in the past few hours
Eva Hopkins commented on
Savage Love.
Dan, you handled WSN with compassion & wisdom. She seems like in a way, she's torn between moving on, & still kind of being the same person as before. I'm glad she wrote to you, & I hope the other commenters are more like everyone else, except #1. WSN, *if* you ignored Dan's advice & are reading the comments anyhow: move on, woman! It's time, & you can do it.
LW #2, PUNT: You have hit the wife jackpot!
Dan, I have to be short & boring this week. First of all, 'cause I have such bad strep my head is shaped like a lopsided mushed up claymation character.
Second, your advice was so perfect I've nothing substantial to add.
Thirdly, the other Sloggers haven't yanked my chain, yet. :D
8:09 PM yesterday
Eva Hopkins commented on
It's Spring! Who's Ready for Street Harassment?.
I personally feel that catcalling some random dude is kinda rude. I've never done it. (BTW, am bi, have never catcalled a woman either.) It's not classy.
I don't think that women should get a free pass on rude street behavior. But the fact is, most men aren't gonna have the same experience if catcalling happens to them. Your *average* sized man is gonna have a ton of physical power & size over your *average* sized woman. The power dynamic is very skewed. There's not the same implicit issues of control or physical violence maybe happening.
I know most of my guy pals understand this, as I don't hang out w/ too many knuckle-draggers. But it's disappointing to see how stubborn someone can be when hanging onto their perceptions, inflexible from the anecdotes & input of *how many* different women..? Y'know, women? The ones this happens to, all the time?
May 17
Eva Hopkins commented on
It's Spring! Who's Ready for Street Harassment?.
I wish I wasn't a feminist. I wish I could just be a humanist, which is primarily what I consider myself..someone who wants everyone to be treated fairly & equally.
Unfortunately, I'm still a feminist. For many reasons, but tonight's is - because we're now having a conversation in which pretty much all of the women (I think there was 2 exceptions) are trying to explain to one (or one-&-a-half, if you count Seattlebl- I mean, Stranger's Worst Nightmare - I mean UnBrainwashed) men what harassment is. (The explaining has also been helped by folks whose gender isn't clear from their handle, & Matt from Denver & a couple other guy types. Thx, dudes.) Sorry for the points I'm repeating, that others have made...
I was the first in my class to get breasts. & just about the moment it happened, in 5th grade, guys (usually much older back then) started saying creepy, creepy shit to me. I lived in a urban-edged suburban environment, & walked to & from school. This whole new way of thinking evolved - how to look angry enough & not respond to creeps who would pull up alongside in their car; how to lie just enough to adults who made lewd suggestions, to get away from them; at what point when walking home alone did I have to shift to the other side of the street, when some guy was approaching me on the other side of the street.
As someone who loved running off to NYC to see bands/dance in my teens & early 20's, I've had tons of exposure to street people. It's always men who started random encounters on the street. There's a difference between someone saying "you look amazing" at a club, or initiating a conversation at a coffeehouse, & some person you DK saying "nice tits" or "nice ass" muttering to a stranger. One's brain immediately goes into a kind of fight or flight overdrive. There's an immediate assessment of the environment for escape options.
The "smile" guy is a particular type. They can be benign, but I've never seen a random man, on the street, say to another random man, on the street - hey, smile, handsome. I'm not talking about Pride parades, or where guys are cruising other guys - all bets are kinda off there (I've observed). But in a city, two strange men passing each other on the sidewalk- never seen it happen. The last Smile Guy I encountered followed me for almost a whole block. Scary. I finally yelled super loud at him & he called me a crazy bitch as he scuttled away.
The man who says to a random woman, hey there, smile! is ordering her to change her face to please him. The reason it's so freaking hard for a man to understand what that feels like (not that I'd expect anyone who helpfully labels themselves a misanthrope to really do anything but troll) is because - as many others have said before me - the power dynamic between two men isn't the same as that between an average man & an average woman.
(Anti-troll disclaimer bit: yes, men get harassed too; yes, men also suffer from partner abuse, etc. This isn't about them. I'm acknowledging it before someone else says it, again. The majority of street harassment is by men, to women.)
From the moment that comment leaves a man's mouth & hits the woman's ears, the threat level is instigated. Giving back some sass is unwise when someone is sometimes half again to double or more your size. Yeah, I've done it - told someone would he talk like that to his mama, etc - but the point is, *I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO*. Nor should any of the many women who've patiently explained above why this is a problem. We shouldn't *HAVE TO THINK THIS WAY*, but we do. Because women never know how short the time is between "nice tits" & someone trying to grab them, or hurt them, etc.
Guys, almost every single woman you know has had to think this way at some point in their lives. Some women have to deal with being groped & such on their commute everyday, adding a higher percentage of fear & anxiety to their everyday lives. Is that okay by you? Or d'ya maybe not want to acknowledge it's a problem because you want to keep that dynamic just the way it is..?
The basic attitude of - women should just "nut up" & take it - disgusting. How about people on the street should "nut up" & learn some freaking manners & respect for their fellow humans?
Was really hopeful that this wouldn't devolve into the usual camps that happened the last time Ms. Cienna posted about the Smile Guy. Alas.
As someone who's a LGBT activist, lemme just end this by saying how disappointing it is, seeing someone whose rights I have championed, though IDK them, being so freaking blind to the rights of others.
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May 13
Eva Hopkins commented on
I'm Fine, You Guys, I'm Fine.
@3 IDK about Dan's temples, but I got a pair of Bride of Frankenstein style white stripes when I was 18. :/
But hey! I'm only 34! Yay.
Kinda never understood the whole lying about yer age, thing. My gay boyfriends begged me to start rolling back some years when I turned 30, because my aging meant they were aging too.
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May 10
Eva Hopkins is just back from a trip to California. The parts she visited were too shiny & sunny for her.
Apr 10
Eva Hopkins commented on
Savage Love.
RE: LW #2, BIB: I thought I was with "the one" at 22. Now older, I feel that's way too young to settle down. Something to think about..there could be a lotta oats yer to sow..? Maybe a discussion about some making-out level monogamishness, for funsies?
Kinda along the lines of what EricaP was saying, too, in terms of feeling that way, suddenly. Like you can see the whole vanilla future & it's too much, it irritates & overwhelms with its sameness.
Otherwise agree w/ Dan 100%. Time to shake things up & shift focus.
Apr 10
Eva Hopkins commented on
Savage Love.
RE: LW #1, DGW: I agree w/ wingedkat @ 8 - especially the bit about finding a church the two of them can go to in common. I'm not gonna get into the whole faithful vs. atheists squabble: these are two Christians, & the LW didn't seem to have a crisis of faith itself, just his BF's branch of organized religion. Not the same thing. The should agree to find a more accepting community that makes them both feel welcome. & if the BF isn't ready to leave his (as Bishop Robinson correctly called it, I think) internalized homophobia/self-loathing behind him, then DGW should move on. He sounds like he knows what to do, here, & was just writing for the nudge needed to make a change. :)
LW #2, PUNT: You have hit the wife jackpot!
Dan, I have to be short & boring this week. First of all, 'cause I have such bad strep my head is shaped like a lopsided mushed up claymation character.
Second, your advice was so perfect I've nothing substantial to add.
Thirdly, the other Sloggers haven't yanked my chain, yet. :D