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      <![CDATA[Hello,<br />
my name is Miss Georgina peckett, I'm from USA.<br />
I want to inform you all that there is a spell caster that is genuine and real.I never really believed in any of these things but when I was losing Gilbert, I needed help and somewhere to turn badly. I found consultant.kalakuta spells and i ordered a LOVE SPELL. Several days later, my phone rang.Gilbert was his old self again and wanted to come back to me! Not only come back, the spell caster opened him up to how much I loved and needed him. Spell Casting isn't brainwashing, but they opened his eyes to how much we have to share together. I recommend you if you are in my old situation to try it. It will bring you a wonderful surprises as well as your lover back to you. The way things were meant to be. you can contact the spell caster on-- kalakutaspells@gmail.com he's very nice and great.<br />
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      <![CDATA[<br>
i just want to share my experience and testimony here.. i was married for 6 years to my husband and all of a sudden, another woman came into the picture.. he started hailing me and he was abusive..but i still loved him with all my heart and wanted him at all cost?then he filed for divorce..my whole life was turning apart and i didn't know what to do..he moved out of the house and abandoned the kids.. so someone told me about trying spiritual means to get my husband back and introduced me to a spell caster?so i decided to try it reluctantly..although i didn't believe in all those things? then when he did the special prayers and spell, after 2days, my husband came back and was pleading..he had realized his mistakes..i just couldn't believe it.. anyways we are back together now and we are happy..in case anyone needs this man, his email address prophetsalifu@gmail.com, his spells is for a better life. again his email is prophetsalifu@gmail.com
        
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      <![CDATA[THIS IS A NON-ISSUE. AS A SMALL CHILD, MY TWO BROTHERS AND I OFTEN ENJOYED OUR FATHER'S EXTENSIVE ADULT-FILM COLLECTION. IN OUR FAMILY HOME, MY FATHER'S ADULT-FILM COLLECTION WAS ON FULL DISPLAY IN OUR DEN.<br />
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ADULT NUDITY SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM FOR SMALL CHILDREN. FALSE CLAIMS OF "pedophilia" IN THE MEDIA HAS "CLOUDED" THE ABILITY TO REASON IN THE MINDS OF "POLITICALLY-CORRECT" ADULTS.<br />
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      <![CDATA[@albeit: <i>No doll, I'm not your wife.</i><br />
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I figured that out when you started talking about golden showers, which aren't my thing. The "come in the eye" story, on the other hand, could easily have been written by her.
        
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      <![CDATA[@seandr:<br />
Sorry, I didn't want to disillusion you. <br />
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I just liked it because it was the least prejudiced (pro or con) view on the making of porn I had ever seen before.
        
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      <![CDATA[Humiliation comes under discipline in BDSM, not under dom/sub, as I understand it.
        
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      <![CDATA[@186 seandr<br />
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No doll, I'm not your wife.
        
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      <![CDATA[@gnot: I'd be grateful for any insight lesbians have to offer. I wish I had some lesbian friends who would dish about women with me, the way gays and straight girls talk boys. <br />
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@migrationist: I watched about 30 minutes of that movie you suggested before I turned it off, curled into fetal position, and wept. Assuming that movie is representative of the San Fernando porn factory in general, I doubt any woman could possibly have an orgasm under any circumstance within a 3 mile radius of that city. Frankly, I'm shocked the men manage to pull it off. <br />
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@albeit: Read your story and thought, "Wait a minute, what's my wife doing in the Savage Love comments section?"
        
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      <![CDATA[@171 sanguisuga<br />
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'when you pee on your lover, yes, that is a degrading act. If you're into that, then fine. As a straight woman, I do not get the kink of humiliation and degradation. I just do not comprehend how that can be sexy in the least.'<br />
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It's funny, I didn't feel like I was humiliating him.  He asked me to pee on him after he told me how sexy it was.  I had never done it before, but I could tell he was really into it.  To me it's a harmless kink to explore and indulge.<br />
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But I agree with you, I'm into power play, but I am not into humiliation or degradation.   That's not sexy.  At all. <br />
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I would never get naked with a man with that as his modus operandi.
        
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      <![CDATA[@183 - Exactly.  I might kneel to my lover because I want to give myself over to him, but if he says, "on your knees, bitch", well, the evening is over.
        
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      <![CDATA[180/sanguisuga: <i>As a straight woman, I do not get the kink of humiliation and degradation.</i><br />
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I'm a straight guy and that doesn't appeal to me either. I like dominance and submission, but more like dominance-lite and submission with 50% less humilies.
        
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      <![CDATA[159/alguna_rubia: <i>I think that it is true that some of the things that are extremely common in mainstream hetero porn are things that the majority of women don't like (the ones that come to mind immediately are the "face-fucking" oral sex tropes, hair-pulling during doggy style, and coming on the face).</i><br />
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161/nocutename: <i>Speaking only for myself, a straight woman, I like all the things that alguna rubia mentions in post #159 as things "the majority of women don't like." I like them a lot.</i><br />
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nocutename, as you went on to note, you weren't presuming to speak for other women. I'd bet that, although you and some other women love those things, alguna is right; the majority of women don't like those things. If you're a guy who's really into, for example, coming on a woman's face and you meet a woman who not only tolerates it but loves it, you probably feel like you won the lottery.
        
