Comments On: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day by Chicago Fan http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/01/12/gun-nuts-attempt-to-hijack-mlk-day Comments On: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day by Chicago Fan en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Thu, 23 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Thu, 23 May 2013 11:30:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Great70.com
Posted by mas789]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:23:38 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
Of course everyone is happy to throw around various statistics that have been sanitized.
It's easier than looking at the specifics of the shootings.

No one here can name the first (or latest) brown person wounded or killed in Seattle in 2013. Without looking it up.
Judging by the coverage in The Stranger, there haven't been any.
Yet there will be stories posted about shootings across the nation.

Who is shooting whom with what and why?
Posted by fairly.unbalanced]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:06:16 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by originalcinner]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:54:12 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> >can't be tyrants anymore
>omg tyrants halp!

They don't need the guns to kill tyrants. They need them to stay tyrants.
Posted by sirkowski]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:40:38 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
I just read that fox article you linked and couldn't find anything whatsoever intimating that confiscation is being discussed in the legislature. From the article... "On Wednesday night, a state Senate committee advanced two measures to restrict semiautomatic weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's unclear at this point whether the full Senate will take them up before the new General Assembly class is sworn in Jan. 9."

Confiscation absolutely is an extreme fear and your conflating restriction with confiscation should qualify as an extreme concern on your part. I will say that if that mental case from the Charles Blow article could be involuntarily committed and his firearms confiscated, the world be a safer place for it.
Posted by mikethehammer]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:57:39 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
there are already 300 million firearms in circulation in america. that's why the firearm death will continue into the foreseeable future.

what is unique to america is the level of firearm deaths versus our "western" affluence. we have so many hammers laying around that every problem looks like a nail.
Posted by Max Solomon]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:31:43 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by Mahtli69]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2013 06:09:07 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
"These people, a vocal minority, have extreme fears — gun confiscation,...."

Confiscation isn't an "extreme fear" when influential legislators do openly advocate confiscation. Senator Feinstein pushed just such a policy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DKuN2ey…

State lawmakers in IL tried to pass a law that also involved confiscation (sorry for Fox link):

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/…

So no, confiscation isn't an extreme fear, and it isn't just a slippery slope argument.
Posted by Amnt]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:58:15 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Staunch Democrat, John Wayne Gacy, is back in the news.

Sneed is told Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez has given Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart a green light to search for possible victims of serial killer John Wayne Gacy in the Northwest side apartment complex where Gacy’s late mother, Marion, once lived.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/17525…

John Wayne Gacy Was A Democrat

He also immersed himself in organizations such as the Jaycees and the local Democratic party. As a Democratic precinct captain he once had his picture taken with First Lady Rosalyn Carter.


http://mrssatan.blogspot.com/2007/10/joh…

There you have it.

Prima facie evidence!
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:57:27 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
""I fully support your right to disagree strongly and I've been enjoying Slog for a long time because it's a good place to get doses of strong opinions.""

Thing is for me, and maybe I'm stubborn, but most of my opinions of the last 5 or whatever years of reading Slog have stayed the same. I venture to say that's the case for most of us. Who has really switched political parties because of stuff read on a blog? My biggest growth here has been the understanding of struggles felt by gay people (and minorities, women, handicapped, flavor of the day). Although, most of it just harks back to my Christian upbringing - "Love thy neighbor" "Treat others the way you'd like to be treated" and other crap sayings I live by.
Posted by dnt trust me]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:03:02 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
Funny I feel pretty much the exact same way.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:00:28 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
Yea the forward assist always tends to get you in the back while on the chair, makes me kinds wish I had one of the old slick side SP1s, or perhaps a VZ58, I hear Czechnology works well in the snow. I do envy your day on the slopes while I waste the day at work, I spend Monday being "skis in the rain guy".

For real though I do really want to try some back-country Biathlon with moderate power cartridges.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:58:49 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
The Republican Party can go fuck itself sideways, I hope they genuinely go down forever in a flaming embrace with the kleptocrat-coddling, bible thumping, racist, fascist, homophobic douchebags who currently hold sway there.

