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Feb 14, 2013 doeberman commented on How Much Pot Does Washington Need?.
3 million lbs. a year.. thats the math.
Oct 31, 2012 doeberman commented on Was Legalizing Medical Marijuana a Mistake?.
In Seattle right now its just a ticket that hardly ever gets written. What are we even gaining? We certainly are giving up a lot for it.
Oct 31, 2012 doeberman commented on Was Legalizing Medical Marijuana a Mistake?.
Done ssos.. Ill take those odds all day. If you're naive enough to think people go to jail for possessing less than an ounce then you're certainly naive enough to take the bait on that one. Introduce me to one person who sat in jail for longer than a weekend for possessing less than an ounce and Ill introduce you to 10 that have done 3-6 months in jail for a third DUI offense. Use your logic, thats what it's there for..
Oct 31, 2012 doeberman commented on Was Legalizing Medical Marijuana a Mistake?.
If you pretend that 502 is going to clear out the jails one more time Im calling MITT Romney on you. Less than 1% of the jails are filled with minorities who are in there for POSSESSING LESS THAN AN OUNCE. Its a hot load of BULLSHIT bro, you know it, we know it.. stop lying to people. However, having an authorization has helped this cause out significantly DOM, of course you know that already though because you're a well researched journalist.

Real legalization would reduce prison populations.. this one will increase it with 'stoned' drivers with multiple DUIs. I'd be willing to bet my last dollar on it.
Oct 31, 2012 doeberman commented on Was Legalizing Medical Marijuana a Mistake?.
Dom you certainly are a busy guy these days aren't you. Again; 4e is a marketing company built for a post legalization era, it's why our brand leans towards the mainstream. We have a magazine, its called PDA. We have a shirt company, its called 4eMade. We have an 800 number that you can call if you are someone who is looking to be put in touch with a medical professional that might be able to help.

If you guys took half the time to consult with us (and the members we represent) that you've taken to attack us with smear campaigns 502 would be passing with flying colors. Instead you decided to attack every aspect of this industry and paint us as the poster children for what you're shrinking (and I mean fast) cheer squad has decided is the problem. Its not the problem however, as a pro-legalization organization we have done to forward this cause then you will ever be able to do from your small post on capital hill. We have touched hundreds of thousands of people with the message that they can come out of hiding and partaking in something that the Washington State voters passed.

Why do you hate us Dom? All we asked was that the patients voice was heard in the debate and all you have done is everything in your power to belittle us and drag us through the mud. Where does the anger come from? Did we abuse you somehow? Now that you are no longer a reporter, but rather a full fledged politician is this a strategy of design or necessity? I was under the impression that 502 was going to pass with flying colors so why are you still bothering all of us with these right-wing tactics?

Its as pathetic as your fake Gonzo-style first person journalism. Seriously brother, this whole debate is just a lot better off without you. You've caused NAW considerably more damage than you've helped. Don't be confused by the few hundred people reading your daily slog, the entire patient community (and there's about 400,000 of us) knows exactly who you are and is likely voting no because of you. What's more, I know tons and tons of people who have told me personally that the way you have attacked us is so asinine that it must speak to something the effort in general. Speak it does Dom, and self-destruct you have.

When I have people telling me they are going back to popping pills post 502 so that they can drive 'legally' worries me. I thought we were trying to take this thing the other way, but bad laws have all sorts of unintended consequences.
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Aug 21, 2012 doeberman commented on Did the Medical-Marijuana Industry Go Too Far Campaigning Against Pot Legalization Initiative 502 at Hempfest this Weekend?.
@32 I-517

There are other options already on the table. Our plan is to kill this piece of shit and pass the right thing in 12 months. Is that such a hard thing to understand?
Aug 21, 2012 doeberman commented on Did the Medical-Marijuana Industry Go Too Far Campaigning Against Pot Legalization Initiative 502 at Hempfest this Weekend?.
Hey Dom. Explain to everyone what 'SEVERBILITY' is and why it exist in 502?

Give up? It means that even if the feds come and strike some of this bill then the rest of it will hold. Why would we include it in this bill if we 1) didn't expect for some of the bill to be 'severed', 2) didn't want the DUI component to hold up regardless. Im no conspiracy theorist but shouldn't we all scratch are heads as to why this is in the bill at all? Shouldn't we all be a little bit concerned that its in there.

Ill tell you a factoid. A study that is set to be released later this year took 20 MMJ patients (in colorado) and quarantined them for 30 days. No smoking, not for any of them. They then tested there are active THC levels everyday and recorded the results. What they actually found was that the levels actually ROSE AND FELL throughout the various days without any relationship to impairment. There were certain patients that tested above a .25 NG/ML on the 15th day. There were still patients that tested above a .05 NG/ML on the 30th day.

Under 502 they would get a DUI.. after the 30th day.

There is a reason we are concerned. Not because we are stoned, or stupid, or greedy.. its because we are trying to create law on science that isn't real.

