Sep 8, 2016 Timothy commented on The Election Is Tightening—Don't Waste Your Vote.
@89...you're right! You win! Stein is a viable candidate with legitimate experience to govern this Country and I should take their devotion to her more seriously. Thanks for enlightening me.
Sep 8, 2016 Timothy commented on The Election Is Tightening—Don't Waste Your Vote.
@73...I've engaged Stein (and Sanders b4 that) voters in plenty of serious discussions about deep policy issues. Spoken at length about serious topics. And have just come to the conclusion that they really aren't interested in having an actual dialogue. They tend to like their outsider tribalism, their purity of position, and their tantrums. I'm simply done catering to them, because this meme of "just treat us nicely! or we'll take our toys and go home" is boring, old, and I now believe, simply untrue. So you go ahead and continue to play their game. I'm going to just call them idiots.
Sep 8, 2016 Timothy commented on The Election Is Tightening—Don't Waste Your Vote.
@73....if you think I'm going to cater to your ignorant self...you can go f yourself. You're not important, and our narrow view of reality matters not at all. Knock yourself out over Stein. Live in the peanut gallery. Hold on to your pure bullshit view of reality. Good for you.

Meanwhile, the rest of us will build the world. I'm not going to bet you or your pals anything. The point is, we get all the "concerns" that you do; we just realize the world is complicated. So, change "No More War" and do nothing to make the world a better place.
Sep 7, 2016 Timothy commented on The Election Is Tightening—Don't Waste Your Vote.
Hey @62....it's not just that Nader voters didn't vote for Gore. It's that the idiot Nader should have endorsed and campaigned for Gore. And had Nader endorsed and campaigned for Gore in the spirit of building a coalition among Left leaning groups, Gore would have won. Period.

That would have done important things for the GREEN party. 1) Greens wouldn't have had to spend all their energy trying to make up ground lost to Bush and 2) could have used that energy to build a more robust and viable Green Party.

This canard that the Greens are not to blame is stupid. Greens are silly. They are a vanity party; Jill Stein is running to promote herself and nothing else. Nader ran for reasons other than to win the Presidency. Using electoral politics to do anything other than win that office is a terrible messaging strategy. All it does is re-confirm that you are a loser.

AS for the rest of your drivel that Democrats don't care to improve systems. BS. Really, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Dems don't operate in a vacuum. We are fighting a Conservative movement that currently runs Congress. We've been pushing back on voter reg laws...on gerrymandering...on citizen united.

Get in the game if you want to complain about the game.

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Sep 7, 2016 Timothy commented on The Election Is Tightening—Don't Waste Your Vote.
@55...that you believe that those polls actually told you something of value back then...

Well...just go on believing it. As you say, there's no convincing you otherwise.
Sep 7, 2016 Timothy commented on The Election Is Tightening—Don't Waste Your Vote.
This election has taught us, with emphasis, that the ultra-left are every bit as stupid as the ultra-right.

And yes...@36...I'm calling you an idiot.
Sep 4, 2016 Timothy commented on Hillary Clinton Is a Neocon Warmonger, In a Capitol Hill Sticker.
damn typos. Hey Stranger...edit function? It's 2016.
Sep 4, 2016 Timothy commented on Hillary Clinton Is a Neocon Warmonger, In a Capitol Hill Sticker.
If there was a single "fact" in this piece that supports the narrative, I couldn't find it. Randomly selecting a few people who might vote for or endorse Clinton does not equal some mystical ability to predict the future. And suggesting that she has "surrounded" herself with them is simply a lie. But I get why you're motivated to construct a false narrative.

The other point that cracks me up is when Clinton is compared to Stein. You can't compare a peanut gallery politician, who never has and never will have to make a complicated decision to won who has spent her life actually working. Thanks, but no thanks. I have a Peanut Gallery Allergy. Supporting Stein is like fantasy football; you do know you're not actually playing, right?
Aug 5, 2016 Timothy commented on This Week on the Blabbermouth Podcast: Seattle Socialist Tries to Defend Support for Jill Stein.
"On virtually every major issue facing this country and the needs of working families, Clinton’s positions are far superior to Trump’s. Our campaigns worked together to produce the most progressive platform in the history of American politics. Trump’s campaign wrote one of the most reactionary documents."

-- Bernie Sanders

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-…
Aug 5, 2016 Timothy commented on This Week on the Blabbermouth Podcast: Seattle Socialist Tries to Defend Support for Jill Stein.
The Nader problem transcends how many of his voters would have voted for Gore or Bush or stayed home. The question is more complex.

Ralph Nader shared much, much more in common with Al Gore than he did with George Bush. The Green Party and those who voted for it lost much more with George Bush than they would have with Al Gore. That energy cost them the ability to increase their movement, because it forced them to work to regain ground gained under Bill Clinton and subsequently lost to George Bush.

The point being, not only was it idiotic for Ralph Nader to siphon votes from the left, it was extremely idiotic for him to not campaigns specifically FOR Al Gore. There's no doubt that had Ralph Nader campaigned for the Progressive Candidate, that Al Gore would have been President.