http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/12/11/congressional-republicans-quietly-hoping-gay-people-will-go-away Comments On: Congressional Republicans Quietly Hoping Gay People Will Go Away by Paul Constant en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:45:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss I was curious if you ever considered changing the page layout of your blog? Its very well written.
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Posted by Victor1122]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:24:39 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Clayton]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:38:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Clayton]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:16:44 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Sir Vic]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:28:18 -0800 The Stranger
So Bush/Cheney gave lip service to a constitutional amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman.

Clinton signed DOMA into LAW. Talk about a craven decision for short-term political gain while disregarding the long-term damage to gay lesbian families.
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:36:17 -0800 The Stranger
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Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:42:01 -0800 The Stranger Posted by AFinch]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:38:35 -0800 The Stranger You have a good idea and I'd like to add to it. NOM should also advocate laws that would compel all unmarried women to get married to the father before the birth of the child, and laws that will prevent divorce between any two people until their youngest child is twenty-one. In this way, NOM will fullfill its goal of insuring that every child is raised by its mother and father.
Posted by Clayton]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:21:53 -0800 The Stranger
Cheney is a heartless, soulless, war machine in skin. Since his 'position' on gay marriage didn't result in anything substantive when he had incredible opportunity to do so, he shouldn't be compared to Obama, who has taken action, no matter his past positions on it.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:09:41 -0800 The Stranger Please note that in 2009, Dick Cheney (a) was no longer in elective office, and (b) had gone through a 2004 reelection campaign in which W promised a constitutional amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman. The fact that Bush/Cheney never pursued this policy is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the ticket used the promise of such a policy to mobilize "the base," that part of this strategy was encouraging Republican legislators throughout the country to get so-called "marriage protection" amendments in as many states as possible, and that Cheney sat by silently while all that damage was being done. On the same day that Bush and Cheney were being reelected, literally dozens of constitutional amendments were passed at the state level defining marriage as one man and one woman. Dick Cheney never said a word.

It is possible, I suppose, that Cheney woke up one day in 2009 and said, "Wow--all those anti-gay planks in our 2004 platform could have hurt my daughter, Mary, and her wife and child. Mary's family might even have been damaged by all the amendments at the state level. I never thought of that before! I'm going to issue a statment right away saying 'I believe equality is equality for everybody.'"

That's possible, but not probable. What is probable is that he made a craven decision to keep his silence for short-term political gain, in the meantime disregarding the long-term damage to gay lesbian families, including his daughter's.

Am I demonizing Cheney? No. He did it to himself.

And don't even get me started on the two wars for which he and W. are responsible.
Posted by Clayton]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:08:36 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Mattini]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:14:32 -0800 The Stranger
The Country Club & Business GOP will take the Libertarians with them, and try to peel off centralist Democrats. They won't get the votes. The Big Jesus wing is the one carrying out the Primary Executions of centrist/moderate GOPers and they are, generally succeeding: Dick Lugar? Srsly?
Posted by AFinch]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:11:44 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Original Andrew]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:59:57 -0800 The Stranger Posted by PCM]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:52:17 -0800 The Stranger
It's quite likely there'll be a move by Big Jesus to make the Teabaggers a legit third party, grabbing the far right of the current GOP and the bulk of the libertarians.
Posted by Sir Vic]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:46:16 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Joe Szilagyi]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:31:46 -0800 The Stranger
They have this problem on nearly every single issue group they confront: even if they embrace immigration reform, they will not unlock a trove of socially conservative latin voters; if they back away from anti-gay policies, they are not going to suddenly get a horde of gay libertarians flocking to them. On the downside, if they let go of these issues - the ones which are slowly killing them - then they do lose, almost immediately, the guaranteed votes of the fired-up "base". The GOP is in a lose-lose on this issue.
Posted by AFinch]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:24:45 -0800 The Stranger
A political party is essentially a group that lumps itself together under a single basic viewpoint. It is called a "party platform," and the republicans chose one that discriminates against gays.

This is stupid even for you, so goddamn stupid it must be a joke.
Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:22:10 -0800 The Stranger
@5: You may be happy with just words, but to the people who actually care, we demand more than lip service. Cheney did nothing for gay rights, much against, and his meaningless words are nothing in comparison to his actions.




Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:19:59 -0800 The Stranger Isn't it racist to lump all "republicans" together and ascribe a single viewpoint?

The GOP should like nothing more than for the Supreme Court to call this issue one way or the other so it's "off the books" and the Democrats can no longer use it as a way to entice voters who otherwise would ignore their milquetoast candidates.


Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:15:41 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Hernandez]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:09:55 -0800 The Stranger
Some did long ago:

When asked about Gay Marriage on the View in 2011 Dick Cheney said: “"I think freedom means freedom for everybody," said the former vice president, "and you ought to have the right to make whatever choice you want to make with respect to your own personal situation."
"I certainly don't have any problem with it," he added.

This was way back when Barack Obama still did have a “problem” with it.

In 2009 Cheney said: "I think that freedom means freedom for everyone. As many of you know, one of my daughters is gay and it is something we have lived with for a long time in our family. I think people ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish. Any kind of arrangement they wish. The question of whether or not there ought to be a federal statute to protect this, I don't support. I do believe that the historically the way marriage has been regulated is at the state level. It has always been a state issue and I think that is the way it ought to be handled, on a state-by-state basis. ... But I don't have any problem with that. People ought to get a shot at that."

But of course it would have been hard to acknowledge his support and demonize him at the same time.
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