http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/12/04/department-of-terrible-ideas-now-you-can-download-guns-off-the-internet Comments On: Department of Terrible Ideas: Now You Can Download Guns Off the Internet by Paul Constant en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 22 May 2013 04:00:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
Well said. This whole thread is ridiculous.

I'll never understand my fellow liberals' visceral (and irrational) fear and loathing of firearms.
Posted by CPN]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:55:23 -0800 The Stranger Gun-control laws are essentially meaningless when you can make a gun in your house.

Gun-control laws are essentially meaningless already when you live in a country with more guns than people.

Hysterics about someone printing a gun given this reality is a waste of perfectly good hysteria.

I mean, how many people work at The Stranger? And none of you can spend 10 seconds googling? None of you has been AWAKE the last several decades? Washington state has long had among the most lax gun laws in the country. Any one of you could walk into any number of sports stores and gun shops and walk out with a loaded firearm. And you actually think people are going to fuck around BUILDING their own guns to circumvent our nonexistent 'gun control' laws?

Give me a fucking break.

It's already an open-carry state. Anybody can strap a loaded .45 to their belt and walk around downtown, whenever they feel like it, no license or anything. If you're going to freak the fuck out about guns all the time, at least spend some time educating yourself on the matter. Sheeeeesh.
Posted by Captain Wiggette]]> Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:03:34 -0800 The Stranger Posted by harbinger]]> Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:22:24 -0800 The Stranger Del-ton, Not chrome lined, 1 in 9 twist, 4140...Yuck

Here is a far better Dissipator for the money
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php…

It is really too bad the BCM doesn't make a dissy, I would be on that shit like white on rice.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-16-…
Posted by Cascadian Bacon]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:30:30 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ipso Facto]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:44:36 -0800 The Stranger The cheap 3 D printers are suitable for making cereal box prizes, nada mas.

A decent 3D printer these days is more like 30 grand, not five hundred.

But the fact remains- even a usable plastic gun like a Glock requires lots of metal parts. and 3D printers are currently not able to make metal parts good enough. And the 3D metal printers of today cost a lot more than the ones that print plastic.

It will be a long long time before printing parts from metal is cost competitive with stamping, forging, and machining. You can buy a gun, new, for under two hundred bucks.

Posted by CATSPAW666]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:36:20 -0800 The Stranger
What I meant was that if you're testing a new device - in this case, one whose whole point in being is to make an explosion to hurl a projectile at supersonic speeds - you probably don't want it anywhere near you, should something go awry (as these guys expect). Though I was not aware that this particular weapon was designed in such a way to mitigate any injury in such a scenario. Thanks for the info.
Posted by Knat]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:44:39 -0800 The Stranger
If you were going to make a plastic derringer, a low pressure cartridge with roots in the black-powder days, like a .32 S&W, would be a LITTLE less suicidal.


Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 08:24:44 -0800 The Stranger
I can do more carnage with a 4 dollar, untraceable gallon of gasoline than anyone could do with an poorly aimable, unstable, low capacity zip gun.

The pearls can go unclutched for now.


Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 08:23:03 -0800 The Stranger Gun-control laws are essentially meaningless when you can make a gun in your house.

Swell. So now can we have a conversation about why this country is so damn violent, that doesn't involve getting into an argument about gun control?
Posted by Bruce Garrett]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:57:55 -0800 The Stranger
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/951250/…

Notice the large piece of cro-mo steel forming the barrel? You can't make that in your computer lab, kidz.

For only 200 bucks, you can go over to Big 5, buy a Marlin .22 semi-auto rifle, and be shooting people TODAY. In an hour. The .22LR is not a powerful or stylish cartridge, but I'm not volunteering to be shot with one. It has killed a lot of humans.

And a lot more squirrels. Which I hear are tasty.
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:50:34 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:28:49 -0800 The Stranger
Paul's post reads like a fellow who has cancelled his free 30 days with AOL over his concern that people can be anonymous on the internet. We have some technology. It can do some new stuff. We're still counting on you to NOT put gasoline in your super soaker.
Posted by courner]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:06:34 -0800 The Stranger
Paul, you should know better.
Posted by randoma]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:30:57 -0800 The Stranger Rich kids might print off a 'zip gun' but in all honesty what's preventing them from poison blow darts? It's a non issue. The only irritating thing is that the worst troll on earth keeps trying. Dude, you're basically the Chone Figgins of Slog.
Posted by CbytheSea]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:41:12 -0800 The Stranger http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbullet…

3D printing doesn't bring anything new to the table, really.
Posted by doceb]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:29:46 -0800 The Stranger press release video by Cody Wilson, the college kid leading this group.

It looks like this kid has some serious narcissistic tendencies and just wants to play with expensive toys and get his name in lights for a while.

Honestly the video looks like he's trying to reenact one of those cliche scenes from a sci-fi movie where the mad scientist first begins to hatch his ominous plan. It's quite unintentionally funny, really. (That background music sounds an awful lot like the soundtrack to the movie Sneakers.)

He lists a few platitudes about the benefits of 3D printing in general, but doesn't make a meaningful case for why the ability to print guns would ever be a good thing.

"Defense Distrbuted as a project I think is about the preservation of human dignity, in a world of accelerating humanity. It's about collapsing the distinction between digital information and material goods. And ultimately it may be about hat original salvific promise of the free Internet."

Huh? C'mon, this is a performance art project, right?


Posted by Ipso Facto]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:13:39 -0800 The Stranger
Now you are starting to understand.

A gun is a very, very simple machine. In the event of a total ban the easier guns to make tend to be the ones we would most desire out of the hands of criminals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%82yska…
Criminals do not follow the law by their very nature.

@41
That is how you shoot a rifle. The cartridge itself is held between the proof tested and Magnetic Particle Inspected (in a quality barrel) chamber and a proof tested MPI leaving the shooter in no danger. Even if for some reason the cartridge went KABOOM the AR15 design funnels the blast out of the Magazine well away from the shooters face.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:52:33 -0800 The Stranger Solidoodle is an entry level 3D printer that goes for $500. I don't know if that printer is precise enough to make a gun, but a "quarter million dollars" is surely an overestimate for one that is.
Posted by Ipso Facto]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:44:27 -0800 The Stranger
Most if not all new technologies seem to be a double-edged sword, I think it's up to good people to push them as positively as possible so that people's imaginations don't get too dark and manifest terrible things that may come of new technology. Ah, fuck, maybe people will imagine terrible things and bring them to fruition anyway..

This technology is only going to get more advanced, it is just a baby right now. Bigger & faster 3D printers, more detailed ones, capable of printing more materials / taking more and more filaments
Posted by i'm pro-science and i vote]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:14:11 -0800 The Stranger
It aint easy, it aint cheap, and nimnuts who think they can make a working gun by downloading this are going to be left holding their pants up when a guy with a rock steals their belt.

3D printing is a toy, still, and realistically, usuable, printable guns are probably 15 years down the road, and even then, we are talking a quarter million dollar machine that uses twice the value in consumables as you would pay for a working gun at Cabelas.
Posted by CATSPAW666]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:50:13 -0800 The Stranger putting them right next to their face as they're firing. Darwin will sort them out.
Posted by Knat]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:58:46 -0800 The Stranger
Goddamit! We done got beat again, Sloggers! Shit!

Do you even read the fucking comments, pathetic excuse of a troll? YOU SUCK AT THIS.
Posted by emor]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:14:13 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Stranger'sWorstNightmare]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:48:21 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Chronos Tachyon]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:45:22 -0800 The Stranger