Mar 5, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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Of course, the NY Times is not the "source".
They are reporting from "the source".
And, yes, the source is the holocaust museum.
But, to fairly judge the "source" one would need to study the material and not simply dismiss it without even looking at it.
Even if one considers the source questionable, it still could contain accurate information, so it is that"information" which one needs to examine.
As a wise man once said:
"Information that is consistent with our pre-existing beliefs is often accepted at face value, whereas evidence that contradicts them is critically scrutinized and discounted. Our beliefs may thus be less responsive than they should to the implications of new information”

Mar 3, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
Nazi"death camp" research just in:
42,500 sites:
" Researchers have now cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign from 1933 to 1945.

The figure is so staggering that even Holocaust scholars had to make sure they had heard it correctly when the lead researchers previewed their findings at an academic forum in late January at the German Historical Institute in Washington

The documented camps include not only “killing centers” but also thousands of forced labor camps, where prisoners manufactured war supplies; prisoner-of-war camps; sites euphemistically named “care” centers, where pregnant women were forced to have abortions or their babies were killed after birth; and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military personnel.

Auschwitz and a handful of other concentration camps have come to symbolize the Nazi killing machine in the public consciousness. Likewise, the Nazi system for imprisoning Jewish families in hometown ghettos has become associated with a single site — the Warsaw Ghetto, famous for the 1943 uprising. But these sites, infamous though they are, represent only a minuscule fraction of the entire German network, the new research makes painfully clear."

Here is the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday…
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Mar 2, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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As far as I know no southern whites were "dispossessed" of anything as a result of the civil rights movement.
The word means "to cause someone to lose something they possess or own", such as property.
So I do not understand what you are referring to.

And I am not a fan of any "ism" regardless of who inspired it.
By the way, Christianity was inspired by a "jew".
Do you also think Christianity is "detrimental to a white society"?

Mar 2, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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You are again making an unwarranted assumption.
None of the people I met or worked with were "marching or agitating".
The only thing we were doing was helping people to register to vote.
And nobody I knew or met were "communists" or even cared about "communism" or its economic theories.
As I recall, the "right to vote" is an American theory.
Apparently you equate the "right to vote" with "dispossessing southern whites"?

You were also fighting Vietnamese in Vietnam. And you, by definition, were fighting against the economic theory expounded by Marx and Engles. They defined "communism", not those latecomers like Stalin or Mao.
Both of them also killed communists in order to achieve political power.
As I recall Marx and Engels didn't kill anybody.
If you leave Marx and Engels out of your analysis of "communism" you are making a huge mistake.
Why do you think they called it "communism" if it was not an economic theory? "Communism" means COMMON ownership or the means of production, that was what it was all about!

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Feb 22, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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Yes, like Capitalism, Communism is an economic system.
And Karl Marx wrote about it.
Take a look, it is ALL about "economics", nothing else at all.
I am surprised you don't know that but it seems most people don't know that.
What else does Marx write about?

And, if you bother to read this, the fundamental principle of communism is "state ownership of the means of production".
That is number one.
You might try going to the source.

When people were getting killed the issue was always political POWER, not economics, two different things. Stalin and Mao were battling for political power. Capitalists have killed people too for the same reason.

As for the Church Committee, you should read the material yourself to decide if it is credible.
You seem prepared to deem it not credible without reading it.
Not all congressional investigations are whitewashes, although the ones you refer to sure appear to be.
To know, one must study their procedure and documents.
But I think one can not make such a judgment without at least reading their material.
The Church Committee based its findings on fbi materials and the fbi spent a lot of time on MLK.
As to why the fbi sealed its records my guess is that they want to cover up their own misdeeds, that's the usual reason.

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Feb 21, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
Dear 239.
Your quote does not resemble the Civil Rights movement at all. And I was there in the 60's.
It was the Constitution of the United States that motivated everybody I knew, not "communism".
Nobody cared about "communism" or the state ownership of the means of production, all that crap!

The American Constitution was our highest calling and our guiding light.
I was in Mississippi in the 60's and everybody I knew in the civil rights movement was motivated by principles found in The Constitution.
It was American law that was the primary motivation.
And MLK spoke frequently about the US Constitution as the guiding light, also the Emancipation Proclamation, and the Declaration of Independence, "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness", "all men are created equal", etc, read his speeches, it is all about the US Constitution and US principles:

http://usconstitution.com/speeches/marti…

I, and others, were in Mississippi to help people register to VOTE, to exercise their constitutional rights, and some of our fellow "white people " were trying to kill us, in fact they did kill some of us. We were no there to advocate "communism " or to divide people.
You accuse the civil rights movement of "intensifying racial strife"? Apparently you do not know how much strife there already was!

