Aug 25, 2011
Liface commented on
Only 2 Percent of Florida Welfare Applicants Fail Drug Test; 100 Percent of Billionaire-Asshole Florida Governors Fail Humanity Test.
@ 18 (rob!) "And what ABOUT the money the state is "saving"? They're currently seeing an application rate of up to 18,000 per year. If EVERY ONE of those were rubber-stamped into the system, their benefits would cost the state less than $30 million per year (average benefit of $134/recipient/month from the article)."
Your math is incorrect.
To quote reddit: "If you spend 1140$ to get a return of 240$/month that's an EXCELLENT investment by ANY measure. The 1140$ is a ONE time COST. The 240$/month savings is recurring. The return is 252% per year."
@22 (zobot) "Would you trolls pay attention? If only 2% fail the drug tests, IT WAS A STUPID IDEA TO DRUG TEST IN THE FIRST PLACE. The assholes who hoped to prove that the poor are not only stinky, but are stinky, addicted, stupid pieces of shit failed in their experiment."
As I noted above, this is not true. The idea was not to prove that poor people use drugs, it was to stop giving welfare benefits to people who are using drugs. People who are using drugs will not apply for benefits because they know they will get denied.
@23 (Warren Terra) "You're missing a key part: whom it is that they're paying for the drug tests. As in, Rick Scott's own private company that offers drug testing services. "
Sure, it's shady. But not all of the testing services are going there. It's simply one of the numerous companies listed on the testing website. It's not like they have some exclusive contract with the state.
@26 (kesimeshi) "Despite the stereotypes, poor people are less likely to use illegal drugs, whether they're receiving welfare or not. Perhaps that's because 1. they have no money; and 2. they face much harsher punishments for drug use than entitled, spoiled rich people. "
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Aug 25, 2011
Liface commented on
Only 2 Percent of Florida Welfare Applicants Fail Drug Test; 100 Percent of Billionaire-Asshole Florida Governors Fail Humanity Test.
@3, @16, EXACTLY!
The Stranger fails at logic.
2% of welfare applications testing positive for drugs does not mean that 2% of all eligible for welfare are on drugs. No one in their right mind is going to front the money for their own drug test when they know they're going to test positive.
@2 "Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year."
Yes, that's just on the rejected applicants. What about the money that the state is saving on people who aren't applying for welfare because they know they will be rejected?
Aug 4, 2011
Liface commented on
Wikipedia Editors Have Discovered Girls.
I don't see this as a problem. Part of the fun of Wikipedia was getting the chance to write new articles about topics. Now that pretty much everything has an article, only the hardcore editors will remain. I'm sure enough people will stick around to make sure that Wikipedia remains a viable project.
May 22, 2011
Liface commented on
Breakfast With Dennis Kucinich.
@8: "Like the vegan pancakes. He has an almost PETA-like ability to sabotage his own message with just a tinge of crazy."
I have to admit I'm flabbergasted trying to understand your point. How are vegan pancakes crazy?