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      <![CDATA[#17, 18<br />
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I'd put up my Kent East Hill 98030 against any in the state.<br />
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You can walk down 104th Avenue and see people in garb from six different continents.<br />
        
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In some sense density could be a factor that affects diversity negatively.  If say, only whites cluster in the newly proposed SLU high rises.<br />
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      <![CDATA[98118 used to be the most diverse zip code in the country. Then white people learned that 98118 used to be the most diverse zip code in the country. Now it's not the most diverse zip code in the country. Gentrification 101.
        
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      <![CDATA[What @11 said. Most whites are still fiercely tribal, refuse to speak Spanish, and are not mixing in the working world with everyone else. Is that a bad thing? Let them argue with their empty chairs.
        
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      <![CDATA[@13 an African communist intellectual is not going to mug you. ... he'll use the state for that. <br>
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He might, however, take pity on you and pretend to engage you in the 'actual diverse experience' you so desperately long for. It'll be like the petting zoos you enjoyed as a kid.
        
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      <![CDATA[@12 based on the article's author, it's not just "uptight, predictable, dull guilty white liberals" that value diversity. in your hasty excitement to be an idiot troll, you probably didn't catch that.<br>
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in DC, columbia heights area, there's a bit more integration. the assimilation works both ways there. more like a synthesis. i could see that happening here over the next generation or so, as the different communities become a bit more established.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA["it's surprisingly rare to have an actual diverse experience. "<br>
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Maybe that's because only uptight, predictable, dull guilty white liberals think about that and seek those out.  Or maybe they just don't like your white ass.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[I have no idea what the point of the article is.  Many immigrants are still fiercely tribal, don't speak English, and are not mixing in the working world with others.  Is that a bad thing?  Forced assimilation is sort of ugly.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ 7, I'm mostly tweaking Charles for the fact that his twin notions of "the future" contradict one another. But thanks for bringing the reasons why into the discussion.<br />
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If development of more dense apartments and condos comes to Rainier, it will be because developers have concluded that they can make good money doing so. That will likely mean selling to whites and some Asians, but not African Americans or Hispanics. It would probably push out most of the current residents, including whites, because the ones who live there probably can't (or don't want to) afford Capitol Hill rents and mortgages. So yuppies will move in and diversity will go down, but density will go up. It's a conundrum for Charles because it doesn't mesh with his vision.<br />
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Now, perhaps if theirs a boom in Rainier, it will come at the expense of greater Capitol Hill and the displaced residents of Rainier can move there. THEN... Charles' vision will be realized. That would be great!
        
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      <![CDATA[As a DC transplant to Columbia City, I'm sort of surprised by the self-segregation of this area. Even though all demographics live amongst each other, there are places for white people, places for black people (one place is exclusively for blacks), places for east asians, and places for east africans (and even some west african spots). While we might see each other walking in the street, it's surprisingly rare to have an actual diverse experience. It's great to feel good about ourselves about the demographic constitution of our neighborhood. But it isn't real. It's for show. At least for now.
        
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      <![CDATA[I really enjoyed living in South Park.  White Center is almost like Amsterdam in the diversity of cultures....
        
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      <![CDATA[@1: I suspect that is largely because high density, centrally located, well known neighborhoods tend to be expensive, and many racial minorities have higher rates of poverty (and lower income in general) than caucasians.  It would be interesting to compare the sizes of racial populations in these neighborhoods to the sizes of each race's upper-middle class or higher population.<br />
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There is probably also a "gravitational" effect.  Due to historical reasons, certain neighborhoods have larger numbers of certain populations and thus more services catering to them, so members continue to settle there.  Think Capitol Hill for the LGBT (and hipster :P) community, or the ID for Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, etc.
        
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      <![CDATA[Not to worry Charles, the way white liberals are flocking to the Columbia City Bakery for an experience with the 'other', expect the southend to look like the northend soon. Lots of white liberals with cute adopted Haitian and Chinese kids for diversity.  It's why they built the train. You can follow the diversity to Skyway.
        
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      <![CDATA[I love South Park. It's my new favorite neighborhood.
        
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      <![CDATA[Detroit is very diverse, over 80% black! I wish I could live there.
        
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      <![CDATA[The incoming congressional freshman also show the faces of diversity. Except it's only on the Democratic side. The Republicans are almost all white men.
        
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      <![CDATA[Charles, as a proponent for Tokyo-style density, it's telling that you skipped this observation, which is the same paragraph as your preferred quotation:<br />
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<blockquote>What do these neighborhoods have in common? Although many, like Queens Village and Dorchester, are within the city limits, <b>they are not the densest, most central, or best-known neighborhoods.</b></blockquote>
        
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          Posted by <a href="http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Profile?oid=1500464">Matt from Denver</a>]]>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:54:33 -0800</pubDate>
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