Which does not put me on Team Blue, who I think is just as empty and craven, willing to do whatever the fuck it takes to get power. I see little substantive difference in regards to civil liberties or the imprisonment/killing of poor brown people under the current crew - slogans and branding notwithstanding. Any of you who trust any of these people and see them as anything but the assholes you couldn't stand in high school who clawed their way into positions of power is bound to be disappointed (best case) many times over - use them as they would use you.

I'm all for getting rid of violence in our society. I genuinely disagree with you about how to do that, and I've blabbed about my ideas on that plenty already. I fully support your right to disagree strongly and I've been enjoying Slog for a long time because it's a good place to get doses of strong opinions.
Posted by Boring Dad is Boring]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:51:39 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by dnt trust me]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:46:47 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by Westlake, son!]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:16:36 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
Don't forget that I'm also "actively rooting" for a default on our debts. Because of how super fun that would be.

Recognizing that we have a Nihilist Caucus with veto power is not the same as "actively rooting" for death and ruin. It means accepting that they've got the votes bring misery down on all of us. And that doing so will be their undoing.

On the other hand, if they step back from the brink, then the killings stop and the economic ruin is averted. And instead Obama can compromise with them and make good progress on several fronts.

I like the compromise option, but if they choose drag the country down with them, at least we can be glad that this is the last time they will get the chance. That's not "rooting for more shootings."

You basically think that anyone who actually believes our gun problem causes shootings is "rooting" for shootings. It's a fact that the pain and shock of these killings motivates the public to solve the problem. The gun nuts want to stick their heads in the sand and hope the shootings stop. That's dereliction of duty.

I have no idea why you posted all those other words about ski trips and video games. Blah blah blah. You really are boring. If you have a point to make, state it. All you're doing is filling up space on the internet with the most long-winded "no, you're wrong" that you can muster.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:13:46 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
Also, I like how in @11 you are more or less now actively rooting for more mass shootings of unprotected people in order to further your political goals. That's a pretty solid point of view and it would be great if you (or someone with equivalent values) ended up in a position of authority after the 2014 triumph.

And as for going outside, I froze my goddamn ass off skiing all day today - last time I try any of that physical, non computer related, unpolitical bullshit any time soon - waaaaay too much sun and humanity for my taste. And I have to say it was super uncomfortable on the lift with my AR-15 inside a ski jacket, I need to work on that...
Posted by Boring Dad is Boring]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:55:05 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
It's also a "fact" that we are a Christian, white supremacist nation that will always have racial inequality, prayer in schools, that will never accept interracial or gay marriage, or blacks or gays in the military. "Facts" are "always" facts, until the day comes when they're not.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:41:38 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by Sargon Bighorn]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:59:58 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by Fnarf]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:50:11 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> gerrymandering is not a "How'd That Happen?!" issue. The Republicans won big in the statehouses in the census year of 2010 while Dems snoozed, and consequently controlled redistricting in the many states where the majority has that power.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk…
Posted by rob!]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:48:34 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
Step away from your computer and go out and form some actual relationships with other humans. There's always somebody will take your bet if you, like, know people.

Don't sit here and bitch to me if this blog is your only window on the world. Go outside.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:31:16 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>
The pain of the '95/96 government shutdown was nothing compared to what's in store, and all of the blame will fall on Republicans. And the public is not going to grow numb to these mass shootings -- they're going to get angrier and angrier. They'll see government inaction -- due to Republican obstructionism -- behind every bloody, wrenching headline.

If the Republicans played it cool, they'd benefit from low turnout. Just keep the wheels of the economy turning, just head off the brunt of the mass shootings. Not rocket science. But the stubborn way they're going, turnout is going to be massive. People will be pissed because all of a sudden they'll notice the lack government in their lives. Not in a good way.


Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:26:16 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]>

Posted by it'slikelottoyougottabeinittowinit]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:25:00 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Gun Nuts Attempt To Hijack MLK Day]]> Posted by Boring Dad is Boring]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:23:49 -0800 The Stranger