N8
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Nov 24, 2015 N8 commented on There's a Rumor Floating Around the Internet About an Upcoming White Power Rally in Ballard. We're Checking It Out..
@26 Although those results can't be topped, my favorite is a guy live-scoring assholes going to a rally with oompa loompa music from his sousaphone; YouTube vid called "KKK marchers going to Rally", highly-recommended viewing
Aug 15, 2015 N8 commented on In Her Own Words: The Political Beliefs of the Protester Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders.
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re "numerous false assumptions" I've tried to clarify some assumptions myself. If you think I've made some, please correct me - I'm trying to learn more about the situation.

re "Funny how you do not even address the constant finger in the face, screaming and chest bumping. The girls were disrespectful throughout and straight up threatening at other points." Yeah, I'm not arguing they weren't "rude" or "disrespectful" - that's how many protests go. Part of their point is that being polite hasn't ever gotten them anywhere.

re threats: They did threaten to shut the event down, which gave them leverage during the protest; they were threatened with PHYSICAL VIOLENCE. Do those balance-out to you?
Aug 14, 2015 N8 commented on In Her Own Words: The Political Beliefs of the Protester Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders.
@108 I had to look into what that meant after hearing the TWIB interview too, but "white gaze" ≠ "white people looking" at her.
Aug 14, 2015 N8 commented on In Her Own Words: The Political Beliefs of the Protester Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders.
@103 "I've read the girls' subsequent interviews and social media posts." Why did you read them if you weren't looking to understand their intentions or what they meant?

re "I have my own life and challenges. I know that you, Johnson and her ilk do not care or cannot imagine what those challenges may be." Likewise. I hope your challenges become less challenging. Assuming you're white (which inherently means less challenges in this country), I suspect you're correct that Johnson doesn't care to hear about your problems.

re "that we should all carve out more space in our lives to dedicate to someone that labels people "white supremist" without ever speaking to any of them." She actually was speaking to them/you; many in attendance heckled her and yelled for her to be tazed. If that's the reaction coming from a supposedly progressive crowd while she's trying to assert her value as a human, I sympathazie with her viewpoint. When I heard her explanation on the TWIB interview, it made me stop and think new things I hadn't thought before.

But I see a problem - you cannot get past the fact she used the words "racist" or "white supremacist". You simply hear those words and turn-off. Yes indeed, still lots of learning to do.
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Aug 14, 2015 N8 commented on In Her Own Words: The Political Beliefs of the Protester Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders.
@97 Why do you believe 'the problem is falsely labeling people "white supremacists"'?

In the TWIB interview, Johnson asserted a problem is people valuing their own feelings over the lives of other people, which seems really hard to argue with.

Can you hep me understand why it's not okay for Johnson to have a negative emotional reaction from the threats of physical violence from multiple voices in the supposedly progressive crowd, and why it is okay for individuals in the crowd to have negative emotional reactions at simply the perception of subsequently being called racist?
Aug 14, 2015 N8 commented on In Her Own Words: The Political Beliefs of the Protester Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders.
@96, re 'None of us are under any obligation to "try to understand what she really means".' Of course not, but first learning about what you're talking before weighing-in leads to a much richer discussion. Saying you're too busy to even try to understand the intent of their action, though you do have time to read the Slog and comments, then post on the subject yourself multiple times - hopefully you can reprioritize.

re "These girls do not deserve any more respect or understanding than anyone else." Agreed. The movement is about equal treatment, not preferential treatment.

re "shit all over Sanders and the organizers of the event." Sometimes that's the point of protests. It's unfortunate this happened at a good, important event. They obviously weren't protesting SS, Medicare, and Medicaid; they were there because of the access to Sanders. The discussions they've provoked needed to happen.

I'm certainly not saying it was a perfect protest, or that there aren't some weird things about the whole thing, or that I agree with all their language. The whole "Bow down" thing - I don't understand that; their suspect link with "official BLM Seattle" (whatever that is) still confuses me. But those details aren't very important and seem like a waste of energy at this point; these protestors aren't the ones running for office.
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Aug 13, 2015 N8 commented on In Her Own Words: The Political Beliefs of the Protester Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders.
Good recap, except this is taken out of context: "I would say that anybody who hears me say that, and thinks about their feelings first, is a white supremacist." The THAT she's talking about is very important; hopefully The Stranger adds that context to the article. I recommend listening to the interview.

To anyone uncomfortable with her saying this, remember she's a self-labeled extremest. She's delivering the message in a rough package, and once we get past our initial reflex to defend ourselves, we'll be able to try to understand what she actually means. What she's saying is that (black) lives matter more than (white) feelings, and if you think about your feelings before lives, you're part of the problem.
Oct 23, 2013 N8 commented on Yeezus' Sermon On The Mount.
I was there, and this is a great review. My favorite part: "...attempting a Double Dragon-esque spin-kick..."

I get sad thinking about this show as a rap/music concert, but when I think about it more as a theater production it feels better.
Oct 2, 2013 N8 commented on What Drug is This Guy On?.
Not sure - do you have any helpful blues clues to assist our guessing?