else's corporate salary and heftier administrative costs.
That whole paragraph in my last post about "accommodating reality" in your beliefs? It doesn't just apply to the fat acceptance movement. It applies to anti-health teabaggers also.
That whole paragraph in my last post about "accommodating reality" in your beliefs? It doesn't just apply to the fat acceptance movement. It applies to anti-health teabaggers also.
Nov 18
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
Bonefish commented on Health at Every Size.
Nobody here has argued that obesity is the same thing as "not being thin." Yes, some people are healthy with a little extra padding, some are healthy with a six-pack, etc etc. Nobody, however, is healthy if they're full-blown obese. Acknowledging that isn't "anti-fat;" it's just realistic. The health effects of obesity are real whether it hurts anyone's feelings or not.
Take smoking, for instance. My belief that smoking causes lung cancer isn't based on a hatred of smokers. It's based on the fact that there is a traceable and statistically significant link between smoking and the occurrence of lung cancer. No matter how awesome and wonderful my smoking friends are, that isn't going to become untrue.
Advertising agencies may be guilty of being unfairly biased against larger people; the medical community, however, is not. It's their responsibility to report facts as they discover them. When they find evidence that obesity leads to diabetes, or heart disease, or skeletomuscular problems, they can't just bury their heads in the sand because the fat acceptance movement won't like those facts. It's the fat acceptance movement's job, rather, to adjust their worldview to accommodate facts. Maybe focus on the idea that there's nothing wrong with being large and HEALTHY (when that's the case) rather than trying to insist that there's no such thing as large and unhealthy. The latter is dishonest and irresponsible.
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Take smoking, for instance. My belief that smoking causes lung cancer isn't based on a hatred of smokers. It's based on the fact that there is a traceable and statistically significant link between smoking and the occurrence of lung cancer. No matter how awesome and wonderful my smoking friends are, that isn't going to become untrue.
Advertising agencies may be guilty of being unfairly biased against larger people; the medical community, however, is not. It's their responsibility to report facts as they discover them. When they find evidence that obesity leads to diabetes, or heart disease, or skeletomuscular problems, they can't just bury their heads in the sand because the fat acceptance movement won't like those facts. It's the fat acceptance movement's job, rather, to adjust their worldview to accommodate facts. Maybe focus on the idea that there's nothing wrong with being large and HEALTHY (when that's the case) rather than trying to insist that there's no such thing as large and unhealthy. The latter is dishonest and irresponsible.
Nov 16
Bonefish commented on Dick Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012?.
Bonefish commented on Dick Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012?.
I'm not rationalizing his bow; I'm saying it's meaningless (assuming you're talking about me there). I'd be rationalizing if I tried to argue that the bow was necessary. I'm merely arguing that it's insignificant and not nearly worth the shitstorm it caused (I scoffed a little when I saw it, and that's about the extent of what everyone else should have done).
Nov 16
Bonefish commented on Dick Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012?.
Bonefish commented on Dick Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012?.
41: A bow is pretty meaningless, full or half. Obama bows to the Saudi king, and everyone shits themselves. The Bush family HANDS OVER a pretty fucking significant portion of our economy to the Saudis, and nobody gives two shits as long as he does it while doing that stupid macho fake-cowboy strut of his.
I know image is important and all, but we shouldn't have gotten to a point where a bow at the beginning of a meeting is more important than the negotiations of the meeting itself. If Obama sells out to a foreign leader, the problem will have nothing to do with a fucking bow. It would be with weak negotiations AFTER the bow. The fact that our country got its panties in a twist over this bow says more about our weird need for fake machismo in everything we do than it does about what actually will and won't affect negotiation. The Saudis themselves probably would have forgotten all about it if there weren't all these American headlines about "OBAMA BOWS TO NONCHRISTIAN WORLD LEADER"
I know image is important and all, but we shouldn't have gotten to a point where a bow at the beginning of a meeting is more important than the negotiations of the meeting itself. If Obama sells out to a foreign leader, the problem will have nothing to do with a fucking bow. It would be with weak negotiations AFTER the bow. The fact that our country got its panties in a twist over this bow says more about our weird need for fake machismo in everything we do than it does about what actually will and won't affect negotiation. The Saudis themselves probably would have forgotten all about it if there weren't all these American headlines about "OBAMA BOWS TO NONCHRISTIAN WORLD LEADER"
Nov 9
Bonefish commented on Learning The Lessons From Maine.
Bonefish commented on Learning The Lessons From Maine.
That was a horrible impression of Maggie Gallagher. She needs at least 5 more chins.
Nov 3
Bonefish commented on Dear Science.
Bonefish commented on Dear Science.
I attended a lecture about how the point where scientists decide that something is "statistically significant" is arbitrary, and doesn't necessarily mirror reality. The problems the guy brought up were similar to those that #1 brought up, but he went further to suggest that even some studies that turn out "statistically insignificant" could still be more accurate than studies whose numbers are considered significant.
Nov 1
Bonefish commented on Someone Should Drop a House On Him.
Bonefish commented on Someone Should Drop a House On Him.
21: Rick santorum has the perfect face for punching. It's something about that thin-lipped smirk of his. And it's not even completely connected to his politics; even if I agreed with his every word, I'd still feel a basic need to punch him in the mouth. He's just got a very punchable face. What can I say?
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Also, going to the gym gives you immunity to STIs. The viruses and bacteria will see your biceps and get so intimidated that they'll swim right back into the other guy.
What a fuckwit.