Nov 7, 2012 ClintF commented on Seattle Cops on Pot: "People Can Expect No Enforcement for Possession".
Dom - first, congratulations!! Even though I was only about 51% for I501 due to no-homegrow and DUI limit concerns - and a little pissy with your characterization of "No"-folks - I know you and so many others worked really hard for this. *This* moment will be the moment that history looks back on. Two states simultaneously legalizing - drawing that line in the sand. Gotta love it. Revel in it brotha!

As for the DUI issue, my perfect world would be where people will be judged _on their ability to safety operate a motor-vehicle_. Pot is not alcohol, and it affects everyone differently. Some people won't be able to drive high and others will be able to drive even better. (based on studies) More studies are needed too..

What people need to guard and legislate against, is officers using smell as probable-cause to force a blood draw when there's no evidence for impairment, or even consumption, ie: when pulled over for a simple tail-light-out, or at a speed-trap, etc..

Time will reveal how law-enforcement all around Washington will take this law. Holding them accountable will be important - it's not quite over yet, but this was a huge step.
Cheers! Keep up the great work!
Oct 17, 2011 ClintF commented on Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests.
@ Seattleblues: Firstly, I want to thank you for your polite point-by-point reply. While I'd love to have you fully agree with me, I'll at least be satisfied that you have a clear understanding of my points of view.

With regard to "crimes" of the protesters, I guess it's a matter of degree. For example: With the exception of occasional traffic blockage, I am not aware of any folks being flat-out denied access to businesses or residences in the area of the protest. It's possible that some may avoid businesses for fear of mingling with the protesters, but that is their choice.

If the protesters have broken any laws, from what I have seen, their infractions appear to be quite minor in scale when compared with what many of them are protesting. Take the woman arrested by dozens of police officers today for the "crime" of sitting in a public park with an umbrella. Menace to society? I think not.

On the other end of the criminal spectrum, we're talking about business "leaders", the military-industrial complex, and the Fed bilking hard-working taxpayers out of trillions of dollars.

And, in case you need a raft of indictments against the Bush/Cheney cabal, please allow me to point you, as a starter, to articles of impeachment against the Bush administration, as set forth in 2008 by Congressman Dennis Kucinich:…

Neither you, nor I, truly know if Bush & Cheney committed any crimes. The fact remains that, despite massive public outrage, there has been no formal and impartial investigation. Most of the well-capitalized media outlets simply ignore the issue, because that would be akin to biting the hand that feeds them.

You may be satisfied to take these leaders at their word and assume their innocence. I, on the other hand, see far too much evidence and obvious cover-up attempts pointing to deliberate criminal acts. I *still* want to see an impartial investigation, but I think the stakes are far too high for any kind of impartiality.

So, in the absence of such an investigation, you and I are left with our beliefs, which are highly influenced by our information sources. One of my sources is the delta between what politocos say one moment on video and what they say after they believe the public has long forgotten the first thing they said. I call it "Tivo". Myself, and others, have caught many a politico in bald-faced lies. With such precedent, I believe that further investigation is well warranted.

A "53%-er" who stands firmly with the 99%.
Oct 17, 2011 ClintF commented on Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests.
Um, Seattleblues, why the name calling? You call these Americans, who are exercising their right to peaceably assemble to petition the gov't for a redress of grievances, names such as "criminals", "scum", "hippie trash" and "criminal trash". You seem to have no objection to rounding these patriotic Americans up and depriving them of their rights. What's next in your dream playbook? Another Auschwitz to get rid of 'em for good?

In other news, your assertion that the majority of banks have paid back bailout money is misleading. The majority of banks have settled up, but you don't mention that less than HALF of the bailout money has been paid back:…

Oh, and what about the criminal lead-up to TWO unnecessary wars that helped turn Clinton's surplus into huge debt, all while padding the pockets of the military industrial complex? Why are thousands of reputable scientists, engineers, and architects calling for a re-investigation of the events of 9/11 to determine whether it was an inside job? (even if it wasn't an inside job, the response to intel and events unfolding that day could be described as criminally negligent). Why was Saudi Arabia given a free pass when most of the 9/11 hijackers Saudi nationals? Also, did you have any problem when Reagan gave weapons to the Mujahideen that would eventually be used to kill and maim our own men and women? You rip Greece and Italy for their "stupid socialist policies" and probably don't even have the sense to see our very own military and police as "socialist" in nature.

I'm tired of my tax dollars being squandered on military and police policy I don't agree with, and yet I have nearly NO choice but to pay up, lest I be put in prison. I'd call that kind of coercion "socialist" for certain. So what it comes down to is what flavor of socialism you and I each favor.

And, no matter how much you may want to lump everyone into simple categories, every single "occupy" protester has their own individual reasons for being there. If you actually get past your apparent prejudice and pay attention, you might even agree with some of them.

In the meantime, Ad-hominem attacks such as name-calling do nothing to bolster your position (especially when you show such blatant disregard for our great nation's sacred Bill of Rights) in fact, such attacks reveal how little actual substance you have to argue with.
Feb 24, 2011 ClintF commented on Rank and Vile.
Someone supporting the police advocating violence?
Shocking! Shocking I tell you!
Jan 12, 2011 ClintF commented on Crosshairs and Consequences.
@32: Awesome suggestion. Kind of a no-brainer really. Surprised The Stranger didn't jump on it. Real surveyors marks are very distinguishable from crosshairs, and it would have made the point perfectly. Instead, the stranger jumped right into the mud with Palin on this one.
Nov 9, 2010 ClintF commented on Prosecutor Who Approved Warrant May Not Be Telling Truth About Pot Bust.
Apartment buildings typically have a wall of individual power meters near the service entrance, one for each residence, and a couple for apartment-wide power use. The assertion that the individual bill is unavailable is ridiculous. The only way this could be true would be if electricity was included in Mr. Laudanski's rent by the landlord. Not likely.
Oct 27, 2010 ClintF commented on Submachine Guns Drawn, Seattle Police Break Down Door of Medical Marijuana Patient, Push Him to the Floor, and Raid His Home—for Two Tiny Pot Plants.
JJ, with all due respect and gratitude for your service to our country (seriously), I'm GLAD and RELIEVED you're not a law-enforcement officer (again, seriously). How many of those whom you killed in Afghanistan were afforded due-process under the law to prove their guilt? Did any of them get their day in court? Of course not, you were in a foreign nation, conducting a WAR.

Unlike conducting a WAR in Afghanistan, we have a completely different set of rules here, namely the concept of "innocence until proven guilt". A soldier's instincts and knee-jerk-reactions for survival in a war zone are simply INCOMPATIBLE with the necessary instincts required for the preservation of liberty here at home.

I'd like to see some serious PTSD tests and knee-jerk reaction training administered to post-war vets before allowing them to carry firearms as members of stateside law-enforcement. VIOLENCE SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT. PERIOD.
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