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      <![CDATA[@12<br />
<em>people who want things to be fundamentally easy to do for non-experts</em><br />
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This is why I switched to Macs.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm disappointed by this. I was hoping Microsoft would be rewarded for actually innovating in user experience, rather than just copying like they always have in the past.<br />
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The Windows Phone has spectacularly innovative design. Ballsy not to just knock-off Apple like Google did. Sounds like it doesn't translate to bigger screens, though.<br />
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Now Windows 9 will be hard to distinguish from the Mac operating system. The only giveaway will be the hideous laptop it's running on.
        
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      <![CDATA[@37: lol
        
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      <![CDATA[I wouldn't touch the current release of Surface tablets. WinRT is Win8 with all the stuff you might actually want to use Windows for stripped out of it. It's a less-stylish Microsoft clone of iOS and there's no goddamn reason anyone would want that. It was a stupid fucking move and if Microsoft gets burned for it, they damn well deserve it.<br />
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      <![CDATA[My eyes just glazed over while reading this thread.
        
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      <![CDATA[(and think of how happy the IT department will be when they can start automatically updating and maintaining your phone software)
        
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      <![CDATA[I bet quite a few companies will upgrade to Windows 8 once they figure out their employees like the idea of seamlessly linking their phones and tables with the corporate infrastructure.<br />
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No way my iPod is updating our group's Projected Test Results access database.<br />
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Copy of the Joe's killer hiring protocol powerpoint to read while on the plane? Yes sir, I think that will look great on my ultraPC.
        
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      <![CDATA[<i>" Microsoft is an important part of the area, and I want the company to succeed."</i><br />
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Great.  And as far as "local economy" goes, I would too.  But you probably don't have to support Microsoft products... They are endlessly frustrating and weird.<br />
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They need to stop pretending they are an "innovator" ... they are constantly chasing superior products:  Socl? right. Zune? crap. Surface? yawn. Bing? what?<br />
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The Xbox was the single best thing they invented, and Microsoft Word 5.1 was the best word processor they ever put out.  Everything else has become messy, complicated, and annoying.  They seem to have a policy of reinventing the damn wheel in order to create a monopoly market (NetBEUI? Winsock? :P  ).    <br />
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Neither of their last two 'chairmen' (Gates & Ballmer) have been "seated in the Tao", as Lao Tsu offered as the sage advice for any ruler.  As a consequence, Microsoft is not "seated in the Tao", and is -essentially- an autistic kludge.
        
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      <![CDATA[@43 I was just about to bring those games up! The height of my computer gaming days (aside from the original Starcraft). BG2 was perfect...Icewind Dale; not so much. Torment was pretty great (though I found the expansive dialogue combined with exp. points for going through it all was a bit tiring).<br />
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Skyrim is beautiful but it can get boring and rather methodical...and no real consequences for doing bad things! My character should be fairly reviled for some of the things I've done... <br />
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Oh and...my work computer still uses Windows 2000 (and a database system released in 1994 called Paradox). Just to stay on topic...<br />
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      <![CDATA[Surface is dead.<br />
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Win 8 is dead.<br />
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Long live Windows 9 - and bring back the Start button!
        
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      <![CDATA[@42: One of the best examples for me is the difference between Mass Effect and Mass Effect 3.  <br />
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Mass Effect 3 was damned impressive graphically, and the gameplay was smooth and very polished.  The shooting was fun enough, enemies were varied enough to keep it interesting.  It was too easy, but playing on the Insane difficulty helped.  <br />
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But at the end of the day, it was just another third person shooter with bare-bones RPG elements.  No rewards for excellent play, hardly any rewards for exploration/completion, an underwhelming lack of weapon/armor variation or improvement system.  Just point and shoot, maybe change your ammo type if the situation warrants.  Did not even need to depend on companion skills.  No reason not to put all squad points into shooting ability.    <br />
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Whereas Mass Effect was not as polished, the controls were not as smooth, and the enemies had less variance.  <br />
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But there were choices to be made.  Do I use that power knowing it will kill my accuracy? Do I focus on the Geth charging me (enemies in Mass Effect 3 NEVER charged, and were big pussies), or the Krogan with he rocket launcher whose health is rapidly replenishing? Do I need the Mako for this (no, figure out a strategy to win and get that bonus XP), Should I try to find higher ground and snipe?       <br />
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I never had these choices to make playing Mass Effect 3.  The best strategy from the first mission to the last  was always, equip Avenger assault rifle, wait in cover for enemies to get out of cover, repeat.
        
