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      <title>Comments On: Every Child Deserves a Mother and a Father
    
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      <![CDATA[@12:  That's kind of the point of the series, idiot:  that that sort of argument is nonsense.  Even when it's used against gay couples.  <br />
        
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      <![CDATA[Personally, I think breeding should be reclassified as a privilege, not a right, and that would be parents should be required to apply for a license, based on merit. <br />
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While the argument that same sex couples shouldn't be able to be parents is discriminatory, there could be one benefit that comes out of them succeeding. <br />
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If the public can interfere and block same sex couples from having children in the name of putting children's welfare first, then by that same argument, the public should be able to interfere in the families of opposite sex couples. <br />
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After reading this article from Australia;<br />
<a href="http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/he-was-floppy-like-he-was-dead-20120518-1yvik.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/he-was&hellip;</a><br />
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I'm thinking the right to parent needs to become a thing of the past. <br />
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      <![CDATA[@12, see @10.
        
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      <![CDATA[John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer were gay, therefore all GBLT individuals must be serial killers.<br />
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You're a fucking asshole with this shit, Dan.
        
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      <![CDATA[Most of these stories you post, Dan, make me understand and agree with FotF’s claims more and more. This is an organization I have long resented, so that’s a little unsettling to now agree with them on even one principal.<br />
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A lot of these posts are about “broken” families: kids born “out of wedlock” or parents who’ve divorced, and blended families.  I can’t recall any (maybe one?) that were about a FotF-sanctioned family structures that imploded.<br />
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Josh Powell, Steven Powell – prime examples of FotF-style family structures that went bad. The survivalist they were looking for a few weeks ago.  But about this story and the one you posted on Tuesday, Dobson, were he paying attention, would simply say that since they had a child before marriage and she had an older child from a previous relationship that it was doomed to fail (or however he’d put it).<br />
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I hate FotF, I resent Dobson. But most of these posts don’t address their theory. These stories are an indictment on our society that we are failing our children.<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[@6 "I really really don't understand the point of posting it here."<br />
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Dan posts these stories as an ongoing response to the argument made by many on the right that having a mother and a father is inherently and always a better option than any other arrangement, including havening two parents of the same gender.<br />
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It is not meant to indicate that heterosexuals are bad and that their failures are a win for gay people. It is to show that there are many instances where children would have been better off without their heterosexual parents and better of with different parents, even if those parents didn't fit the One Man, One Woman model.<br />
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When anti gay folks claim that it is ALWAYS better for a child to be with two heterosexual parents we say, even if the parents are abusive or deranged? And these are just examples that prove that there are abusive and deranged parents out there who fit the model that the right often claims is always superior.<br />
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It's not a win for anyone. It's a pin the balloon that is their argument that gay people should never have children because children are always better off with heterosexual parents.
        
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      <![CDATA[I agree with slightlyeccentric.  However, I've come to see these posts of Mr. Savage's as an admonition not to take one case of domestic violence within a homosexual relationship and use it as "proof" that homosexual relationships are inherently bad.  I imagine that the first "mother and father" posts explicitly said what they were about (haven't read 'em; benefit of the doubt).
        
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      <![CDATA[donation made. Thanks for including the link to <a href="http://www.childhaven.org/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.childhaven.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.childhaven.org</a></a>.<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[@5 think about the grander point of the ECDMAAF series. you're right...each post doesn't make much sense but if you think about it all together...it just destroys a certain straight conservative asswipe argument against gay marriage.
        
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      <![CDATA[I really don't understand the point of this post.  If you were making a point about domestic violence, then I would be glad, but that is clearly not the point here.  Every straight marriage that fails is not a victory for the gay rights movement, it is just a sad ending to a relationship that two people wanted to last.  And this post has no other point than for you to score points off of someone's horrible tragedy.
        
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      <![CDATA[This post makes e uncomfortable.  Every straight marriage that fails is not a victory for the gay rights movement, it is just the end of a relationship that two people wanted to last forever, and it is sad.  This story especially is sad, and I really really don't understand the point of posting it here.  If you were making a point about the horrors of domestic violence, then I would applaud, but instead you are just making cheap points from someone's tragedy.
        
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      <![CDATA[@2<br />
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Good point, this would be totally predictable in most islamic hellholes.
        
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      <![CDATA[Straight marriage ladies and gentlemen.
        
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      <![CDATA[She clearly wasn't a virgin.
        
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      <![CDATA[Wow, that was fast, only married for a couple of hours!<br />
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It must have been some kind of psychotic breakdown...
        
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