http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/01/14/when-icing-the-kicker-goes-wrong Comments On: When Icing the Kicker Goes Wrong by Eli Sanders en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:15:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
Because back then, the coaches actually needed a warning when the half was expiring.

This is essentially the same reason the clock stops on an incomplete pass. They had to go retrieve the ball, and you can not have the clock ticking while you wait, or else teams could burn the clock just by lobbing long balls out of bounds.

There is no actual reason for either to exist now, but they have become part of the fabric of the game, and strategies now revolve around them.
Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:25:29 -0800 The Stranger
I didn't grow up here. I root for the Oilers and I draft Earl Motherfucking Campbell every fantasy season.
Posted by six shooter]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:48:33 -0800 The Stranger Posted by DOUG.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:39:13 -0800 The Stranger Posted by DOUG.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:36:38 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Frank Blethen's vodka distiller]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:01:34 -0800 The Stranger two minute warning?
Posted by six shooter]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:38:21 -0800 The Stranger
I'm fairly sure "icing the kicker" was invented as a way to create an additional slot for advertising.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:20:55 -0800 The Stranger
The Hawks had an amazing season even after holding Wilson back for the first four or five games. Every star quarterback in the league is going to think twice before throwing an egg against Sherman, Browner and Earl Thomas.

This is a team poised to make history. The best part of the NFL? There's always next season.

I had more fun watching the Hawks this year than I have in a decade, and that includes the '05 Superbowl season. Alexander versus Lynch? No question. Hassleback versus Wilson's potential? Whatevs.

Plus, we get to watch the 49ers win the Superbowl now. They're kind of like a home team, right?
Posted by six shooter]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:08:03 -0800 The Stranger
If they claimed before the game they weren't going to allow it, then he's right to ask them to assess a penalty. He didn't get the call but I see no reason for him to let it go without argument.
Posted by serotonein]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:32:01 -0800 The Stranger Posted by biffp]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:14:35 -0800 The Stranger
(And yes, I watch a lot of football.)

Posted by bigyaz]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:08:38 -0800 The Stranger Carroll was hoping to call the TO early enough so that no snap & kick would happen. The Falcons were smart to proceed, though missing that practice kick isn't a good omen. There have been a few cases where the practice kick is good, but the real one misses. It's a last ditch effot, which are rarely successful by nature.

The current NFL wisdom says to call that timeout, since you can't use them after the game. Pete was going by the book, such as it is.

Let's not forget Atlanta coach Mike Smith calling his last timeout to set up the field goal with way too much time left on the clock. The replay shows him running to the official in a panic, not looking at the clock, and calling timeout with 12 seconds left instead of 4. That almost turned out to be the biggest timeout fiasco in playoff history, and it was because of not "going by the book".
Carroll made plenty of mistakes, but the last timeout wasn't one of them.
Posted by Sir Vic]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:05:24 -0800 The Stranger
I think that's more rules than baseball, hockey, basketball, soccer, rugby and cricket, combined.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:00:15 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Urgutha Forka]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:33:22 -0800 The Stranger Posted by CC-Rob]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:20:43 -0800 The Stranger
And I'm not really upset about Carroll icing the kicker. I'm pissed that the defense allowed the Falcons to go 40 yards in 18 seconds (this coming after almost the exact same thing happened at the end of the Seahawks/Bears game earlier this year).

I feel bad for Russell Wilson. That little dude played an AMAZING game, just to be let down by his supposedly vaunted defense.
Posted by DOUG.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:49:43 -0800 The Stranger Posted by tainte]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:38:51 -0800 The Stranger http://www.nfl.com/rulebook ?

They used to have a pocket-sized rulebook you could buy, but I don't think they've released one of those since maybe 2009.
Posted by Ben]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:38:01 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Kinison]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:03:40 -0800 The Stranger
On another note, the NFL claims that icing the kicker does not work at all, except there appears to be a slight (barely statistically relevant) increase in missed kicks during the playoffs when icing the kicker.

However, I would imagine that slight correlation is more the result of small sample sizes and unscientific methods. Or just the fact that more kicks miss in the playoffs due to the pressure and willingness to risk longer kicks.
Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:38:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Goldy]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:23:43 -0800 The Stranger
The fact is, when the kicker is iced, often the snap comes off less than a second after the coach asks the ref, but before the whistle blows. Therefore, the kicker has already started his approach, and you are basically asking the kicker to risk injury to pull up and not finish his procedure. Furthermore, players are instructed to play through the whistle on important plays to lessen the risk of confusion or referee error. Football has always been this way.

Pete Carroll is a lifelong cheater, and a poor sportsman who is proud of his cheating, and publicly claims he should have the right to cheat (in so many words). I am talking mostly of his time before the NFL. But Carroll always has a cheap and dirty team, because he coaches them to cheat to win.

I mean, look at Sherman: dirty player, poor sportsman, cheats on and off the field. He is Carroll's dream player.


Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:20:11 -0800 The Stranger Posted by larf2k]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:14:49 -0800 The Stranger Hmm, challenging game, fail on 4th and 1 rather than take the field goal early in the game, end up losing at the last minute because the defense faded at the end of the game? NOW the shoe is on the other foot. Ha HA! (And I was pulling for the Hawks too.)
Posted by venomlash]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:09:03 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ultrasuedecushion]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:08:53 -0800 The Stranger