http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/12/17/guns-dont-make-you-safer Comments On: Guns Don't Make You Safer by Goldy en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Sun, 19 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Sun, 19 May 2013 15:45:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 1. Driving and owning a car is a Privalage. While driving a vehicle you will certanily come across other people driving cars, or pedistrains walking across the road. With that in mind an accident is much more likely. Thus we have insurence, licenses, and other regulations setup for mutual safety.

2. The second ammendment garuntees every citizen the RIGHT to have and bear arms. This was put in the Constitution by our forebearers, to protect the people of the United States of America from not just those who would do us and our loved ones harm, but to protect us from a tyranical government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amen…

3. Conceal carry laws are very specific as to when where and how a firearm is to be handled. Part of which you must pass a weapons handling class, both written, and practical.

4.Your arguement of "Thier right to shoot does not trump our right to live" has no bearing when your right to live trumps thier right to protect thier own lives in extreme situations or that of thier loved ones. Especialy IF (and that is a BIG IF) you are the one that is threatening thier rights to live.

5.The real issue here is the CRIMINAL element. I wish that firearms weren't necessary, but when criminals have them reguardless of laws or regulations (they are lawbreakers afterall) our only Effective defence is to be armed ourselves. You call us evil, selfish SOB's. Well, I name you a fool, a dangerously ignorant fool that would rather see lawabiding citizens become defenceless victims to those who WILL carry guns Illegaly reguardless of laws.

6. Here is one source of information for those of you who wish to check.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/…
It seems that those places with the tightest gun controll policies have the higher gun related violent crimes. If that is not enough here is another.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/23/31…
How about another.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cros…
I am sure that there sources out there that may claim differently, and I am sure you will try to find them just to try to put it in my face (so to speak). So, if you do, at least you are reading and learning a bit about the subject. I think of my gun like a condum. I'd rather have it and not need it thn to need it and not have it. In every gun training/qualifying coourse I have ever taken, Safety is always paramount. 4 years in the U.S.M.C. as a military policeman, and my subsiquent training refreshers after I got out, have always been the same.

7. Last but not least, before you start name calling, insulting, or lying about the Facts (truth is subjective to the individual perception), I suggest you get your story strait. We live in a world that is sadly violent. The government is trying to take away our rights, and in so doing, sparking outrage among those who, have guns and those who wonder which right is next on the chopping block. Once the second amendment is gone, there will be nothing to stand in thier way in taking the rest, because we will be defenceless to stop them.
Posted by Rakier]]> Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:08:31 -0700 The Stranger 1. Driving and owning a car is a Privalage. While driving a vehicle you will certanily come across other people driving cars, or pedistrains walking across the road. With that in mind an accident is much more likely. Thus we have insurence, licenses, and other regulations setup for mutual safety.

2. The second ammendment garuntees every citizen the RIGHT to have and bear arms. This was put in the Constitution by our forebearers, to protect the people of the United States of America from not just those who would do us and our loved ones harm, but to protect us from a tyranical government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amen…

3. Conceal carry laws are very specific as to when where and how a firearm is to be handled. Part of which you must pass a weapons handling class, both written, and practical.

4.Your arguement of "Thier right to shoot does not trump our right to live" has no bearing when your right to live trumps thier right to protect thier own lives in extreme situations or that of thier loved ones. Especialy IF (and that is a BIG IF) you are the one that is threatening thier rights to live.

5.The real issue here is the CRIMINAL element. I wish that firearms weren't necessary, but when criminals have them reguardless of laws or regulations (they are lawbreakers afterall) our only Effective defence is to be armed ourselves. You call us evil, selfish SOB's. Well, I name you a fool, a dangerously ignorant fool that would rather see lawabiding citizens become defenceless victims to those who WILL carry guns Illegaly reguardless of laws.

6. Here is one source of information for those of you who wish to check.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/…
It seems that those places with the tightest gun controll policies have the higher gun related violent crimes. If that is not enough here is another.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/23/31…
How about another.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cros…
I am sure that there sources out there that may claim differently, and I am sure you will try to find them just to try to put it in my face (so to speak). So, if you do, at least you are reading and learning a bit about the subject. I think of my gun like a condum. I'd rather have it and not need it thn to need it and not have it. In every gun training/qualifying coourse I have ever taken, Safety is always paramount. 4 years in the U.S.M.C. as a military policeman, and my subsiquent training refreshers after I got out, have always been the same.

7. Last but not least, before you start name calling, insulting, or lying about the Facts (truth is subjective to the individual perception), I suggest you get your story strait. We live in a world that is sadly violent. The government is trying to take away our rights, and in so doing, sparking outrage among those who, have guns and those who wonder which right is next on the chopping block. Once the second amendment is gone, there will be nothing to stand in thier way in taking the rest, because we will be defenceless to stop them.
Posted by Rakier]]> Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:05:44 -0700 The Stranger
I do not have an absolute right to drive.

Nor does anyone have an absolute right to have weapons.

I want the guys with the power to kill me and my loved ones HIGHLY regulated.

I have had enough of the nonsense from NRA and from gun nuts.

Their "right to shoot" does not trump our right to live.

Period.

