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      <![CDATA[Please ignore spelling/autocorrect errors. I was typing fast.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't know if I approve or disapprove.  I don't know what diplomatic moves have been made, so I cannot judge.<br />
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That said, I would like to suggest to the lot of you commenters who already posted the following:<br />
 1. There will be no land war in Iran. That would be foolhardy to say the least.<br />
 2. If Israel attacks --and they will do so ONLY when there is <i>zero</i> media buzz about any possibiliy of attack-- they will do so with precise strikes against specific targets, there is no way Israel will start a land war with Iran.<br />
 3. The war has already begun:  Israel's targeted assassinations, the Stuxnet and other viruses, and the massive currency and trade moves made by Europe at the US's behest, and Iran's counter-moves in the last few months clearly indicate that the gauntlet's are on the floor.  <br />
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 Why do you think Iran is trading it's energy resources with China and India for yuan, rupees, and GOLD?  And not the traditional petrodollars?  Did you know that the US caused 40% Iranian inflation in the space of a week back in February?  <br />
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It's on babies, it's already on.  Nation-states are moving away fom the "invade-&-occupy" model of warfare, and are fully engaged in the battlefields of currencies and computer networks (oh, and surgical strikes & assassinations).
        
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      <![CDATA[@12<br />
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Defeatist.
        
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      <![CDATA[This country is doomed. Fortunately it won't exist much longer.
        
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      <![CDATA[Approve.<br />
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I'm glad there is a sane, intelligent mind in charge of our country who thinks things through, because frankly, if I was president, I'm afraid I would have already had the country bombed flat.
        
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      <![CDATA[we're  not at war yet, and israel still hasn't done anything crazy, so i approve of that.<br />
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btw, iran is totally going to get a nuke within 5 years if not sooner. after all, n. korea did. and we're all going to be fine.
        
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      <![CDATA[Approve.<br />
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Obama has resisted starting yet another war/debacle in the middle east, despite saber rattling by the media and the right. <br />
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If he were to actually get sucked in to all the blather and change his mind and go to war with Iran, I would change my vote to disapprove. But as long as he keeps us out of yet another pointless war, I got his back.
        
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      <![CDATA[@6  "Right," the cynic would say, "It's a treaty, not a suicide pact!"
        
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      <![CDATA[I said approve though I have some hesitation.  The media certianly has been pushing the idea of war with Iran but Obama has resisted for the time being.  Though at the end of the day it depends on how badly the corporate powers, who really control Obama, want a war.<br />
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And if they decide they can make money on such a war then it's on.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't know. I agree with @1 but I've reserved judgement until Obama actually makes a decision--even though I am guessing he's probably increased covert special ops against Iran. <br />
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However, I am not actually sure what treaty we're bound by to protect Israel at all costs, no matter if it's a pre-emptive war of agression? Geneva Conventions? HAH! United Nations Convention Against Torture? HAHA! There's just a little bit of our track record recognizing treaty obligations.
        
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      <![CDATA[@1--Whatever we think about the Netflix-Yat-Ho government in Tel Aviv, the state of Israel is still our ally and we're still bound to them by treaty obligations. So right here and now, the only thing we can do is keep saying we've got their back.<br />
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Remember, the Head of State of Iran is in fact a dear old man who loves us all very much but takes almost no public role in government. That's President I'm a Dinner Jacket's job. The HoS has powers like a queer combination of our POTUS and Rome's Pope, but since he lives quietly, he's doubly vulnerable to the bs both western orifices have to suffer.  All this forces us to publicly treat the Islamic Republic like petulant children. <br />
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      <![CDATA[All of Netanyahu’s lies and saber-rattling about Iran was to shake down Obama for more money and weapons. It worked of course; Obama can't have another Middle East war in an election year.<br />
<a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/03/13/your-money-or-your-political-life/" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/03/13/y&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[I've been trying to follow what's going on and all I know for sure is we're not moving towards military options. As for what we are doing, I have no idea.<br />
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Aside from that whole "we are your eternal goyim butt buddy" thing with Israel.
        
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      <![CDATA[@1  There are things that world leaders say in public and then there are things world leaders say to each other in private.  And if Wikileaks has shown us nothing, it shows that these two lines of communication are so very different.  Indeed, diplomacy would be impossible without it, I think.<br />
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I find the fact that the Netanyahu(sp?) government hasn't already declared war on Iran, either overtly or de facto, somewhat comforting.<br />
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And I totally agree with you about President McCain, although in my mind, McCain stroked out in 2009 and it's actually President Palin (well her handlers anyway) that has our troops pinned down in their green zones trying to withstand the second insurgencies in Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Detroit...
        
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      <![CDATA[Dissaprove: I know that if this were President McCain we'd already be prepping our troops to march into Tehran, so in that sense Obama is something of an improvement. However I hate that there is not even a discussion of the possibility that, should Israel attack Iran without the previous agreement of the US, they should be forced to fight their own damned war, without our help.<br />
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Why is it assumed by pretty much everyone in the political establishment, including Obama, that if Israel attacks Iran that means the US must go to war with Iran as well? We are different countries and it's simply insane that we allow a much smaller, weaker country interested in its own internal politics to direct American foreign policy. The responsibility for this is of the American political establishment, especially Obama's. If we go to war on another Middle Eastern country with no real plan, no end in sight, no money and no vital security interest, it'll be Obama's fault and the current sabre rattling is bringing the ghost of Iraq past creepily into view.
        
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