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      <![CDATA[One more thing----is anyone else just a little spooked by the red dick in the Smitten Kitten ad?
        
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      <![CDATA[@272, re: @268: Oh my GOD------?!?!? A burger dildo!!! LOL!!!<br />
Boy, that gives a whole new meaning to "meat"!<br />
Wherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre's the BEEF?
        
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      <![CDATA[@ 268, EricaP: LOL! It Does! It looks like someone took five lbs. of hamburger and made a cock and sack out of it. Who knows? Maybe the hamburger dildo is a thing of the future! Do you want onions, lettuce and tomato with that, or would you just like it dry? LOL! Cheers On EricaP! See you 'round! :-)
        
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      <![CDATA[@261 nocutename: Thank you for making another excellent point! I forgot about the exaggerations that make satire the quirky art that it is.<br />
Well, Jenny, wherever you are, you certainly did fool me. Congrats!
        
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      <![CDATA[I grew up in a libral household. But, I was shy about sex topics when I was fourteen.  I knew about toys, materbation, etc.  But, there was no way that I would have been ready for my own toy at that age.  The aunt has to be extreemely careful about imposing her own experiences on her niece.  If I received a vibrator and lube at fourteen, it would have scared me, and tainted my idea about sex in general.  I was simply too emotionally immature for that kind of thing at that age.  And so is this person's niece. So what if this person had her first sexual experience with an outside object at fourteen. It doesn't mean her niece is going through the same thing. I want to tell her to stop pushing her own values and experiences about sex on this fourteen year old girl. It's none of her business. Let the girl have her privacy. She could still be embarassed to buy her own tampons for God sake!!!!
        
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      <![CDATA[Slightly off-topic, but is anyone else ever get weirded out looking at something that looks like raw hamburger shaped into a phallis? I know it's a sex toy and all of that, but it looks kinda gross. How 'bout an advert for Ben Wa Balls instead or something? ;-D LOL! Cheers. :-) ;-)
        
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      <![CDATA[RED ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!    To the "concerned Aunt"...your question alarmed me.  I would have been traumatized and MORTIFIED beyond articulation, to have ANY adult treat my budding sexual curiosity in such an invasive way. OMG!  A dildo???  I think, respectively...as I hope you are a caring and concerned Aunt, rather an adult than getting a voyeuristic thrill from your niece...because that would be indicative of incestuous, child predator sort of behavior.  I'm fully grown myself, and would laugh if a good friend gave me a dildo...but OW!  No, thanks.  I prefer a good old fashioned electronic device..or better yet a combo of the device and the "real thing."  My BF is WAY better than anything I could ever buy!!!   This question freaked me out, I confess....and the matter of fact way it was replied to, also gave me concern.  Keeping in mind, I'm new to this site as of TODAY!!!!!  PLEASE AUNTIE DEAREST,  Stay out of your niece's not-old-enough sexuality.  The internet wasn't around when you were a kid, I'm guessing but it is today.   She can get any information she needs from her friends or online.  But if you are just concerned...just let her know, as I do with my beautiful 5 year old niece, that her Auntie is there for her if she ever wants to talk about ANYTHING and that she can feel safe with asking you whatever you want...and keep it just between the two of you...so she can have an adult she can ask anything to!  I have an Aunt I adore (I adore them all!) but she is closer to me than the rest, because she makes such an effort to always be there for me!  She makes me laugh so much!  I can't imagine my life without her.  She's like a second mom!  So good luck, I didn't mean to come on too strongly, if you are just a very involved Aunt.  If that's the case I apologize for being a bit rough.  But if you are like me, you'll understand how terrifying the world can be for children...and all of us!  Have a wonderful day everyone!  :)
        
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      <![CDATA["Getting your niece a dildo is a sure-fire way to ruin a good relationship. No kid wants this. Her sexuality is private". <br />
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it is also nascent, and it's hers.
        
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      <![CDATA[@260:<br />
All in a day's . . .<br />
You know, cockyballsup says he doesn't think it's particularly good satire, but I think if it fools people (and rest assured, if it fooled you, then it fooled others), then it's pretty decent satire.  After all, satire points out the inherent absurdity of an existing situation by distorting or exaggerating it just the tiniest bit.
        
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      <![CDATA[EricaP, mydriasis, nocutename, and cockyballsup,<br />
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Thank you all for posting. In retrospect (why is it after the fact for me so often? Must be the hormone imbalance! Not enough chocolate, lately--I apologize), I realized AFTER emailing an angry letter to TheNewYorker Magazine that Jenny Allen's entry for this week's "Shouts and Murmurs" was supposed to be a satire. What makes me particularly nervous about such material aimed to poke fun is that religious nuts, Republicans, and shamefully ignorant misogynist pigs like my ex tend to take that shit law-enforcing county mounty seriously.<br />
Note well taken. From now on, I will skip the "Shouts and Murmurs" column in the future.<br />
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I wonder if I'll get repercussions from TheNewYorker editors for asking "Who is Jenny Allen, and why do I feel like beating her up until she barfs up a son??" ?
        