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      <![CDATA[@21 and @42, MMOs are annoying when they require either grouping or solo play. Sometimes I want to play the game myself, and sometimes I want to play in a group, and there should be a way to accommodate that organically. I don't know of a single MMO that handles that right. They've also got problems with the subscription model and game design process encouraging grindingly repetitive collection or kill quests over actually entertaining content. And sometimes quests are just too hard for people (like me) who play occasionally rather than constantly to finish, without adequate options to scale the difficulty. There are other problems but those are the big ones for me.<br />
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As for Microsoft, they had the right idea with the Windows 8 products but it looks like they didn't execute correctly. And really, the problem with execution is with their management structure and their performance review system, which reinforce bad product development practices. I don't think even good ideas will help save them unless they change how they attract, manage, reward, and retain employees.
        
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      <![CDATA[@10<br />
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I'm anxiously awaiting the release of Baldur's Gate for iPad. If it does well, they'll rerelease Baldur's Gate 2 and (be still my heart) Planescape:Torment, probably the two best CRPGs ever released. On a similar note, I'm really looking forward to Project Eternity. There's still a few of old, good kind of games being made. In fact, I'm glad they're so far and few between -- no way I can spend a ton of time playing video games like when I was 15.
        
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      <![CDATA[@21: Get out of here! MMOs requiring you to group up (read as: DEAL WITH PEOPLE) is aggravating. The one MMO I play, SWTOR, can be mostly soloed until you hit the level cap, and almost nothing in the central storylines requires grouping.<br />
@30: Battletoads was the shit. One of the few games I bought as soon as it came out. I still play it, even though the graphics look a little outdated now.<br />
I understand what you're saying about complex gameplay. I like having multiple options in-game. Do I run in close and spray lightning out of my gun? Do I hang back and open up the cannon's heavy-hitting attacks? Do I toss a sticky grenade and stockstrike the enemy over the head while he's trying to get it off? Or do I go all-out and wipe up a whole group with a mortal volley?
        
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      <![CDATA[Microsoft is having a major identity problem. Their stack rank system sows mistrust among employees, people make safe decisions, and over time, their strategy becomes nothing but catch up. But the really alarming thing to see from Microsoft now, and their apologists in this very comment thread, is the arrogance against the end user. "Hey, I'm using Windows 8 and it works for me!"<br />
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It doesn't matter if it works for YOU. It matters if it's widely accepted and adopted as a new paradigm in emerging computing environments. WIndows Phone sales are flat. Windows Tablet sales are non-existent and interest is nil. When Microsoft shrugs off the newly emerging markets and disparages the "stupid users", they're speaking exactly as IBM used to rationalize twenty years ago, just before Windows killed OS/2. And you know what happened? Everybody put a happy face on IBM but the fact is, they never were the same. They lost control of the API, the developer network, the technology market, and the entire computer kingdom. They're pretty much nothing but a bunch of consultants now and Microsoft is on that same path. You would think that Microsoft would recognize this repetition of history but they don't, and you know why? Because all of the folks who battled IBM either left or were driven out of the company.<br />
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This scares me and I don't even work for Microsoft. You local Microsoft haters can hate all you want but if you're also property owner keep this in mind - if Microsoft fails, your own property investment will collapse. Everybody, even the local haters, have a stake in Microsoft succeeding.<br />
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      <![CDATA[ugh, lose not love...
        
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    <author><![CDATA[ryanmm]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Microsoft has long been trending towards becoming the software equivalent a utility company--selling massive quantities of necessary-but-boring software to other companies and the government.<br />
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Windows 8 is an effort--probably a futile one--to get back into the growth parts of consumer/phone/tablet touch space.<br />
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Even if they love all of the consumer side they still will still have tens of billions/year in reliable revenue for another decade or two.  But they'll be as drab as IBM.<br />
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I like the idea of splitting the company into three or four pieces...put xbox/phones/tablets and other consumer stuff into one, put office/windows/exchange into another, bing & internet stuff into another.
        
