http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/11/16/what-she-said-ej-graff-on-the-death-of-savita-halappanavar Comments On: What She Said: E.J. Graff on the Death of Savita Halappanavar by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Fri, 24 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Fri, 24 May 2013 12:00:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
oh dear.
still beating this poor dead horse?

this had nothing to do with compassion, or the lack thereof.

It was medical malpractice.

you and Danny can ignore the facts and try to spin some tale about evil xtians out of it but you just look silly. and reveal yourselves to be vicious, spiteful and totally lacking any respect for the truth.

but speaking of compassion.
compelling someone else to pay more taxes than you are willing to pay yourself in order to fund your pet social projects is not compassion.
it is extortion.

what you voluntarily do with your own time and resources to help others, THAT is compassion.

and study after study shows that conservative xtians give much more of their time and resources to help others than liberal humanists.
even after contributions to their churches are factored out, they give more in absolute terms and as a percentage of their income.

liberals talk the talk.
conservatives walk the walk.

hypocrites.
Posted by your empty words are tinkling glass]]> Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:05:33 -0800 The Stranger
Because we're really machines, tools, there to serve some abstract "good" and no more. You get the code, the commandments, and that's it. Obey them, get to heaven, end of story. That's the life of a robot. And that's really the greatest tragedy here, where the human doctors and nurses choose to be nothing more than robots, obeying a useless code, instead of looking into their hearts and understanding that we're all in this together.

I believe I know what was going through their minds as they moved about the hospital while Savita screamed in agony: Nothing. They had shut off.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In]]> Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:51:40 -0800 The Stranger
One way Danny expresses his particularly nasty virulent form of anti-religious/anti-Catholic bigotry is by posting news stories and misrepresenting the facts to cast the church in a hideous light.

Eventually The Truth is exposed but the credulous Cult Members have already soaked up and regurgitated The Hate by then...
Posted by Bigots like Danny deserve your Sympathy but not your Support]]> Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:55:24 -0800 The Stranger Posted by shannon01]]> Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:24:41 -0800 The Stranger Posted by stating the obvious]]> Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:46:10 -0800 The Stranger
I wish there was LESS religion in this stupid fucked up world. Religion makes heartless killers out of intelligent people.
Posted by sissoucat]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:54:17 -0800 The Stranger Posted by venomlash]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:02:26 -0800 The Stranger
Republicans apparently would be fine with this woman dying - even if they knew the baby would die as soon as it was born. Because Life.
Posted by Free Lunch]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:41:06 -0800 The Stranger Posted by squirrely girl]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:00:53 -0800 The Stranger
Is there evidence that they weren't? Even if they were, she wouldn't have survived. You can't treat a gangrenous limb with antibiotics, and that's pretty much what was going on inside her body.
Posted by keshmeshi]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:29:53 -0800 The Stranger
what does sex-selection abortion that kills 25% of girl babies strike you as?
Posted by and please don't strike Tad's bits...]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:28:06 -0800 The Stranger
Jesus fuck! You'd think he's never heard of raging mobs of differing religions slaughtering each other or anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_o…
Posted by gromm]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:20:07 -0800 The Stranger Posted by 7th grade biology]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:19:07 -0800 The Stranger
you are near the truth....

Protestant societies rule.
Asian nations that followed the lead of Protestant nations (Japan, SKorea, etc) also rule.
Catholic European societies come next. (regularCatholic, followed by the Eastern flavors...)
then come the poor little brown folk unlucky enough to have been colonized by Catholics.
but we're guessing your travels have been somewhat limited.
otherwise you would realize that Muslim countries are even shittier than the Catholics.
and subSarah Africa brings up the rear.(except for the parts where Protestants settled...)

(please note that as societies adopt Secular Humanism they begin to deteriorate....)
Posted by kawabunga]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:15:23 -0800 The Stranger Posted by venomlash]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:56:21 -0800 The Stranger No it doesn't. Biology tells us that life began roughly 3.5 to 4.0 billion years ago, and life that is recognizably human began somewhere between 2 million and 250 thousand years ago. There is no way to draw a sharp line between the life of the parents alone and the additional existence of the progeny. You arbitrarily place the boundary at conception, when you might just as easily justify placing it at meiosis, or parturition, or the end of embryogenesis, or the maturation of the progeny.
Again you misrepresent science in order to give your opinions a semblance of credence.
Posted by venomlash]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:41:49 -0800 The Stranger
socialized medicine with a dash of malpractice thrown in...
Posted by you're welcome]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:40:29 -0800 The Stranger Posted by thatsnotright]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:31:44 -0800 The Stranger Posted by I have always been... east coaster]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:24 -0800 The Stranger Religion ruins everything.
Posted by OutInBumF]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:38:15 -0800 The Stranger
And, Savita was originally from India. The stupidity of anti-choice trolls never fails to amuse me.
Posted by keshmeshi]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:35:44 -0800 The Stranger
"Such deaths are still happening in anti-abortion countries today. In Argentina, the health ministry estimates that one-third of maternal deaths come from illegal abortions. According to the International Planned Parenthood Federation:

Across Latin America … [t]he restrictions placed on access to legal abortion have not made the practice scarce. In Argentina, an estimated 40 percent of all pregnancies terminate in induced abortions. In Peru, that proportion is 37 percent, and in Chile 35 percent.; Most other countries in the region, including Mexico but also the United States, maintain a 20 percent ratio—one induced abortion for every 4 live births.

In fact, if you look at criminal law as only one of many potential policy instruments to affect the social phenomenon that is abortion, it would appear to be a very ineffectual choice: where abortion is illegal, it is equally—if not more—prevalent than in jurisdictions where it is legal. Also where abortion is illegal, it is much more likely to be unsafe. “You get overwhelmed by desperation,” a thirty-five-year-old mother of ten children told me in Argentina. “You seek all the ways out, pills, anything. But if there is no way out, then you take a knife or a knitting needle.”
http://prospect.org/article/dying-pro-li…
Posted by judybrowni]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:27:08 -0800 The Stranger
Whereas "Fetal heartbeat" has been spelled out legally, so the hospital followed the murderous anti-abortion law, as it was written.

The only liablility involved is that of the morally bankrupt forced birthers.
Posted by judybrowni]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:15:29 -0800 The Stranger
And if Ireland indeed has a "Health of the Mother" exception, then the medical staff likely have some liability. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I can't imagine it'll go well for the Irish.
Posted by Chris Jury]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:10:26 -0800 The Stranger
"Savita was lucky she got to live as long as she did, because she might have been aborted in India for being a female fetus."

Wow, a lot of illogical "might have beens" there to unpack.

But factually, Savita's parents DIDN'T ABORT, they lived the pro-life position, unlike the supposed "pro-life" law, that killed their daughter.

Her parents' reward for that "pro-life" position?

While mourning the grandchild who didn't have a chance at life, they must also mourn for their daughter murdered by an anti-abortion law -- along with any other grandchildren she might have given them.

There's one logical, and heartbreaking, "might have been."
Posted by judybrowni]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:09:17 -0800 The Stranger