http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/deeply-embarrassed-white-people-talk-awkwardly-about-race/Content?oid=9747101 Comments On: Deeply Embarrassed White People Talk Awkwardly About Race by Jen Graves en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 22 May 2013 04:15:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
Foisting a bullshit concept of "white-male-ness" onto every indicator of success in life, however, doesn't do it for me.

Racism is terrible. I've seen it, I've broken up fights based on it, and I've even experienced it, and yes, I'm white (no, it wasn't just a fancified "check your privilege"; it was actually racism). It's dehumanizing to everyone involved. But you can't blame everything on it.
Posted by PigeonPugWidget]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:02:12 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Transracial Parenting]]> Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:21:04 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Hsialin]]> Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:27:10 -0700 The Stranger
Dr. Benjamin Carson, a leading world renown brain surgeon is black and grew up in a poor uneducated neighborhood. He rose up, got a good education, was a moral man, and suceeded. Why is it that the people who focus on this "white priveledge" discount personal responsibility these days? Regardless of color, Dr. Benjamin Carson made it big time, Condoleeza Rice, Eric Holder, and countless others showed us all that racism is thing of the past. Things are as they are. Whites have a higher IQ than blacks on average, Africa is pathetic..can anyone acknowledge these facts? Rome 2000 years ago was beautiful with great architecture, art etc, while in many parts of Africa, people live in giant birds nests. With the lower IQ, on average, this means that blacks will need to study and perservere. My father wasn't too bright. He told me that he had to study much harder to get through veterinary school, but he had a strong will to succeed.
If some refuse to even learn to speak English properly, drop out of high school, fail to control themselves morally, and end up losers, whose fault is that? Whitey's? Please...this article is pathetic. There isn't one decent African nation to live in. Do you think we would be better off in Sudan? Ethiopia? Somalia?

Stop all of this nonsense. If someone drops out of school, they should pick fruit, live in a shack with an outhouse, and get a chance to go to nightschool to learn a skill to better themselves. Then they can move out of the shack and earn..(is "earn" racist?) their lifestyles. I think welfare and all of this nonsensical coddling of the losers just perpetuates the problem. We need tough love. We need to return to virtue, high moral standards, and dump this insane liberal progressive, Marxist poison mentality. Others have "made it" by their own efforts. If someone happens to have a 70 IQ, then they will have limitations because they just weren't born with high intelligence, so they can take jobs working on oil rigs, crab boats, welding etc..All very high paying jobs.
So there you have it. Smart people of any color have nothing to feel guilty about. If we create a neighborhood of thugs, drug dealers, morally deficient, lazy people..a slum, then we can get out of it by our own efforts, or live with our bad decisions.


Posted by Shaniqua]]> Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:38:14 -0700 The Stranger
Two wongs don't make a white.

You won't find Asians wasting their time writing self-loathing garbage like this.
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Posted by pino]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:13:29 -0800 The Stranger
This is a great 101 piece not on racism, but on how to just start talking about it among other white people and examining our own micro-aggressions.

But I'm also fascinated by the repeated negative example of Philadelphia in the comments. In the part where I live, at least, there's a lot of work on talking about privilege and addressing our issues. Check out the Theater of the Oppressed for just one example.
Posted by Livia]]> Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:05:26 -0800 The Stranger "Yesterday, I spent the afternoon typing quotes from Harvard University's Professor Western's "Punishment and Inequality in America" into Google Docs. If anyone doubts that irrefutable racism exists they should pause to read the following facts:"
...followed by a bunch of redundant facts about the incarceration of black men.

When you put forth incarceration as evidence of racism, one can't help but wonder if you're disingenuous or just myopic. Yes, it could be racism that causes this, but that is not the only possible explanation that would cross most people's minds.
Posted by Liberal Sans Guilt]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:27:07 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Liberal Sans Guilt]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:51:11 -0800 The Stranger Please feel free to work to inform Americans that ....
the ETHNIC term of "African-American" (AA) is NOT
a 'Synonym' for the RACIAL term of 'Black American'
(BA) -- the two (2) terms are actually referring to two
(2) entirely DIFFERENT GROUPS of people -- AND that
many of the true AAs find it to be very offensive that
our society works to force them to "carry the statistics"
(particularly the 'negative' ones -- ex. AIDS / HIV Rates,
STD Rates; Crime Rates; Out-Of-Wedlock Birthrates;
Higher-Education Drop-Out Rates, STD Rate; etc.) --
for all of the many, many, many diverse BA groups
and communities that are currently living in the U.S.
.
https://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts…
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Posted by APGifts]]> Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:07:26 -0700 The Stranger Posted by elle8]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:36:01 -0700 The Stranger
Haha, that's a great line. Not true though.

I sometimes point out racism when I see it, because that's something I do, and while it might bug the racists I do it to (OK, it does tend to), it doesn't bug them nearly so much as it would if I called them 'nigger' or some equivolent (depending on ... whatever, any bigoted slur).

