http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/06/11/gay-man-marries-straight-woman-enjoys-fucking-her-writes-blog-post-about-it-internet-explodes Comments On: Gay Man Marries Straight Woman, Enjoys Fucking Her, Writes Blog Post About It, Internet Explodes by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Sat, 25 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Sat, 25 May 2013 23:30:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by hurting]]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:46:45 -0800 The Stranger Posted by brent.b]]> Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:42:37 -0700 The Stranger
"....he makes his living off of teaching kids to reject their natural desires to act on homosexual feelings.

Josh Weed is an “ex-gay” therapist, primarily for for children (http://joshuaweedcounseling.blogspot.com…). He is heavily involved with an ex-gay organization called LifeSTAR (http://www.lifestarwashington.com/staff.…). Check out this “ex-gay Mormon’s” blog, in which he describes his experiences in the 12 step programs at LifeSTAR: http://penitance.wordpress.com/tag/lifes….

LifeSTAR is also an organization that frequently sends speakers to Utah-based Evergreen International (http://evergreeninternational.org/Speake…). Evergreen International is a notorious ex-gay “reparative therapy” outfit that was “outed” (so to speak) in the 1980′s for doing electroshock therapy on the genitals of gay men, while forcing them to watch gay porn.

So called “reparative therapy” is widely criticized as having direct connections to depression and suicide. The practice is well on its way to being banned in California (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/californ…).

Why does Josh Weed’s blog post fail to mention his professional background as an ex-gay reparative therapist? Don’t you think it is relevant to understanding his perspective? I sure do."

This blog post of his was to make a political statement. He may truly love his wife; there are plenty (as mentioned above) that have a certain sexual orientation, but make (and sometimes marry) the few exceptions to their rules. Maybe he doesn't have lust for her, maybe he does. I'm not about to videotape their sex to ascertain for myself.

However, he clearly believes that being gay is not good, and that he is expected to fight his nature to be granted a passage to heaven. So he is likely counseling children and teens and questioning adults the same way.

He lives in WA now, not UT. While I wish all the kids in UT growing up under the myopic view of Mormonism could be saved, I hope that Weed's neighbors in WA can be loud and loving enough to help his patients see that they do NOT need reparative therapy, they don't need to try to pray away the gay, and they certainly don't need to look to this man as a role model.
Posted by ~KittN]]> Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:49:04 -0700 The Stranger
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Posted by Fortunate]]> Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:01:38 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Tommyfoolery]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:26:52 -0700 The Stranger
It's very misogynistic to expect straight women to marry someone who would rather be fucking dudes, period. If a woman wants to get into such an arrangement, eyes wide open, for whatever reasons (cf Cole Porter's wife, who had been burned by an abusive straight freak, and hey it was Cole Porter), whatever. But Mormon women are the most sexually naive on the planet, I would know.
Posted by DC270]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:55:35 -0700 The Stranger Posted by gromm]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:45:47 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Gonesouth]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:51:44 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Gonesouth]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:32:07 -0700 The Stranger
"I believe the doctrine of the Mormon Church is true. One of the key doctrines of the church is that “marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children.” "

That, translated into non Mormon English, means he is against same-sex marriage. The Mormon church teaches that marriage is only acceptable between a man and a woman. To believe in the Church's doctrine on marriage is to be against same-sex marriage. There really is no way around that. He's not using the exact words, "I'm against same-sex marriage". But he is describing what he believe in by citing a doctrinal position on marriage, and that position includes opposition to same-sex marriage.

He aslo said:

"Being gay does not mean you are a sinner or that you are evil. Sin is in action, not in temptation or attraction. I feel this is a very important distinction. This is true for every single person. You don’t get to choose your circumstances, but you do get to choose what you do with them."

Again, very cleverly worded so that he doesn't come out and say that being gay isn't a sin, but if you act on being gay it is a sin, but that is clearly what he means.

