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      <![CDATA[@6 - Present participles like "woman-abusing" don't imply the present tense at all. You have to look elsewhere for context. Example:<br />
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"My aunt, the last Navajo-speaking member of my family, died when I was three." No one would respond to that with, "But she's dead. How can she be Navajo-speaking?"<br />
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Try this: in the headline here, replace "woman-abusing" with "ear-biting." <br />
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In that case, the comment thread wouldn't be all, "HE DOESN'T BITE EARS ANYMORE!" because everyone would understand that it referred to the infamous incident, just as I assumed that "woman-abusing" here referred to his infamous PAST of abusing women.
        
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      <![CDATA[@14 Probably the only funny thing about being married to Robin Givens.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think he's abused some men, too.<br />
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In his defense, he gave us a great name for the enormous bong we made in college.
        
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      <![CDATA[He just did his show in my home town. Apparently he tells some very funny jokes about beating his first wife. True story.
        
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      <![CDATA[@11 - I apologise for the snarky tone of @12 - posted before I saw your response.
        
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      <![CDATA[@8 - go for it, pal. You've apparently got a hard-on for this subject, anyway. The segue was especially weak, though, since neither Sheen nor Brown ever did time for their crimes.<br />
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But I really am tired of defending someone who is, in the eyes of society, not a reformed convict and vegan Buddhist, but instead the Once and Future Rapist. David, if you haven't already, you should really consider signing up to volunteer at a prison sometime. You're a journalist, I'm sure they'd be happy to let you teach a writing class once a week (your weak segues aside). Maybe actually try to understand what the system entails.
        
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      <![CDATA[9: You're right, my framing of this 21st-century endeavor (which might very well hash through the rape conviction) of Tyson's is shitty. At 2:45 PST, I'll take this item down, and post about the event again tomorrow.
        
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      <![CDATA[riz is right.  "Tyson" is a stunning film.<br />
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<a href="http://seattle.bibliocommons.com/item/show/2604770030_tyson" rel="nofollow">http://seattle.bibliocommons.com/item/sh&hellip;</a><br />
        
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      <![CDATA[@5 - apparently we have very different definitions of what 'shit' entails. Or the definition of 'hype' for that matter. But whatever. Thanks for confirming, once again, what a retribution crazed society we are - I suppose your ideal world, Tyson would've just gotten 'Convicted Rapist' tattooed on his face instead.<br />
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No one, especially not me, is saying to forget he raped someone. I am saying, if a person has shown clear signs of growth, rehabilitation, and repentance since their punishment, you can focus on the way the person behaves now, rather than casting back twenty years to their worst moment to define them.
        
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      <![CDATA[6: It's true, I used "Woman-Abusing Celebrity" instead of "Convicted Rapist" in the headline so that the segue involving Sheen and Brown would work. Maybe I should change it?
        
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      <![CDATA[i highly recommend the uncomfortable documentary 'tyson'  if you can't afford or don't want to see the play and are still interested in him.
        
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      <![CDATA[@3 Exactly.  How long does this man have to pay for his crime?  He served his time.<br />
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@5 You didn't cite his record. You used <strong>present tense</strong> in the headline "Woman-abusing"  not "former" or "convicted" - the implication of which is that Tyson is still abusing women.  Of which you offer no evidence only innuendo. <br />
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Your clearly attempting to use Tyson as whipping post for all abusers out there. That's some pretty yellow journalism right there, David.
        
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      <![CDATA[3: Acknowledging his record doesn't seem like "giving him so much shit." I also think he should be able to move on, do shows, whatever. That's why I hyped his show on Slog. (But I'm not going to pretend it's not a show by a convicted rapist, and, I presume, neither is Mike Tyson, as it's a story about his life journey....)
        
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      <![CDATA[Amen, #3
        
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      <![CDATA[And yet, I'm sure David Schmader could write several thousand words about how the prison system in this country actively encourages recidivism and is more focused on punishment, rather than reformation.<br />
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David, unlike most women abusers in this country (and certainly unlike Chris Brown or Charlie Sheen), Mike Tyson went to prison (three years), lost his career, renounced violence, and embraced a pacifist lifestyle in word and deed. This is as close to the literal definition of 'reformed' as I can think of. I'm perfectly fine with Mike Tyson having a career and making money again.<br />
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Again: He was punished, and then he reformed. On what basis do you give him so much shit, especially considering the other wastes of flesh still crawling around that will never face justice?
        
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      <![CDATA[I think I'll just watch some "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HebReKH82kE" rel="nofollow">Oswald Bates</a>" <i>In Living Color</i> skits on YouTube instead. Same difference, really.
        
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      <![CDATA[Is he going to be eating people's ears?
        
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