At that time black people could and did get beaten or killed for simply trying to vote.
The local "authorities" were brutal, local cops could rape young black girls and beat and intimidate anybody without any fear of legal consequence.
I'd call that "racial strife"!

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Feb 21, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
234 "seeking reality"
Your link, once again, is to documents relating to soviet espionage going back to WW2, there is no reference there to MLK, Jr.
Your credibility again suffers!
Don't you have anything more recent than reports of WW2 espionage and J Edgars rambling speculation?

Here is my source :

In 1976 the congressional Church Committee reviewed FBI documents and reported that the FBI had concluded there was "NO EVIDENCE" of ANY communist affiliation for King or the SCLC.
That was the conclusion of the FBI, Hoovers own.

Here is my reference.
"Final Report of the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities. United States Senate, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, April 26 (legislative day, April 14), 1976. [AKA "Church Committee Report"]. Archived on COINTELPRO sources website. Transcription and HTML by Paul Wolf. Retrieved April 19, 2005.
Intelligence Activities and the Rights of Americans, Book II"

I dont think you or J Edgar understand that "communism" is fundamentally an economic system whereby the state owns the means of production, like in China.

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Feb 20, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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You call yourself "seeking reality" but you give me a phony reference? Here is an example:

You wrote in 225," Martin Luther King was a communist and so was Rosa Parks. Read the Verona Project documents."
I just read them, and there is no reference at all to MLK or to Rosa Parks because the Verona project documents only relate to events in WW2 prior to 1945. There is nothing at all in there about these people who would have been children then
Also the Verona Documents have been widely discredited.
And you, "seeking reality", discredit yourself by giving me such a phony reference that has nothing to do with MLK and only wastes my time.
The link here covers the Verona Documents:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_proj…

"By 1976 the FBI had acknowledged that it had NOT obtained any evidence that King himself or the SCLC were actually involved with any communist organizations.[185]"This was after a lengthy and detailed investigation.

MLK wrote and spoke extensively and there is not one thing he said or wrote that suggested he supported "communism" and the state ownership of the means of production.
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Feb 20, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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Apparently you didnt read my 219 link to the British National Archives that show 12 million slaves going through the London port alone prior to 1810.
It also notes that 5 million went out of Portugal, and that there were many other european shipping ports besides these two.
If use this link you can read all about it;
This link works for me.
And the British Customs kept good records since they were taxing the slave trade.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/recor…
Feb 19, 2013 caear commented on Charles Krafft Is a White Nationalist Who Believes the Holocaust Is a Deliberately Exaggerated Myth.
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This is direct from the British National Archives, found here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/recor…

It explains the detailed records kept and confirms the 12 million figure I gave you.

"4. Records relating to transportation of slaves and goods

Ships involved in the colonial trade were first required to be registered in 1696. Registers survive from 1786 in BT 6/191-193 and BT 107 (indexes in BT 111). Only four volumes for Liverpool, 1739-1774, have survived for ships registered before 1786 because of a fire at Customs House. These registers are held by the Merseyside Maritime Museum.

Prior to clearing from a British port, the master first had to obtain a pass from the Admiralty. These licenses and those relating to travelling in convoy are in ADM 7. At the port, the master of the ship had to provide the collector of customs with a written list of the cargo to calculate duty. The details were written up in Port Books (E 190). Other records may have been collected at the various customs houses (the records of customs out ports are in CUST series), however many have been lost due to fires, riots and war. In addition to customs duty, between 1698 and 1713 British merchants involved in the Africa trade had to pay 10% tax on goods exported to Africa. This tax was levied to maintain the African Company's forts etc. The duty ledgers are in T 70/349-356.

Ships' captains maintained log books or journals which described details of voyages. These log books were the property of the ship owners and survive in local record offices. Very few have been found in The National Archives; those that have are the log books of Royal African Company ships in T 70.

The master also lodged a muster with the collector of customs on the ship's return, some of these can now be found in BT 98 (for example the muster of the Otter in BT 98/68 no 127). However, only those for Liverpool survive before 1807. Some musters and crew lists may survive in the archives of port towns and cities.

Information relating to goods imported to and exported from Africa can be found in the duty ledgers, accounts and correspondence of the African companies in T 70, especially among records of their forts, factories and settlements on the West Coast of Africa. Other papers can be found in the correspondence and registers of the Board of Customs (CUST 3 and CUST 17), the Board of Trade (CO 388 to CO 391), the Treasury (T 1), and in the Port Books (E 190)."
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