And @129, yes, the Bible says many things are a sin, as Weed is also implying in his comments. I don't care. Just as I don't care when Christians claim it's OK for them to call others sinners since they call themselves sinners too. They can call themselves what ever they want, that doesn't make it not an insult when they call others that, and they can call dusting your house a sin, it doesn't change the fact that calling someone else's most important and significant relationships sinful is an insult.

And they can do that if they want. They have that right. But they don't have the right to be free from criticism when the people they insult treat them in kind.
Posted by Fortunate]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:17:44 -0700 The Stranger Posted by sage dowser]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:15:28 -0700 The Stranger Posted by sage dowser]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:58:01 -0700 The Stranger
I believe the bible defines gay sex as a sin. But it also defines dishonoring your parents, lust, wanting something someone else has, and many many other things as sins. It also spends way more time talking about how it's ok to sin. And your sins don't define who you are. This is the message I took from that section.

I may be guilty of what I am accusing most on the board of, by seeing only what I want to see in this. But at least I am not seeing what I want to see in spite of its absence. Which is what I fear the majority of these comments, and this post, are trending towards.
Posted by Tommyfoolery]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:53:10 -0700 The Stranger
All I can say about this tool is adequately summed up in the words of Buzz Lightyear: "you are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity"
Posted by Tetchy Brit]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:08:34 -0700 The Stranger Please quote the section where he calls gay sex a sin.
Posted by Tommyfoolery]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:52:26 -0700 The Stranger Posted by ML77]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:36:14 -0700 The Stranger
"It must be against it!"
Posted by AirBuddy]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:16:12 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Sportpilot]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:53:06 -0700 The Stranger
There is no "counterargument" because there is no argument to counter. The whole "does this mean straight people should only marry people of the same sex" is just forcing your bias into a conversation that never occurred.
When he says: "Many people never get to this point in their sex lives because it requires incredible communication, trust, vulnerability, and connection. And Lolly and I have had that from day one, mostly because we weren’t distracted by the powerful chemicals of infatuation and obsession that usually bring a couple together"
He is not saying it's because he's gay or she's a female. Yes, that plays a part of it, but their relationship is a byproduct of their religion. A religion that stresses early marriage, because marrying someone you don't love is more important than having premarital sex. And young people can't be trusted not to have premarital sex, so they should just get married.

To me, all these verbal pitchforks and torches, are just as bad as "GOD HATES FAGS" signs. I think #90 hit it on the head when they said it's about the right to have choices. The fact that you don't agree with his choice, is NOT a valid reason to vilify him. In fact, it's the exact thing that you claim to be fighting against, by demonizing his post.

And even worse, to say that because he didn't say he is for gay marriage, MUST mean he is against it, is just ignorant. Again, it's the root of the position that you all claim to be fighting against.
Posted by Tommyfoolery]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:53:24 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Tommyfoolery]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:38:21 -0700 The Stranger
I feel so sorry for his wife. Awesome self esteem booster to know that the only person you get to have sex with for the rest of your life wishes you were a dude. The most illuminating aspect of this story maybe the sexism in Mormonism that pushes marriage so hard at women that they will even accept marriage to gay dudes, instead of being single too long and risk being alone forever? Maybe she is a lesbian so their tepid sexual interest is reciprocal?

Posted by cminmd]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:52:40 -0700 The Stranger married at city hall. We've been together for years, we're buying a house together, we're raising a family together. Anyone who insists that we're "civilly unioned" because we choose to do those things outside a church can go fuck themselves.

If you want to add religion to your marriage and family that is certainly your right, but that doesn't make the rest of us "less than."
Posted by I Hate Screen Names]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:41:29 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Amanda]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:30:03 -0700 The Stranger
No, actually, I'm not hung up at all on the issue of language. The absolute simplest solution is to open marriage to everyone. Easy, done. The only people getting "hung up" is people (like yourself, it seems) who are clinging to an imaginary conflict between religious rites and societal/legal rights & recognitions.

If you had your way, my husband and I would not be married because we are atheists. Forgive me if I take that personally. You do NOT have a right to infringe on OUR right to be married.
Posted by wxPDX]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:26:26 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Marrena]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:06:32 -0700 The Stranger