http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/11/09/jews-the-other-white-people Comments On: Jews: The Other White People by Goldy en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 22 May 2013 06:15:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
You clearly care a lot about being Jewish, but you are posturing and acting out. Can you say you actually can truly relate to black people as fellow humans or are they a symbol for yourself of the "other", and you want to be close to that? You don't need outside groups to help define what you are and what you are not, what is outside, what is establishment. If you know who you really are as a Jew then you have all the information and self-awareness that you need, but you are not there yet.

Instead of being defensive and trying to find fault with what I have written, try to understand what it means.
Posted by Molting my klipah]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:04:03 -0800 The Stranger Obama in not a proponent of civil rights, not at all what so ever. He is an authoritarian centrist who's anti free speech, anti fair trial, anti gun and killing American citizens in direct conflict with the bill of rights.

Ironically he is perhaps the worst president we have ever had when it comes to civil rights.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:46:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by hitchcock]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:32:54 -0800 The Stranger Posted by livebio]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:41:18 -0800 The Stranger

Posted by crone]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:27:35 -0800 The Stranger Posted by jt]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:14:25 -0800 The Stranger Posted by venomlash]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:09:32 -0800 The Stranger Posted by JerryBear]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:59:27 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Cascadian Bacon]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:43:29 -0800 The Stranger @7: We've been pretty insular in Europe, the Maghreb, and the Nile-to-Oxus region, partly because of our religion. We are, genetically, distinct from our Gentile neighbors. Not that we were racist about it, but most people in Europe didn't want their kids marrying Jews, and most Islamicate nations espoused a sort of immiscible multiculturalism that tolerated everybody but tried to keep them with their own kind.
@8: Word.
@17: Being a good friend includes having the courage to tell someone that they're making a bad choice, ya ding dong.
Posted by venomlash]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:17:45 -0800 The Stranger Posted by seandr]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:55:14 -0800 The Stranger Of course, most Jews are technically white.

This reminds me. I just came across this page yesterday: 15 Black Celebrities Who Are Jewish.
Posted by cressona]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:13:50 -0800 The Stranger overwrought, fear-based campaign for the Jewish vote this year, as if (A) American Jews only cared about Israel, (B) American Jews are primarily Likudniks, and (C) American Jews are stupid enough to believe that Barack Obama is steeped in an anti-Western jihadist world view.

I see Dems' continued strength with Jewish voters as a combination of (A) American Jews still identifying ourselves as a minority, as Goldy writes, and (B) what stinky writes @10: I suspect that educational level correlates strongly with vote for the dems and that Jews have a higher educational level than average. Also, a higher percentage of urban dwellers.

Does anyone have a link for how Obama did for whites with a college degree or a post-graduate degree? He may not have won that demographic, but I'm sure he did a lot better there than he did with non-college-degree whites.


Posted by cressona]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:12:17 -0800 The Stranger
Jew-day-ay-ay-oh...
Posted by TLjr]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:39:52 -0800 The Stranger some people can rise above their past history of being persecuted, it is not a golden guarantee towards enlightenment.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:38:10 -0800 The Stranger
Which brings us to Newt Gingrich.
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:27:25 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Garfield]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:22:01 -0800 The Stranger
Many American Protestants are better friends of Israel than many Jews.

And Judeo-Christian is a cultural heritage; one many Jews have rejected.


Posted by bgy878]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:14:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by andrew]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:25:44 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Pope Peabrain]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:50:11 -0800 The Stranger
Culture, yes, I can agree with that, because one can enter or exit a culture as one wishes. For example, even though I'm not deaf, I could immerse myself in the deaf community and identify with their culture. I could say I'm part of the deaf culture. But I couldn't say I'm deaf.

Race implies something you're born with that is unchangeable. I'll never be part of the black race, or asian race. I'll always be white. If I had any kids with a white woman, they'd always be white too. No matter what.

Catholocism's not a race, christianity's not a race, islam and muslim are not races, and judaism isn't a race (in my unprofessional opinion). Those are all cultures (and beliefs), but not races. Anyone can enter and exit them as they wish.

Irish isn't really a race so much as just the location someone was born. Like being a Mainer. Just because someone was born in Maine doesn't mean that's their race.
Posted by Urgutha Forka]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:33:39 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Afreet]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:22:30 -0800 The Stranger landsleit voted for that gonif Romney.
Posted by N in Seattle]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:21:32 -0800 The Stranger
I don't feel like a race.

It's cultural (Goldy often says he's a "culinary" Jew, and I know exactly what he means). In fact, it's a number of cultural traditions; Ashkenazi like Goldy and me have a very different set of traditions than Sephardim. And there are other Jewish cultures as well.

Posted by N in Seattle]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:16:27 -0800 The Stranger
Posted by stinky]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:14:33 -0800 The Stranger