http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/02/18/the-tranny-awards-were-last-night Comments On: The Tranny Awards Were Last Night by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Sat, 18 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Sat, 18 May 2013 18:30:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Neither the term "shemale" or "tranny" should be used in real life situations or reporting on individuals and especially not outside the adult entertainment industry.

We had a great show with models and producers from all areas participating and winning. We'd love to have you as our guest next year.

Thanks
Steven Grooby
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CEO Grooby Productions who presented The Tranny Awards http://www.trannyawards.com
Posted by Steven Grooby]]> Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:36:41 -0800 The Stranger
Dan is not being transphobic. He's just trying to figure out what the fuck is the right thing to say, since "tranny" has been an acceptable term in the gay community for a long time (without really consulting trans people on its usage). Honestly, I wonder how much of the outrage is from straight trans people (and, I suspect, those who are transsexual versus more fluid areas of the trans spectrum) compared to those of us also involved in the queer community.
Posted by PsychoLinguist]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:44:47 -0800 The Stranger If you get called on something that you shouldn't have said, you fucking apologize.I always found this ridiculous. You can't even objectively define what shouldn't be said and then you apologize for a perceived slight. There are reasons why not to insult people and that not one of them.
Posted by sirkowski]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:15:19 -0800 The Stranger
You don't get to police what you view as selective enforcement. If you get called on something that you shouldn't have said, you fucking apologize.

What you don't do is cry when someone else gets away with saying it... because what are we? Two years old?
Posted by cpt. tim]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:20:28 -0800 The Stranger
When ENDA was being debated a few years back, and it seemed clear a GLB-ENDA would pass but a GLBT-ENDA wouldn't, I very clearly remember the outrage and screaming from the transfolk that they shouldn't be thrown under the bus because WE WERE ALL THE GLBT COMMUNITY.

Now, as has been reiterated in these very comments, if you are a member of a minority community you are "allowed" to use derogatory slang without reproach, and it's only if you are outside the community that it is insulting and bigoted.

Dan Savage is clearly a member of the GLBT community, and yet he still gets grief from trans activists..

So it appears that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are part of the "community" when it suits trans activists, and "outsiders" otherwise.
Posted by Ianto S.]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:25:13 -0800 The Stranger Posted by sirkowski]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:06:54 -0800 The Stranger
If people from a clearly oppressed group ask you to please not call them a word anymore, how hard is it to listen to them and not make petty arguments back?
Posted by raku]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:02:59 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Bama Librul]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:59:57 -0800 The Stranger Posted by I Fucked Your Dad]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:58:22 -0800 The Stranger
P.S. This doesn't mean Dan should have been glitterbombed (or whatever what done to him). His clearly pro-trans positions with regards to sex and love was evident from his column. It should have at least granted him some clemency until "t---y" was fully established as derogatory. It's an evolving issue for everyone, outsiders included.
Posted by lolorhone]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:10:14 -0800 The Stranger Posted by TVDinner]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:09:30 -0800 The Stranger Posted by sirkowski]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:06:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by DannyG]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:04:47 -0800 The Stranger
Very annoying.
Posted by RTam]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:40:15 -0800 The Stranger Posted by jzimbert]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:37:58 -0800 The Stranger Posted by I Fucked Your Dad]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:17:22 -0800 The Stranger Posted by The Head-shaking Lesbian]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:52:39 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Lumpmoose]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:01:23 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Timrrr]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:44:40 -0800 The Stranger if it tranny is equivalent to nigger, than trans-people can use it, but cis-people can't.
So, Buck Angel can use it, you can't.
Posted by migrationist]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:44:03 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Hawke]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:41:05 -0800 The Stranger