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      <![CDATA[The Yahoo article takes everything to a worst case scenario.  But it's built off of many kernels of truth.  <br />
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Many many places will skip Windows, 8 as they did with Vista.  <br />
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Windows and Office are the breadwinners, but in 2017, or 2022, will their marketshare (vs Apple and Google) be the same? Really?  <br />
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Their (very nice) phone has potential, but is more and more noticeably, not getting anywhere.  <br />
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The successful Xbox is a tiny part of their revenue.  <br />
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For their big push for the future, the Surface, they already had to cut their orders in half.   I think one of the Surface tablets only gets like 4.5 hours of juice before needing a charge. <br />
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They just raised some licensing fees, likely in order to keep the books from showing more decline.  Although long term, this will just just drive away customers who see this treatment.<br />
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Linux servers &gt; Microsoft servers, and more than ever.<br />
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Hey guys, I know there are counterpoints to all these things.  And yeah, anything is possible.  But on almost every front, Microsoft is either losing mindshare, marketshare, or relevance.  And with nothing on the horizon to stop the bleeding of any of those.  Don't look at the short game, the long game is where to predict, and the long game on all these points....well it doesn't look so hot.  <br />
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I have to repeat Paul here, where I really really want them to do well as a major local employer, and am also worried.  Hopefully they can find a way to do what IBM did when Microsoft beat them in the 90's....transition to something else less front and center, and last a long, long time.
        
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      <![CDATA[@23, You need an authorization form from HR before you can be assigned your stick, and I can tell you right now I'm not going to approve it. Even worse, I'm taking away your 24" monitor and giving you the last 15" CRT from the basement for your subordination. Yeah, that's right -- and a used ball mouse, too, with ten years of someone else's skanky hand sweat jammed up inside it.<br />
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As I'm sure you are aware, software decisions are not made by users OR IT, and instead are made by elderly managers who believe everything they read in their junk mail. So the future looks very bright for slow, poorly designed web apps from here on out. Preferably ones that require Internet Explorer 7.
        
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      <![CDATA[Anecdote, not data: There were guys from Microsoft demoing Window 8 when I passed through SeaTac last week, and they couldn't get anyone to stop and check it out. And that's in an environment where a substantial portion of people have time to kill and not a hell of a lot to do.
        
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      <![CDATA[MS sucks.  To put in an edit on a footer now takes so many clicks; I have to turn off so many stupid fucking autocorrect features; I have not even had time to learn the last set of revisions to office from what, 2010?  many of which were retrograde things that made it too god damn complicated, too many choices, too many windows, my god, I only use the same format for page numbers in every fucking document yet it takes insert click, hand on mouse, scroll down with mouse, click on bottom right side option, then move mouse back up to view, then hit page view, it's like nine fucking movements to put in the same fucking page numbers used in every fucking document.  Because 99% of all options I never use.  So no, I don't want to have to spend two weeks every two years learning new operating system or new office layout whatever, just leave it the fuck alone so we have time to even learn what's already there!
        
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Just hire Hodgman again to play the part of the PC and all will be swell. <br />
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      <![CDATA[@31 95 was far from solid, frequent illegal operation errors anyone?
        
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      <![CDATA[Remarking on what <b>Venomlash</b> and <b>Theodore Gorath</b> mentioned, my home computer is used primarily for playing games. Yeah, I use it to work from home occasionally, and I use the internet too, but I wouldn't need an actual computer for either of those.<br />
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I don't see Windows 8 as a good gaming OS. Gamers don't play touch screen games, people who play nothing but 'angry birds' on their touchscreen phones aren't gamers, they're just bored. A big, space-hogging, memory-burning OS is not ideal for gaming.<br />
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Unfortunately, like someone else posted, I'm no longer in the video game buyer demographic. I don't play madden, or any MMO. I like strategy games, old-school turn based games, and a few older, well-made shooters. Video game companies are abandoning the PC market altogether and moving entirely to console gaming. So be it, they've lost me as a customer with that, but I don't think it'll hurt them any.
        
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      <![CDATA[The points made above about the quality of MS OS offerings skipping a generation are by and large spot on.  Windows95, 2000, XP and 7 were very solid, whereas Win98, ME, and Vista were shaky at best.  From the standpoint of someone who has done official Windows tech support, Windows8 looks like a dressing up of Windows7 with a flashy-touchy overlay.  The Metro "live tiles" interface is taken straight from their Windows 7.5 phoneOS, which got rave reviews in many circles. (I thought it was a battery waster.)  They've basically married their currently successful touchOS (phone) with their currently successful desktopOS (7) and released it at the start of the Holiday Quarter.<br />
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If you need a touch screen interface for a desktop PC, this might be a good idea.  Otherwise, you can wait for the next MS OS.
        
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