Oct 2, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on When Parents Kill Their Gay Children.
The Magic Lemur commented on When Parents Kill Their Gay Children.
You should forward this to the person whining about you dogging Christians. Definitely fits "Tell them, not me."
Sep 18, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on God 1, Fat Daniel Baldwin ZEROOOOO!.
The Magic Lemur commented on God 1, Fat Daniel Baldwin ZEROOOOO!.
@19 the point is that there shouldn't be specific religious displays of any kind on government property. What you display on your private land is your business, but the government should maintain a benign agnosticism. Religion and government should not mix. You -are- missing the point, but rather than address that with valid argument, you called your accuser a pinhead. How intelligent of you.
Sep 11, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
@61 ...and part of our evolution. We evolved to be omnivores, eating meat and vegetables and fruit, because we evolved as foragers, and being flexible helped us. In addition, a high-protein diet (which is easier to get from meat, which is extremely high in protein) helped rapid brain development. Look in a bear's mouth and you'll find very similar teeth to ours, because ours are designed both to grind plant matter and shear flesh. I sometimes wish we evolved as pure carnivores, because then we wouldn't have stupid debates over the "natural" default human diet.
Anyhow.
I disagree that being vegan necessarily means being preachy, because ANY personal decision made on the grounds of ethics is deeming oneself "morally superior". We all deem ourselves morally correct until we decide/are convinced that our morals are wrong, and then we change them again. So that's a silly, pointless argument. But again, meat-eaters like me get defensive around vegans because it's a cause that has drawn and does draw pushy, vocal assholes who -do- morally equate my desire to eat a stake with child rape. Not every vegan goes through that phase, and the ones that do usually grow out of it. But the ones that get in our faces about how superior and ethical they are and how horrible we are in contrast ruin it for everyone.
You know, sort of like how not all Muslims are extremists, but the ones that strap bombs to themselves or murder cartoonists kind of ruin it for the good ones.
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Anyhow.
I disagree that being vegan necessarily means being preachy, because ANY personal decision made on the grounds of ethics is deeming oneself "morally superior". We all deem ourselves morally correct until we decide/are convinced that our morals are wrong, and then we change them again. So that's a silly, pointless argument. But again, meat-eaters like me get defensive around vegans because it's a cause that has drawn and does draw pushy, vocal assholes who -do- morally equate my desire to eat a stake with child rape. Not every vegan goes through that phase, and the ones that do usually grow out of it. But the ones that get in our faces about how superior and ethical they are and how horrible we are in contrast ruin it for everyone.
You know, sort of like how not all Muslims are extremists, but the ones that strap bombs to themselves or murder cartoonists kind of ruin it for the good ones.
Sep 9, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
@37 THat's what we want too, but vegans keep calling us murderers and screaming at us when we eat a steak. Again, don't tell us, tell the loud idiots that claim to speak for you.
Sep 9, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
@31: They tell them if they ask. They don't lie about it, they just don't mention it unless asked, so calm the fuck down. What amuses me is that they're so busy bragging about how great they are, they don't stop to notice they've violated their own principles. It's not like they're sneaking peanuts onto a pizza for someone with a peanut allergy, and I think you're overinflating the situation.
"I know people who have been vegetarian long enough that something like bacon fat would make them really sick. I know people who just plain have a sensitivity to certain proteins in pork or beef; again, this could make them really sick"
If that's the case, then it's their responsibility to ASK and CHECK on these things. Pizzas are greasy as a motherfucker. As a vegan, one should say "is that animal or vegetable fat in there?" It's NOT that hard, and if your friends who are sensitive to animal protein failed to check up on the food they were about to eat, then I wouldn't feel bad for them if they got sick from it.
"I know people who have been vegetarian long enough that something like bacon fat would make them really sick. I know people who just plain have a sensitivity to certain proteins in pork or beef; again, this could make them really sick"
If that's the case, then it's their responsibility to ASK and CHECK on these things. Pizzas are greasy as a motherfucker. As a vegan, one should say "is that animal or vegetable fat in there?" It's NOT that hard, and if your friends who are sensitive to animal protein failed to check up on the food they were about to eat, then I wouldn't feel bad for them if they got sick from it.
Sep 9, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
who loudly speak for your demographic, that is. I make no apologies for spelling errors; this laptop has lost at least four letter keys.
Sep 9, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
@21 That's perfectly reasonable. I think we tend to get defensive because so many vegetarians (like anyone who discovers something they believe to be profoundly right) go through a holier-than-thou phase where they get a few steps away from assaulting meat-eaters (I did this with atheism as a teenager). As Dan suggests to progressive Christians, tell the ones who loudly peak for your demographic, not us. I truly respect your decision, for whatever reason, to be a vegetarian or a vegan. But you have to admit that the veggie community, particularly vegans, make a habit of being intensely hostile to omnivores. We just start to assume you are condemning us by default.
Sep 9, 2010
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
The Magic Lemur commented on There Are Three Kinds of Vegans In the World.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with someone being vegan as a personal choice, but if they want to get in my face about it, that's another matter. It's not even about the relative health of it or the treatment of animals with the aggressive vegans, it's about feeling morally superior and having something to pick a fight over.
Which is why I'm always amused when a vegan orders a veggie pizza with no cheese at the pizza place she works at. No one bothers to tell them that the crust is prepared with bacon fat.
Which is why I'm always amused when a vegan orders a veggie pizza with no cheese at the pizza place she works at. No one bothers to tell them that the crust is prepared with bacon fat.
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