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Jun 30 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
@28 and yet there's still nothing being posted other than you whining about others not wanting to fund elective surgery, You cannot even offer a answer to my question of rather or not there are trans groups offering help financially other than to call me a homophobe. Since you are such an advocate for trans rights what steps have you taken to ensure they are covered other than getting on your soapbox here and arguing with me? I'm willing to bet none.
Jun 29 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
And just so you know ritalin is poison #25 so way to jump on board with paying for something because someone else says its good without truly understanding what's going on. All I want is someone to show me two things before I'll get on board, the first being a collective of people working to solve the lack of funding proactively through their actions and a true benefit to all of society. Lets be honest you're asking for charity for a select group.
Jun 29 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
Actually I'm not homophobic at all, I just fail to see why everyone should pay for one person's elective surgery,(being homophobic has nothing to do with trans issues fyi, they might benefit from separation actually as one is viewed as a psychological issue and another being a physical issue), and the ongoing costs associated with it, a cleft palette is a one time surgery without the ongoing costs of hormone treatment and such, also since most of the trans individuals I have encountered have unfortunately. been in triage due to domestic violence and not. suicide attempt,it brings up another question, are we. going to be responsible for surgery for trans individuals who get beat up and need surgery to maintain a positive self image as well? I have yet to see any indication that there is a national or collective trans advocacy group looking to fund individuals so I will continue to hold on to my belief that a very minor group does not deserve such vast resources earned by so many, if the need justified the want it would be, so far I have seen zero to that effect. Hell I'd even be willing to help a local trans advocacy group establish a trust to provide services for individuals that demonstrate the need for such services but I have yet to see anything other than demands for others tax dollars that could be used to benefit society as a whole. Nice try trying to paint me as a homophobe though, how many AIDS patients do you think those same funds could help?
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Jun 28 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
@18 you state that the costs to cover trans related health care in California is around .008 cents per person, now if the current population is around 37,700,000 that works out to only $301,600 dollars, and thats if everyone is paying, now since California has around 9% unemployment and you figure in children, the elderly and disabled not working I can't figure how you think that number is realistic or accurate, sounds more like a number you just want to be real, now the current population of Washington state is around 6,897,000 with a higher percentage of trans identifying individuals than California, so to say that the costs are less thsn pennies per person is either wishful thinking or flat out lying. Also since you think that allowing a natural born woman access to meds to ensure her endocrine system is working properly is descrimitory I have to say you don't actually understand theddebate, is giving a diabetic insulin also descrimitory? Thats a hormone that everyone dies without, much like a natural born woman could be on deaths door quickly if her system is not taken care of, your trans pal just has to deal with their own issues with body image.
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Jun 27 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
@ 18 I think it is you that has the lack of understanding of how health insurance works, traditionally insurance was used to cover catastrophic things like appendectomys and car wrecks that you wouldn't have the cash laying around to cover, now it has been expanded to cover life sustaining meds and programs that are offered for minimal costs to improve overall health, now the way that money is spent is decided by a plan administrator who must ensure that everyone that is paying into the plan is covered, now I did some research and feel comfortable saying the average cost of transition is between 90k-120k with ongoing costs such as therapy and hormone treatment rising along with everything else, now if that person is making a minimal contribution for basic coverage then thats all they are entitled to. If you look at things like Susan G. Komen or the lymphoma society they are groups of people affected by the same things that come together to work on a common problem to acquire funds to fix them, they also have lots of doctors and researchers and financial advisors that volunteer their services and do a good job of fundraising. I haven't been able to find a single example of a nation wide trans advocacy group that works collectively like that, just examples of trans groups asking for money for what is an elective surgery that does little to benefit anyone outside of the surgeon or patient.
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Jun 27 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
@ 18 we do bitch about that stuff to, again I see zero justification for forcing others to pay for someone to get an elective surgery, suicide only occurs by one own hand and shouldn't be used to make others feel guilty or responsible for another's care, ever notice how the American cancer society or the juvenile diabetes research foundation have collected private funds to help out with select individuals that cannot fund their own treatment, until I see something like that taking place within the trans community I can't help but think those that want to use public funds, rather than earn it, are not worthy of money from the public dole based on the promise of improved quality of living for someone else who is unhappy with a situation the rest of us had nothing to do with. I feel safe saying that this article has done zero to end any debate regarding the subject, show me some solid data that all of society will benefit and I'll hop on board but until then I say no.
Jun 26 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
@9 so if a proper reassignment costs x dollars and we start covering it but those same surgeries could help 10 children but those funds are no loner there, how is that just?if Everyone gets medical coverage but only 70% of us are paying for it we are simply not going to be able to afford every elective procedure that improves someone's self image, my sympathies go out to the individual s affected by gender dysphoria but simply being affected by it is not a good enough reason to simply give it away at the cost of others receiving less so one individual can receive more is not fair, how about we do something crazy like let people put money into a account for said surgery before being taxed or remove the taxes associated with the surgery? That never gets brought up, just more talk of why its just to make the general public pay for one single persons transition.
Jun 25 The Artful Dogger commented on Morning News: The Trans Issue Is Out! Also Stuff About $15, Sports News, Science News, and the Kind of Assholes Who Ban Cake.
Crazy idea here...don't want your kids eating cake...send a note to that effect to the school and let the littleones who stay active and healthy enjoy a treat in celebration.
Jun 25 The Artful Dogger commented on How to Stop the Stupid Debate About Taxpayer Dollars Funding "Sex Change" Surgeries.
So how many cleft palets or other physical problems would be solved with the same funds? You cannot fault people for being hesitant to fund something that will end up costing other people money or cut short funding for things that affect them. Why is one persons gender reassignment more worthy than anothers needs?
Jun 21 The Artful Dogger commented on On a Recently Unearthed Audio Tape, Hillary Clinton Brags About Defending an Alleged Child Rapist.
@ 53 your statement pretty much sums up why lawyers shouldn't hold public office, who cares if she's getting a real threat to the community off, I mean she's just doing her job.
 
 

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