http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/01/16/president-obamas-gun-control-proposals Comments On: President Obama's Gun Control Proposals by Eli Sanders en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 22 May 2013 12:15:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Guns much like truck balls are a fact of life in America. Doesn't mean I have to like either or the fans of such tacky shit.
Posted by CbytheSea]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:28:49 -0800 The Stranger
Well said!
Posted by passionate_jus]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:34:29 -0800 The Stranger
We had an assault weapons ban for 10 years and we did not slide down a slippery slope. It was allowed to expire. Nine states currently have varying assault weapons bans. These bans have not spread like wildfire. Many of these laws were supported by individuals who would like to ban all guns, but so what?

It's proof that if you go from A to B, you can then go either back to A, or on to C. Same as with tax rates, or military spending, or fuel economy standards, or anything else.

The real threat to gun ownership is doing nothing while another room full of school kids is slaughtered. And then another. Can you imagine the public outrage boiling over? All the while our "well regulated militia" bumbles around dropping guns from the holsters and shooting themselves in the leg in a mall, releasing racist YouTube videos. If we keep going down that slope, support to repeal the Second Amendment outright will become overwhelming.

Keeping your guns is exactly the reason for incremental regulation now, before it gets completely out of hand.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:27:16 -0800 The Stranger Hm. Even for gifts to family members, I'd still be in favor of required background checks if they've never had one before.

Unless the family member refuses the gift, or only accepts it if the gun is rendered inoperative (welding the bolt closed or something), then no background check is required.
Posted by Urgutha Forka]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:14:29 -0800 The Stranger
Awesome. Still, ask him about the Negroes and why the White Man needs an AR-15. Interesting stuff.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:08:46 -0800 The Stranger
When I read it all I see is that Congress gets to decide if you can have a double action 6-shot or a nuclear tipped cruise missile.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:05:49 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:03:05 -0800 The Stranger
Fake liberal sock puppet you mean. Real liberals post comments about more things than guns and noodle restaurants.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:01:59 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:59:51 -0800 The Stranger
After participating on these threads for the last few months, I've come to the conclusion that my fellow liberals visceral fear and hatred of firearms is pretty much the same thing as how the far right views abortion.

Too much irrational, knee-jerk emotionalism to hear anything other than their own point of view.


Posted by CPN]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:56:36 -0800 The Stranger Posted by six five]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:52:16 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:50:45 -0800 The Stranger
Urgutha, I agree with you, except that I'd want an exemption on the background checks for gifts to family members.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:48:50 -0800 The Stranger An expert on the subject is giving free information...
You'd rather remain ignorant and incorrect?

The best way to win a debate is to fully understand your opponent's position.
Posted by Urgutha Forka]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:47:00 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Lew Siffer]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:44:50 -0800 The Stranger
Federal gun trafficking law: Not sure what that means, but if it means harsh penalties for anyone selling guns they're not supposed to sell, then I'm in favor.

Assault weapons ban: Not in favor.

Universal background checks: In favor.

Ban on high capacity magazines: Not in favor.
Posted by Urgutha Forka]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:43:02 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 The Stranger Posted by imbecile]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:35:29 -0800 The Stranger
Oh, and revolvers are faster than semi-autos. Google Jerry Miculek.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:25 -0800 The Stranger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3tt3N5Tu…

Most semi-autos sold today have detachable mags, but it's not part of the definition.

Posted by ScrawnyKayaker]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:25:17 -0800 The Stranger
The operation is practically the same: the trigger pull both positions the hammer for a new shot, and cues up a fresh round. Call it "double action" if you must, but it is the same process. Legally speaking they should be classified as the same thing.
Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:19:07 -0800 The Stranger
I dont want to see either set of zealots dominate the discussion and it is unfortunate that forces on Slog are helping to make that happen by using loaded terms such as 'gun nuts'.

To 5280: Yes, you zealots can hijack the discussion yet again by quibbling over terms but this is not (yet) the time.
A modern revolver will cock and spin the cylinder with every pull of the trigger, and does not require manually cocking after every shot. We know that. A revolver can fire almost as fast as a semi-auto.

A semi-auto has a detachable magazine and a propensity for jamming.
Posted by Dr_Awesome]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:05:04 -0800 The Stranger Posted by shambhaladawa]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:58:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:53:06 -0800 The Stranger
"Semi-automatic" just means that the action of pulling the trigger also sets the hammer back (cocks the gun) so that you do not need to do so manually.

Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:50:10 -0800 The Stranger