Most access point owners would normally be for this bill. They see what is happening in Cali, they watch it closer then you. They don't want to be raided, they would rather get a license. But what choice do we have? Bad legislation is bad legislation and we're not going to stand for it. Ultimately we have to make the same choice that we have made all the way up to this point. Fight like hell.
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Aug 21, 2012 doeberman commented on Did the Medical-Marijuana Industry Go Too Far Campaigning Against Pot Legalization Initiative 502 at Hempfest this Weekend?.
This is how it worked.

1) you guys did the polling.
2) you raised the money from out of state resources.
3) your polling showed that you didn't need the MMj community at all to pass the bill.

So you decided to COMPLETELY leave the entire legalization and MMJ community out of the process. EVERY SINGLE LEGALIZATION outfit in the state is against 502. Shouldn't we all ask why before we go ahead and just decide blindly that this is a great bill.

502 STOLE the momentum from the legalization movement and created a bill that fucks us all. This is not legalization, no one will go to a store and pay twice as much for bullshit pot. No one. Its one of the dumbest pieces of legislation ever written, which most lawyers will agree will never make it out of the State supreme court (Inslee and McKenna are both against it) and all we will be left with is this BULLSHIT DUI bill. Thats the truth right there. Rule number one in activism is DO NO HARM. This is very very harmful.

Legalization is inevitable. Why would we pass this CRAP this year when we can pass something great next year. It makes no sense. Its terrible precedent for the nationwide effort.

Lastly, if the science is so clear on the DUI provision THEN WHY DID COLORADO AND OREGON both decide to pull it out of there bill? I'll answer it for you, BECAUSE THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR IT. There is a perfectly fine DUI measure in place. This bill could take decades to undue if it ever happens. Be smart.. Read the bill, think about it, then decide.
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Aug 21, 2012 doeberman commented on Did the Medical-Marijuana Industry Go Too Far Campaigning Against Pot Legalization Initiative 502 at Hempfest this Weekend?.
Dom Dom Dom... you certainly are a one trick pony:

1) Don't worry about our reporting. Its straight.

2) 4evergreen Group was built for legalization and we are 100% for legalization. Anyone with an iota of business sense would be able to see this from a mile away. Do you think we would spend this much time on developing a brand without the foresight to think 'Gee, we're really screwed if this legalizes'. OF COURSE NOT. My CFO is kicking me for being against 1-502 because he understands the financial opportunity that would exist if it passed. THINK ABOUT IT.. we have the most recognizable brand in this space, do you honestly think that we wouldn't find a way to monetize it if the marker 10x'ed?? Seriously? I don't ever want to hear this shameful argument from you ever again. Frankly its pathetic. We decided to go against 502 because its THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Morals, you ever heard of them? Your track record certainly wouldn't show it.

2) 502 cannot be compared to Prop 19 because it is MUCH MUCH MUCH worse. They had home grows for all. We have a DUI component that WILL shift law enforcement revenue strategy from busting small distribution and possession charges into making 'routine' DUI busts. Don't believe me? I have quotes from law enforcement outside of Seattle that admit this. Don't believe that? Read PDA issue 3.

3) Unlike that downright RACIST ACLU backed advertisement that states that '502 will take marijuana out of the hands of the gangs' it is actually the exact opposite that will occur. Throughout history it has been proven that when you tax the shit out of commodity (502 comes with an 85% tax, thats right 85%) EVERYTHING moves back underground. You think that Wa St. has the ability to control that? Seriously? There has never been a time when obtaining liquor on the black market has been easier than it is now. Why do you think that is Dom? Your the smartass in the room. Answer the question. Dick.

4) Yes on 502'ers got their ass handed to them at Hempfest because a) we're right, b) we're more passionate, c) Holcomb has never been interested in the 'smokers' your ad proves that. Think Im lying? Ill wait to drop that one. You also failed to mention that I personally got assaulted by a 502'er AND the same asshole spit in my friends face (it really happened) when he stepped in to defend me.

I can go on and on and on and on about how terrible this bill will be for a) patients, b) minorities, c) people that dont live on capital hill d) everyone, but Im sick of trying to convince a bunch of people who would rather live in a vacuum.

ALL: READ THE BILL! have your lawyer read it. Notice that they COMPLETELY REWRITE THE DUI laws of washington state that will effect not only smokers but drinkers too. Its a trojan horse, and Dom is the jockey.

Keep riding it brother.. the truth is about to be revealed for ALL to see

Jb 4e
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Mar 28, 2012 doeberman commented on Queens Supreme.
TheeSat!

What wins the day for them is the live show. The way the mix a hipster doo-wop almost L-Boogie style is interesting. I think thats what sets them apart more than being lesbian lovers. Im a hater of gimmicks, but this one feels about right. Would never listen to an entire album however... either way, Props!
 
 

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