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    <author><![CDATA[Evan Duke]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Well, lets see? The S.P.D. killed John T. Williams and many other unarmed citizens. The government kills countless people daily for varying reasons from crooked, sadistic cops to war for oil. The banks worked with them to pull off the foreclosure scams. And you want to cry for justice for some windows? Scream for justice till the cows come home. But seriously, scream it for something that matters. Where are your demands for justice for the things the SPD, gov, and banks have done? This is ridiculous! What is wrong with people?
        
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      <![CDATA[@13<br />
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Yes, we absolutely do train our police about other political ideologies:  Survivalism, religious cultism, anti-immigration and white power, anti-abortionism, you name it.<br />
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Generally speaking, people who aren't opposed to having a police force to begin with aren't opposed to having a police force trained to deal with political extremists who seem likely to act on their beliefs.
        
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      <![CDATA[@5 for the I'll Show Me Mine If You Show Me Yours win.<br />
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@17 is right.
        
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      <![CDATA[Everyone knew there would be smashing of windows and vandalism during these protests. Yet somehow the police both failed to prevent it and failed to do its own videotaping, and now has to strongarm local news outlets. Pathetic.<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[@9: The police don't need to ignore crimes, just act with a proportionate response. The motivations for SPD's overreactions should always be questioned.
        
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      <![CDATA[@14: JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America are enemies to the people of the United States, and to our way of life.  Why are our police wasting time on some broken windows when these mega-crooks run free?
        
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      <![CDATA[@6:  I think they want the videos of the anarchist groups so much because by definition, an anarchist group is an enemy to the United States government, and our way of life.  <br />
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"All enemies foreign and domestic," as the line goes.     <br />
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I can not fault the government for wanting information on a group that desires the destruction of the government, but the scope of the subpeona really should be limited to footage of overtly illegal activities, not just people protesting or organizing.<br />
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Outside of that scope, is is a government spying on its people, in violation of the constitution.
        
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      <![CDATA[The subpoena states that Rik Hall, the detective who submitted the supporting declaration, attended "training regarding anarchism."  Where can we find out more about this training?  Do we train our police about any other political ideologies?
        
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      <![CDATA[cool, so journalism becomes just another eye in the sky in the ever expanding surveillance society. <br />
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I'm surprised they haven't subpenaed people video'd recording things with their phones.  Fuck Fascism. <br />
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      <![CDATA[What? You mean with half the Stranger staff down there shooting pictures, they didn't drop a subpoena on your desk too? Where's the love? Even with a fucking Pulitzer, you still get no respect.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Supreme Ruler Of The Universe]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[<br />
Funny, I just happened to catch "Nothing But the Truth" (2008) with Kate Beckensale.<br />
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Ostensibly a drama somewhat based on the Valerie Plame affair, the majority of the movie is about the struggle of the reporter to maintain integrity in a dirty world that tries to break her down.<br />
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It's really a great movie...<br />
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<a href="https://signup.netflix.com/movie/Nothing-But-the-Truth/70107137" rel="nofollow">https://signup.netflix.com/movie/Nothing&hellip;</a><br />
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      <![CDATA[Doug, which kinds of property damage, assault, and rioting do you think ought to be ignored by the SPD?  I know of some street gangs and right-wing radicals who would be very interested in your answers.
        
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      <![CDATA[Er, that was in reply to @4.
        
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      <![CDATA[No reason not to in this case, l suppose, but they'd still get subpoenaed by someone or other in the course of a trial.  Any competent lawyer knows how to make hay from the difference between "they said they published" and "they have been obliged by the court to supply."<br />
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It's the judge's signature that makes that document binding, not the police investigator's.
        
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      <![CDATA[All this is much ado about very little. You'd think there was a terrorist attack in downtown Seattle, instead of just a few smashed windows.<br />
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What possibly could be SPD's motivation to blow this tiny May Day episode out of proportion? Could it be to advance their agenda of greater citizen surveillance? Or maybe to gain sympathy for a department that teeters on the edge of a DOJ crackdown?<br />
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This police department is not to be trusted, and any news agency that willfully surrenders documentation to SPD should be equally scorned.
        
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      <![CDATA[Let's trade the May Day videos for "missing" dash cam videos.
        
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      <![CDATA[Why not just publish the whole video?
        
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      <![CDATA[No doubt the video is valuable to identify the anarchists who disrupted the legitimate protestors that day.  They should be fully prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.<br />
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But does anyone else find it extremely ironic that the very group that wants to see ALL the footage from that day is the same group that constantly fights ANY release of their own video off the cameras on their cars? <br />
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The SPD should also be very careful that by being so heavy handed COMMANDING footage that during the next civil unrest we don't find the media targeted.
        
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      <![CDATA[@1, that's standard language dictated by the court, not the police department.<br />
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Damned betcha it's not 9:00. They have to give reasonable notice. Not sure what that is in Washington, but it ain't overnight.
        
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      <![CDATA[YOU ARE HEREBY COMMANDED...<br />
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Sheesh, can't they at least <i>pretend</i> like they don't rule us with an iron fist?
        
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