Evil, selfish SOBs.
Posted by Stevus]]> Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:43:29 -0800 The Stranger
Mentally ill and criminally insane moonbats have more rights than sane people who make the logical choice to do what is necessary to protect their homes, family, and lives. I own a firearm and I guaran-goddamn-tee you that if anyone breaks into my home, they will leave in a body bag.
Bottom line: If some psychopathic shitbag wants to grab a gun and kill people there’s little you can do to stop it, unless they're lit up by another armed citizen. Banning guns won’t impress criminals; they’ll just be the only ones to have them. The asshole politicians who bitch about gun control usually have armed security details and live in upscale residential areas where crime isn’t much of an issue. Armed criminals deliberately choose soft, unarmed targets. They couldn’t give one shit less about the idea of restrictive gun laws. Every law-abiding American citizen has the right to defend themselves from low life thugs and deranged psychos like Lanza, in spite of the Left’s fatuous politicizing.
Posted by sfcmac]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:39:41 -0800 The Stranger
Mentally ill and criminally insane moonbats have more rights than sane people who make the logical choice to do what is necessary to protect their homes, family, and lives. I own a firearm and I guaran-goddamn-tee you that if anyone breaks into my home, they will leave in a body bag.
Bottom line: If some psychopathic shitbag wants to grab a gun and kill people there’s little you can do to stop it, unless they're lit up by another armed citizen. Banning guns won’t impress criminals; they’ll just be the only ones to have them. The asshole politicians who bitch about gun control usually have armed security details and live in upscale residential areas where crime isn’t much of an issue. Armed criminals deliberately choose soft, unarmed targets. They couldn’t give one shit less about the idea of restrictive gun laws. Every law-abiding American citizen has the right to defend themselves from low life thugs and deranged psychos like Lanza, in spite of the Left’s fatuous politicizing.
Posted by sfcmac]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:36:33 -0800 The Stranger
Switzerland, in addition to high levels of gun ownership, has very restrictive gun regulations. Quite unlike the US.

Shooters target schools for reasons of psychlogy and because, like malls and churches, they offer a lot of potential targets. The fact that many mass shooters commit suicide suggests that they aren't overly concerned one way or another about getting shot by someone else.

I am a good driver, as are many others. Why should we have to pass tests, be licensed, and carry insurance simply because a few drivers misuse their vehicles?

If you are a responsible gun owner you should have no issue with complying with regulations. If you are responsible, you are probably already doing most of the things that regulations would impose.
Posted by Backyard Bombardier]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:21:19 -0800 The Stranger
"With all the news about economies around the world slipping into further depression," many Americans feel worried about the collapse of the dollar, and the same type of economic chaos could ensue that has occurred in Greece and Spain." Should a disaster occur, help may never arrive.

Doomsday preppers have become increasing popular since the hit show of the same name has aired on the National Geographic channel.

"Preppers" believe that strained relations between the world’s financial super powers, news of economies collapsing, outbreaks and pandemics, all add up to more are enough reason to be take disaster preparedness seriously.

Should the worst happen, Doomsday preppers feel that disaster preparedness is their best chance to survive. These people believe they will not be able to rely on the Government to provide safety and food for everybody.

When infrastructure breaks down; food, supplies, and even life giving fresh water can be blocked from reaching victims due to roadblocks, etc., this type of scenario could create a mass panic. Just trying to find food and water can turn the most well respected man in a community into desperate cold blooded thief trying to feed himself."


Posted by PhooBut]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:44:57 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Haley]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:52:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Haley]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:33:26 -0800 The Stranger Posted by venomlash]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:33:00 -0800 The Stranger Posted by cracked]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:40:52 -0800 The Stranger Posted by smade]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:52:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Patricia Kayden]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:22:29 -0800 The Stranger @68: Conjecture, unsupported assertions, and rhetorical masturbation. You are part of the problem.
Posted by venomlash]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:10:23 -0800 The Stranger Posted by cracked]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 02:04:13 -0800 The Stranger
Actually, they're neither facts, nor irrefutable.
Posted by mikethehammer]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:31:38 -0800 The Stranger
1) Much as one wants to be amused at Michael Moore's Tweet, the first victim, his mother, was shot as she slept. There was no chance for her to defend herself with any weapon.

2) As Lanza marched down the halls, he was confronted by several teachers and a duo of the principal and the school psychologist, all of whom were unarmed. All of them ended up shot and killed.

3) Police entered the building just after Lanza entered the classroom, and committed his horrible crime. However, it was at the point that he became aware of the police that he realized the game was over and he killed himself. Like any bully, when confronted with a stronger opponent, he immediately folded. These police were not armed with weapons anywhere near the grade of Lanza's...ordinary pistols.

Putting 1, 2 and 3 together, what we could surmise that even the slightest show of force at any point along Lanza's journey to killing the most defenseless would have caused him to end his spree much earlier.

If you've ever watched webcam videos of store robberies, in many cases, the instant the shop owner pulls a gun or even a bigger weapon than the thief has, the thief runs away. Crime is part acting and theater and criminals are at heart cowards. Adam Lanza was no doubt a coward, who would have been stopped with just the slightest show of force. These facts are irrefutable.

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:36:33 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Backyard Bombardier]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:14:24 -0800 The Stranger Posted by seandr]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:51:00 -0800 The Stranger
She had a pistol ready, but the shotgun sufficed.
Posted by NotSean]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:47:32 -0800 The Stranger Posted by JaxBriggs]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:32:26 -0800 The Stranger
Looked at in the context of history, Mutual Assured Destruction, or parity of weaponry has been far more successful in keeping peace, safety and the prevention of violence than any disarmament strategy.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:08:13 -0800 The Stranger 18 yr Oklahoma Widow with 3 mo Baby Shoots Home Invaders Threatening to Rape Her

2 Men armed with hunting knife.
One had been stalking her before.
9/11 operator says "do what you have to do to protect your baby".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1-Kz3vU5…


Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:05:29 -0800 The Stranger Posted by sirkowski]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:40:41 -0800 The Stranger Posted by pat L]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:35:57 -0800 The Stranger