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      <![CDATA[Has anyone seen Caligula?  I think it was made in 1977 or so.<br />
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It was so great to see normal bodies in the orgy scenes.  No ink, pumped up, plastic surgery, just naked natural bodies.  With full bush.<br />
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I remember thinking  'Wow.  The naked body is so beautiful in it's natural state'.
        
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      <![CDATA[@171 - when you pee on your lover, yes, that is a degrading act. If you're into that, then fine. As a straight woman, I do not get the kink of humiliation and degradation. I just do not comprehend how that can be sexy in the least. So, yeah, facials are out. To me, face-sitting is a little more about power-play. And since I'm the dominant one, well, that suits me just fine.
        
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      <![CDATA[@gnot, albeit, re porn -- I watch het porn as if it were a drag show, all camped up. Of course it's all fake (and much of it I can't watch), but when I find something fun, it's because they're just throwing themselves into the performance with exuberance. We play along at home and it's like being at a silly orgy. <br />
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Gay porn is much hotter, for me, but I'm not sure if that's because you lose the (goofy) women or have extra hard cocks. A little of both. And a lot of it is surprisingly friendly, yes, gnot @173, and shows how the het stuff is more about dominance and less friendly.
        
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      <![CDATA[Albeit,<br />
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You get what you seek. Today you have a wide diversity of porn stars. Young, old, big, small, beautiful, plain, ugly, any race you want. You are what you watch.<br />
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      <![CDATA[@171  If the facials were in the context of dominance/submission porn, then being about power and submission wouldn't be an issue. But they're everywhere, in porn scenes that are presented as being about normal sex with no power/submission aspect at all.<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[@172 gnot<br />
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I have found that in commercial porn the men look like Jersey Shore douchebags (GTL) and the women look like pneumatic drag queens.  it's like taking a regular woman and giving her the 'monster truck' treatment:  the most aggressive extreme of femininity.  Maybe men subconsciously are turned on by the drag queen/she-male look?  It's crazy cartoon-ish.<br />
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Neither of which I find sexy.
        
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      <![CDATA[seandr - maybe watch some porn with a female friend and have her translate for you?  Tell you if the girl is cumming for real or not?  Even more fun/accurate with lesbian friend!
        
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      <![CDATA[@173 - It's also really really rare to see porn sex where the woman is truly in charge (I don't mean domming, just truly in charge, getting what she needs the way she needs it).  Guess it doesn't sell well.  But it should.
        
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      <![CDATA[@172  re: gay porn (above): by that I'm not saying it's less extreme, less degrading or less hardcore.  I'm saying that there just seems to be more, I don't know, respect?  Equality?  Everyone's in it for a good time?  I don't know, it's subtle, but it's there.  EricaP?  Thoughts?
        
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      <![CDATA[@115  I'm a girl.  Also, try just watching the girls face in porn.  Or listening to it without watching it.  Not all guys seem to be able to tell when she's faking it.  Women can easily tell, which is probably why you don't get as many female porn watchers.  It's the vast vast majority of the time.  Porn stars lie about this because they know they are more marketable if buyers believe they actually enjoy the work.  It is rare (1/100?) that I find porn where the woman is actually into it.  And I'm only watching amateur stuff so my odds should be better than that.  Some women do seem to like the display aspect but even those tend not to get off.  And the cunnilingus in porn generally is just godawful.  Annoying as hell training high school boyfriends out of this bullshit.  I've only run into one guy under twenty who seemed to know that's not what orgasming or even happy women look like.  There is a lot of implicit anger in porn too (not talking violence, that can be fun).  Gay porn (guy on guy) less angry, more tender in general.  Which is weird, right?
        
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      <![CDATA[@165 Nocutename<br />
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I don't know.  I've never talked to my friends about facials, so I don't know if they object because they find it degrading or misogynistic.  <br />
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After my failed facial experiment, my boyfriend showed me some facial porn he thought was hot.  First of all, I'm down with porn, but most of what I see is a total turn off.  What's the opposite of a hard on?  A hard off?  So the facials he showed me just looked stupid and fake.  And all the girls on their knees yelping and begging like a dog waiting for it's 'treat'.  What a gross hard off.<br />
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But how are facials any more degrading than when I pee on my lover (in the bathtub of course)?  Or when I sit on his face?  These are both positions of power and submission.
        
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      <![CDATA[@154 Erica P<br />
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Yikes.  That sounds horrible.  And uncomfortable.
        
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      <![CDATA[@168: Thanks for the info.  I just assumed that the burning feeling meant that the foreign entity must be acidic!<br />
        
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