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Jan 16 libertine commented on Inside the Debate Over Whether the Seattle Womxn's March Should Be Silent.
I can see the point behind wanting this protest to be silent. At certain times and in certain venues it can be quite powerful.

I am far from sold that this is one of those times or one of those venues. It also seems to be disenfranchising a significant portion of the march.

If my sisters feel their voice is being unnecessarily silenced, I have to side with them in the end.
Jan 16 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@20, the trans community is already at the bargaining table. I assure you, this community is keenly aware of the issue that comes from rejecting allies. But that table requires two to sit down before it. Dan mocks his need to sit down at that table, and this community is very wary of fair weather friends.

We should be coming together to fight common causes. Intersectionality is real and critical. Intersectionality is not an "I pat your back, you stab me in mine." situation though, and that is the treatment we feel we receive from Me. Savage. There is no give and take, two way relationship here. People are allowed to misgender with intent to harass on this very site, with their posts unmoderated for months of not years. As I mentioned before, Dan has never expressed serious contrition for his words, actions, or the responses of people he has personally emboldened. This is not the behavior of someone merely misunderstood, and I still stand behind my white moderate assertion.

Dan Savage does not walk your talk. If he did, this wouldn't be an issue. We'd love for him to walk your talk. It is kind of all we really want.
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Jan 15 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@16, that is.

I have finally made a mistake for you to capitalize on. Have fun.
Jan 15 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@14, it is clear I know a lot more about science than you. You are well named. Raindrop is a better and more challenging troll. Your diatribes are indeed red herrings, and not good ones, either.
Jan 15 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@13, apparently I need to be a little more clear. The gender binary theory has been disproven in science, be it with intersex individuals, transgender individuals or XXY and XYY mutations. All totalled, nonbinary and transgender people make up roughly 1.5 percent of the total population, likely more in the US, and likely more than the US average in Western Washington, due to our hate crimes legislation.

You honestly expect me to have the AG on speed dial, and then try a mike drop? You damage your own credibility more than I ever could. Please, by all means, keep going. It takes a few minutes to air cook popcorn.
Jan 15 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@10 mine is the fascist desire to control language? Surely you jest. You are the one actively denying settles science, using grammar and syntax to enforce a proven false ideology. Misgendering is misguided, yes. I am glad you can see the error of your ways.

Here is your link:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?…

As for prosecutions, the WSHRC and state DoJ are closed today, so they wouldn't respond to an email until Tuesday at the earliest. Also, your rhetoric is old and stale enough I see no reason to Google things for you any more than I feel like doing it for Wandering Stars.

Now seriously. Update your arguments for the 21st Century before you try to wade into this topic. Your repeated (and repeatedly destroyed) arguments make yourself and your proponents look bad at this point. And while it is amusing, I don't take pleasure in seeing the clueless flail about mindlessly.
Jan 15 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@8, you do realize that intentionally misgendering with intent to harass is a hate crime in this state, yes? According to the law, it is not I who is living the fantasy. But hey, I am sure if you try this in real life your court appointed attorney will kindly and patiently explain malicious harassment to you shortly before your trial.
Jan 14 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@6, at the risk of sounding argumentative, does the bad behavior of some justify the bad behavior of others? The transgender community tried to discuss these issues with Dan. Heck, we've recommended he just stay away from us and our issues. Many have volunteered to take transgender Savage Love questions off of his hands.

No, his reluctance do say anything other than "Lol. Sorry. Lol" does exactly suggest he is a white moderate who harbors these feelings. I see no ashes, sackcloth, or Mea Culpas coming from him.
Jan 14 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
@4, if you seriously have not seen or heard of this controversy, do the Google search. Dan cannot go more than about 3 years without saying something transphobic. There are entire lists, easily found online.

Mansplaining to transgender individuals in 2014, the subsequent additional mansplaining of which is still on this site (http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives…).

There's using transgender identities to mock and belittle others (http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives…). This resulted in Dan being glitterbombed in Oregon in 2011. At the bottom of this article is his "apology". http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives…

He has openly and repeatedly used terms like shemale to infantilize and dehumanize transgender individuals.

Or, you could just read this collation from roughly 3 years ago.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beyoungands…

All of this would have been clear to you if you had taken my advice and used Google. Every link I have used I pulled from that search. Why are you making me Google it for you?

Dan Savage is about as much of an ally as the Dickwolves over at Penny Arcade are. Both want to pat themselves on the back and say they have no problems with transgender individuals, but both also use vulgar, hate filled language when talking about them.

In the end, they come across as MLK's comfortable white moderates. Shallow understanding from people of goodwill and lukewarm acceptance is an excellent description of Mr. Savage's "support" of the transgender community.
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Jan 13 libertine commented on On the Blabbermouth Podcast: Cursing at Richard Spencer and Considering Golden Showers.
Dan, you are the one who pulls the wheels off the Left. A simple Google of the phrase "Dan Savage transphobic" reveals this pattern going back at least five years, with some poking around showing this pattern runs much deeper and longer than that.

Glass houses and stones, Dan. You're just poking holes in your own home.