Also, the sentiment associated with saying to someone, "that's racist" is a lot different from the sentiment associated with saying "You're a nigger (or whatever.)" The former is to offer insight or to attempt to educate (and the fact that it rarely works doesn't seem to stop me, I still do it, will always do it, for reasons which are at the heart of this article), the latter is just generic, pointless hate speech, serves no purpose, fills no need; I dont get it, never did.

I just stopped over here, this is my first comment here ever, this seems to be a seattle place, I don't live in Seattle but Cali. I like your article but a lot of the comments are very similar to those I'm trying to get away from...elsewhere...as in, places I'm trying to get away from, haha, is this going to be possible? Time will tell.

I get accused of "white guilt," which is a kind of bizarre concept I saw mentioned in comments here, too, but that's not what it is that drives my behavior. I do not feel guilty, I simply grew up witnessing RIDICULOUS, rage driven, disgusting and mind boggling anti-black racism, and I see that it continues in America still (even though I live in Cali now and not in the heart of back SEastern America), I see it in this written trend of 'reverse-racism' silly talk and FOX whining; I see it for what it is and call it out from time to time.

I do not believe there is any such thing as anti-white racism but there is anti-white bigotry, of course, because there is anti-everything bigotry, depending on who is angry and who is talking and who likes to generalize as an excuse for being pissed off and feeling superior, assuming someone does, and someone often does.

However there is a big difference between the terms bigotry and racism, but the difference isn't really all that complicated.

The writer you quote sums it up nicely right here:

"Americans love to reduce racial politics to feelings and etiquette. It's the personal and dramatic aspects of race that obsess us, not the deeply rooted and currently active political inequalities."

While it might not feel that way at the time, the latter problem is the real problem, it's pervasive in America and pernicious and, feels like to me, quite conspicuously is just that and it's willful ignorance, seems like to me, when people decide there is some epidemic of reverse racism they want to get on a rant about (Hannity, O'Reilly or whoever). That latter matter is a lot more important than the former transient matter of feeling offended because somebody calls you something you don't like being called that day, and that's for sure.
Posted by IsabellaByersKerr]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:16 -0700 The Stranger
The (reluctant) Enemy Tribe.

PS... did you white mama do all the work in raising you, like most ingrateful Mulattos? Ah, hem, Barack Hussein Obama comes to mind.
Posted by elle8]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:48:46 -0700 The Stranger
The (reluctant) Enemy Tribe.
Posted by elle8]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:31:54 -0700 The Stranger
I am putting in a link to my 3-minute video about the lies revolving around the Trayvon Martin reporting. Please take a look. Then peek at my other video about NBC News trying to get white people killed in their doctoring of the 911 call so that dumb liberals will reinforce their false belief in whitey being more racist than or even as racist as many many in the black population today.

Racist black violence and a media coverup vs the Trayvon Martin propaganda frenzy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7vNsTi6S…

I am not embarrassed to be white at all, even when in consideration of having gotten the shit kicked out of me by racist blacks and threatened on other occasion.

I am embarrased, however, about my years being ignorant enough for the liars in the elite media to convince me that their fake world is real. My hope is to some day read a column about your own embarrassment over the same issue.
Posted by Randal]]> Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:05:02 -0700 The Stranger
I am putting in a link to my 3-minute video about the lies revolving around the Trayvon Martin reporting. Please take a look. Then peek at my other video about NBC News trying to get white people killed in their doctoring of the 911 call so that dumb liberals will reinforce their false belief in whitey being more racist than or even as racist as many many in the black population today.

Racist black violence and a media coverup vs the Trayvon Martin propaganda frenzy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7vNsTi6S…

I am not embarrassed to be white at all, even when in consideration of having gotten the shit kicked out of me by racist blacks and threatened on other occasions.

I am embarrased, however, about my years being ignorant enough for the liars in the elite media to convince me that their fake world is real. My hope is to some day read a column about your own embarrassment over the same issue.
Posted by Randal]]> Tue, 07 Aug 2012 10:58:14 -0700 The Stranger Posted by mamamamao]]> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:43:25 -0700 The Stranger
I strongly agree with @382. I do feel that perhaps Ms. Graves was going a bit far in requesting her students accept the label of racist. It's true that most people have had racist/homophobic/sexist thoughts, but racism is a conscious doctrine. Most people not only don't want to be perceived as racist, they want to be less like racists -- to have fewer racist tendencies or thoughts.
Posted by shurenka]]> Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:51:56 -0700 The Stranger
So you avoid us?? That is more disturbing than overt racism.
Posted by tk120]]> Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:02:44 -0700 The Stranger
So you avoid us?? That is more disturbing than overt racism.
Posted by tk120]]> Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:51:16 -0700 The Stranger Posted by FartOnTheGuiltBrigade]]> Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:04:34 -0700 The Stranger Posted by HunterJE]]> Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:33:30 -0700 The Stranger Posted by ckjames]]> Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:15:03 -0700 The Stranger Posted by thenontraditionallymixedone]]> Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:45:28 -0800 The Stranger
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/opinio…
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