Jan 2
vavavarooooom commented on
You Don't Have to Be Thin to Be Healthy.
@37 - since you 'know for a fact' and we have 50 years of data - why not cite your own sources as you have urged @29 to do? You have here a study saying fat /= death, but you are convinced that fat=death. Citation, please. Your opinion not a citation.
Please name your life-long chronic diseases 'caused' by obesity. I will need a citation showing that it was the fat that did it. Not diet, not environment, not smoking, not lack of exercise. If thin people also get the condition, you will have a hard time convincing me that it was the fat that did it.
The criticism of the study is that they included smokers and ill people -- which does not seem entirely wrong to me. The whole point of the study is looking at our reliance on body size to classify a person as healthy or not. They included sick fat and sick thin people, thin and fat smokers -- you can't just decide that smokers don't count because you don't want them to. I might not have included people already sick - but again, if your issue is that thin people do not get sick, you are skewing your numbers by not including sick thin people.
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Jan 2
vavavarooooom commented on
You Don't Have to Be Thin to Be Healthy.
Here is another article which studied nearly 12000 Americans, and looked at mortality correlated with BMI and number of 'healthy habits.' They focused on smoking, alcohol, exercise, and intake of fruits and vegetables. >2000 people in the group died in the 6 years they followed them.
The high (>30) BMI people with zero healthy habits died at 7X the rate of people with high BMI and all 4 habits, and 3X the rate of people with low BMI and no habits. People with only one 'healthy habit' all died at roughly the same rate, regardless of BMI, and at 2X the rate of people with 4 habits.
http://www.jabfm.org/content/25/1/9.full
This is a link to the text but you can get the pdf for free, which I find easier to read.
Jan 2
vavavarooooom commented on
You Don't Have to Be Thin to Be Healthy.
So, just for the record, this comment thread is what science is for. You have these ideas that 'everybody knows,' and you test them. Sometimes you find out that what you 'knew' isn't entirely true. That is hard for most people. At one point everybody knew that gay people were just confused. Everybody knew that beating a child was good for him. Everybody knew that eggs were terrible for your cholesterol. Everybody knew that a Catholic priest is one of the safest, kindest people there are.
Anyway, all the comments about how fat fucks are always unhealthy is kind of ridiculous, when clearly that isn't true. Thin people get heart disease. Thin people get cancer.
To the point on BMI - it is useless for an individual person, and maybe someday we can get doctors to stop using it, but it is useful for studying large populations. Most people are not bodybuilders.
Dec 9, 2012
vavavarooooom commented on
Sunday Morning News.
OK Unpaid Intern - you are not going to lynch every guy in a tan jacket, you are just going to lock up all the women. Makes sense.
Dec 9, 2012
vavavarooooom commented on
Sunday Morning News.
Seriously, Stranger -- how many times are you going to publish this 'she was asking for it by daring to leave her home' bullshit? Again and again and again I read this here. If the Times wrote an article saying that the solution to gay-bashing was for all gay people to be closeted, how would you respond to that? Go fuck yourself, unpaid intern. I will go where I want.
Dec 7, 2012
vavavarooooom commented on
"How Freakin Dare You?????".
I have to say that I think Marc was over the top, but I agree that the cover was tasteless and I was turned off as soon as I saw it. I get the joke, but why not celebrate instead of highlighting one of the worst arguments against equality??
Oct 10, 2012
vavavarooooom commented on
The Death of the Ride Free Area.
I am sad about losing the RFA, though at rush hour, plenty of people are still hopping on for free along 3rd ave. You just need a busy bus.
Are you guys going to cover the clusterfuck that is the Rapid Ride C? Westies got totally screwed in the route revamps. West Seattle Blog has been covering the last week pretty well, but I would love to see wider coverage.