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      <![CDATA[@44 The lady has bullshittia. Whatever other medical problems she has, pale in comparison !<br />
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@38 jujubee80 I've found that, when in a less than ideal mental health, the responsible thing to do is say from starts : "Look, I like you a lot, I can see something happening between us, but be aware that I'm treated for so and so and that I'm currently not stable relationship material. I'll quite understand if you'll pass this opportunity. But if you don't pass, bear in mind that whatever will happen, will probably be short term ; I'm not able to deal with real relationships for now". <br />
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And run from people who tell you that they trust you and will stick around for you however sick you are, until you're changed - those people are only looking for a providential sick to cure, in a narcissistic way.
        
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      <![CDATA[The number of different "personality disorders" people are proposing just highlights the essential uselessness of such labels; many PD share similar "symptoms" and do not, in fact, say much of anything other than that a patient is especially difficult.<br />
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But I ESPECIALLY resent people calling this woman "borderline" when the hallmark traits of splitting (alternating between loving and hating people) and problems with object constancy are not present in this letter.<br />
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Whether or not amnesia is possible for any mental illness, or side effect thereof, please leave diagnoses to the trained professionals, mkay?
        
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      <![CDATA[Why does it matter (for the purposes of this question) if the meds are giving her amnesia? Even she isn't arguing that the meds made her do these things in the first place, so either way you're dealing with a self-aware cheater who may or may not remember cheating.
        
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      <![CDATA[Most people who have mental/emotional illnesses who aren't dicks will tell you that you are never obligated to date or be friends with someone because of their mental/emotional illness. I think people should be open-minded about mental illness - don't assume every person with Aspergers is going to act like Sheldon Cooper, for example - but having an illness definitely doesn't mean you have to put up with shitty behavior in a relationship.
        
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      <![CDATA[She could have saved herself the "liar" tag had she disclosed her condition sometime prior to allowing it to screw up the relationship.
        
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      <![CDATA[@38 - why should he? We're stupid enough to drive his traffic even when he's foisting old shit on us. <br />
Matter of fact, I think I will just walk now.  nothing but new content for me and I will only check in occasionally.  sorry, dan but there is a limit to suckerdom.
        
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      <![CDATA[Yes, Dan- whatever happened to "on hiatus until October"?  Please come back to SLLOTD soon.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Adding another vote to RUN.  <br />
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I spent 4 years with a guy with DID trying to help him, trying to 'save what we had'.  It was a living nightmare and I learned a hard lesson (many actually)--crazy is contagious.  After awhile their bizarre stories seem normal-if you have to do mental gymnastics to make yourself (temporarily) believe your partner isn't cheating--they are cheating.  <br />
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This isn't a blanket statement not to date those with mental issues (hell I'm on meds for anxiety and depression now).  But it's really necessary for people to be in a healthy place to be relationship material.<br />
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God I hope Dan finishes the book soon.....
        
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      <![CDATA[I know it's been said already among the commentors, but I'm gonna say it anyway: It doesn't matter if she's lying or not, either way she's too broken for you to be able to have a happy, stable and loving relationship with her. It's just not gonna happen. Also: She should have put all of her crazy cards on the table much sooner, people have a right to know what they're getting into.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[my boyfriend has bipolar and would never cheat on me]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I resent the fact that people with Bi Polar disorder are being roped in to this. Stop trying to diagnose her. She just has the case of the CPOS syndrome.
        
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      <![CDATA[@11, Yahtzee! She's borderline as hell.  Open and shut; run for your life.  <br />
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People with bipolar disorder can be hypersexual, impulsive, and downright foolish when they're manic, but I've never seen or heard of someone forgetting that many things.  She told you to check her email because she thought you wouldn't really do it; she was wrong; now she's lying her ass off and then playing the victim.
        
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      <![CDATA[Has anybody else ever read "The Good Soldier"?
        
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      <![CDATA[(It's an old letter, so obviously any advice offered should be taken as advice to anyone in a similar situation.) Yikes, add compulsive lying to her list of maladies and then fucking run. People don't need to be perfect but really should be in at least reasonable working order before pursuing new relationships, as it's not particularly fair to drag other people's lives down into the mess that is one's own life (in the event it is a mess).<br />
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Also, I've never felt happier to have the type of bipolar disorder (type II) with the hypomania and severe depression.
        
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      <![CDATA[For when I speak these words, you may well suffer an attack of explosive amnesia.
        
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      <![CDATA["Who you're gonna believe, me or your own eyes ?"<br />
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Run.
        
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      <![CDATA[Look up Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Unbelievable what nonsense these people will make up, often for no apparent reason. <br />
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RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
        
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      <![CDATA[Look up Narcissistic Personality Disorder. RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
        
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      <![CDATA[As someone who has also dated a bipolar girl who had a cheating problem, my advice to you is to get out now. My ex would lie about cheating, and when I found out and I would ask her what was going on or explain I found her actions to be hurtful, she'd say "You just don't understand what i'm going through!" ... worst thing was, I let her get away with it for years.<br>
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I learned the hard way, but you shouldn't have to. Trust is the most important part of a solid relationship, period. It's clearly not something she can give you (even if she legitimately wanted to, she has just proven she's not capable of it), and trust should be something you consider to be non-negotiable.
        
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      <![CDATA[Cheaters, when caught, will almost always resort to bold-faced lying for as long as you will let them. So there is a very good chance that she is lying, and will continue lying. Besides, forgetting an action doesn't necessarily mean the action was unintentional. Whatever, the whole thing is a mess, and she lacked even the decency to own up to her behavior. DTMFA
        
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      <![CDATA[Just for the sake of argument, assume that she is telling the truth, the whole truth (well, as much of it as she can remember, anyway), and nothing but the truth.  Would that make those activities suddenly acceptable in your eyes?  Because that's the bottom line:  in all probability it's going to keep happening.  If you aren't okay living with that, then you are not the right person for her, and it frankly doesn't matter whether her explanations as to WHY it's happening are god's own truth or convenient lies.
        
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      <![CDATA[Indeed, do it now if you haven't done it already... Those are just excuses.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:43:16 -0800</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Are we almost done with reruns?
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:21:36 -0800</pubDate>
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    <author><![CDATA[six shooter]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[@21 -- Don't get caught up in diagnosis. What your doc calls borderline personality disorder might be a completely different set of problems than what someone else's doc calls borderline personality disorder.<br />
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Thank you for working as hard as you sometimes must to behave decently. I appreciate all the people in the world who try to not be assholes.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:19:47 -0800</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Whatever the reason why she did the things she did, you are going to have to make a decision if you can learn to accept her crap or to dump her ass.    By the sounds of it she needs to find someone who is more open minded, and you need to find someone who doesn't do that kinda stuff online.     There is no third option where she promises you she won't ever do it again.     There seems to be even a difference in values where she doesn't think cybering is all that wrong and you do.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Xanax<br>
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I happen to have BPD and I resent you telling people to run from people like me.  This girl is nothing like me at all.  I have never cheated, or lied and claimed I have amnesia - I just  get sadder more easily than most folks.  Not all people with the same illnesses are the same. I'm still friends with all of my exes and they have nothing bad to say about or time together.
        
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