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      <title>Comments On: Don&apos;t Eat Fried Chicken
    
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      <![CDATA[Ugh...Guns, Germs, and Steel was not an apology for colonialism. Every continent has had empires. In the Americas they were fairly small, but that was because they couldn't travel long distances quickly due to their lack of horses and not because the Aztecs didn't want to subjugate as many people as they could. And so if you want to explain why the Spanish conquered the Aztecs instead of the Aztecs conquering the Spanish, there are three explanations: <br />
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1) Europeans are naturally superior (racist)<br />
2) Europeans during the colonial era were morally worse than the people they conquered (maybe true in some cases, but there's plenty of  non-Western empires that probably would've jumped at the chance to found overseas colonies if they had the technology to pull it off, so it's a fairly dubious, borderline-racist claim at the end of the day)<br />
3) Europe and Asia were able to develop technologically due to the geography of those continents and the plants and animals they were able to domesticate that Africa and the Americas lacked, and so Europeans subjugated everyone else because they could (not racist, since it depends on the luck of having easy-to-domesticate horses instead of impossible-to-domesticate zebras). If you believe Jared Diamond says that might makes right, that's a very problematic argument that totally excuses colonialism, but he never says that. Other people just read it into the book.
        
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      <![CDATA[A nice review, Charles...nice. Why is everyone so damn nice to Jared Diamond!? I understand this wasn't a favorable review, but I still think you were too gentle, Mr. Mudede.<br />
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I'm in accordance with sgt_doom, in some strange way, and I believe that with Guns, Germs and Steel, Jared Diamond has been the captain of an 'intellectualist' pop-culture voyage to conveniently forget about the past and present violence of colonialism once and for all. <br />
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I haven't read the new book, nor will I (understanding all the while that this doesn't make me the most credible critic), but "What can we learn from traditional societies?" sounds a bit like "the conquistadores slaid them, the Dutch and English shackled and sold them, our large corporations have murdered and displaced them, and we the upper-middle class of Western society still have the nerve to romanticize their cute little primitive tricks." <br />
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Fuck you Jared Diamond, fuck you.
        
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      <![CDATA[@sgt doom: You are about half right. Yes, the reasons the Filipinos were slaughtered in the aftermath of the Spanish-American War have all to do with Empire. In that you are absolutely correct. However the question that Diamond asks and then answers in "Guns, Germs and Steel" is how is it that Europeans were able to come up with the technologies that enabled them to build up and expand their Empires, that allowed colonization to happen. That's the part you are missing. You should read the book.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sgt. Doom, apparently you didn't bother to read Guns, Germs, and Steel, but thanks for the ignorant commentary anyway, we needed a laugh on this page.<br />
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I agree with you Charles, there seems to be more belly button gazing in Yesterday than expected. I have appreciated it because it forces a contemplation of values that are taken for granted in the hypercivilized modern age. Not all of us readers of The Stranger are bohemian hippies - or completely unengaged ragesters like Sgt. Doom - and a little splash of bracing scientific rationale to urge introspection of our values is welcome. But Yesterday is really just a half step up from being a really good self-help book, not the sweeping perspective on the world and how it came to be or what millions of years of evolutionary biology drives in us as individuals, a species, or a culture.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Your review sounds superficially brilliant, but is deeply flawed.  Diamond's Pulitzer book, and major thesis, are simply apologies for the rapacious crimes and nature of various empires: the Roman, British and American, etc.<br />
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Colonialism throughout Africa and parts of Asia?<br />
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Negative, people far more intelligent than I (Jane Jacobs and David Deutsch) have deftly destroyed Diamond's fundamental premise.<br />
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When, in the aftermath of the Spanish-American War, America was slaughtering Filipinos in the late 1800s and early 1900s, it had nothing to do with Geobiology, or Biogeography or whatever the eff Diamond claims, it was empire and land and resource theft, pure and simple.<br />
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Resource theft, and the killing which accompanies it, is a complete trademark of such events:  the untold killing and slaughter during the 1950s in South America (during Eisenhower, which laid the further groundwork), and especially during Reagan's administration in the 1980s, with American Special Ops doing untold damage to those societies and cultures there, all in the name of American-based multinational resource theft!<br />
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Your review of his recent book is completely on target, of course.<br />
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Where Diamond excels is writing those introductions for his buddies' hedge fund books, similar Wall Street fans and apologists.<br>
        
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