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      <![CDATA[Getting your niece a dildo is a sure-fire way to ruin a good relationship. No kid wants this. Her sexuality is private, and it's none of your business. She doesn't want to "become a woman" on a stage, and she sure as hell doesn't want YOU thinking about her sexuality. If she opens the door, then you'll know she's ready. Until then, let it be HER thing.
        
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      <![CDATA[@auntie grizelda, it is supposed to be satire, but I don't find it to be especially good satire.  Actually, most of the time I am disappointed by what passes for humor in the Shouts and Murmurs column.  Maybe it is cultural (I don't often find so-called British humor funny either), but I almost always find myself asking how it is possible that, given the class of magazine they are, they couldn't do better than that.
        
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      <![CDATA[Let's accept for a moment the notion that there are 14 year olds out there for whom a dildo might an appropriate gift.  What signs would we look for in that young teen to distinguish her from the teens who would be horrified to receive such a thing?  After all, there's no one single age at which children are deemed okay to stay home by themselves without a babysitter.  You look for signs that they're making good decisions, aren't afraid, and will be fine.  What would we look for in a teen that would say she's ready for a dildo?    WTT, you've told us about yourself in your signature that you wanted toys too, but you've told us nothing about your niece.  Tell us, so we can understand better.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ Griz<br />
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Oui, it's definitely mocking our societies deification of moms. I found it pretty funny. Of course the not-funny part is how true it is (that this kind of belief is commonplace). So I can understand why it would be an upsetting read for you, satire or no.<br />
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Personally, there are few people I hold in higher regard than people who make a conscious choice not to reproduce especially if that choice is due to the awareness that they would not make fit parents.
        
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      <![CDATA[@auntie grizelda: "Shouts and Murmurs" is the title of all New Yorker humor pieces.  They're frequently satire.
        
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      <![CDATA[@253, Jenny Allen is making fun of Ann Romney...Note the article's tongue-in-cheek attitude: "The boys still send their underpants home to be ironed, and I FedEx sanitary napkins to the girls when they forget their periods, but otherwise they are independent adults, and a credit to their country."<br />
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    <author><![CDATA[auntie grizelda]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Okay, Dan and everybody who's even remotely interested: I KNOW I'm the reigning queen of "Juuuuuuust a Little Off Topic", but what the FUCK is up with the "Women Who Aren't Subservient Baby Machines Aren't American" bullshit lately (see "Shouts and Murmurs", 09/17/2012, <a href="http://thenewyorker.com/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://thenewyorker.com/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://thenewyorker.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TheNewYorker.com</a></a></a>)??<br />
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I'm 48, pre-menopausal, and loopy as a loon without chocolate, so who cares whether or not I ever have a truckload of kids, right? Is the U.S hellbound in becoming a terminally misogynous police-state?<br />
EricaP, mydriasis, Crinoline, Eirene,...? What's your take? If Jenny Allen's submitted article was supposed to be a joke, then I find it in very  poor taste for those of us gals who, for whatever our reason(s), chose to remain childless, and I know I'm not the only one out there.
        
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      <![CDATA[CIGGG, get an electronic cigarette. they come in flavours and won't give you cancer.
        
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      <![CDATA[@245 <br />
"because I know her well, I think I know the best way to handle this with her"<br />
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Glad to hear that you have a plan and you're confident she will appreciate the gift. If you decide to come back and let us know how it went, I'm sure many people would be interested.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[CDN]]></author>
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It seems like you missed the message. I had a stepmom with a very similar attitude and information as you, and I'm saying it freaked me out. <br>
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That is great if your niece is confident and open to share enough with you that getting a sex toy for her seems like the most normal thing to do. Many posters mentioned the missing information on your niece and her personality make it difficult to say how appropriate advice is. <br>
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 I fail to see how, as you say, that you're living in a very liberal, progressive culture, there would be any need for you to make a move like this at all. People who know how to use the internet, as it seems this next generation does, can find their own sex toy. Are you really confident she wants non-penis shaped toys just as you happened to?<br>
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If you actually do it please let us at least know how it goes. There were a significant enough minority of women who posted on here who would have loved one at the age, it just happens to be far less than those of us who cringe at the thought of an adult relative doing something like that at a sensitive stage. The creep factor of what you asked about is way too big for a bunch of total strangers posting with limited information to ignore.
        
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