December 21, 2011
How Richard Dawkins Stole Christmas
Ruining the Holidays with a Children's Treasury of Atheism
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The Magic of Reality
by Richard Dawkins and Dave McKean
(Free Press, $32)
The zoologist Richard Dawkins is famous for, one, promoting a genecentric view of evolution and, two, promoting a Godless view of the universe. When it comes to his view concerning genes and their central role in biological evolution, he has some flexibility. He is willing to give up a little ground if the evidence against his position cannot be easily rejected. As for his belief in the Godlessness of the universe, he is inflexible. If you do not accept atheism as the truth, then you are dead wrong. His confidence is, of course, justified; all the evidence around us points not to a grand creator but a cosmic history of accidents. There was the accident of a universe with just the right amount of hydrogen to produce stars. There was the accident of a planet that's just the right distance from a star. The accidents that led to bacterial life, multicellular life, plant life, and animal life. And, finally, the accidents of climate, geography, flora, and fauna that connected to form the kind of mammal that has a brain big enough to believe in a supreme being and, also, disprove the existence of this supreme being.
It's not that Dawkins is wrong about God (that humans made Him up), but his tone is so ungentlemanly, so ungenerous, so fanatical. He has yet to write a book in which he does not stop an engaging line of argument to remount on his high horse and remind us of the universe's utter Godlessness. We have heard you, Dawkins. We have heard you so many times. Yes, God did not design this wasp and its macabre way of killing caterpillars; yes, God did not make the perfect human eye; yes, God-intoxicated people are a danger to scientific progress. Having pounded these hard truths into the heads of adults for thirty-some years, Dawkins has decided it's time to hammer it into the heads of children. This fall, he published a children's book, The Magic of Reality.
Stranger Personals
Hearing somewhere (a cocktail party?) that children are very visual, Dawkins decided to pack his little book with vivid illustrations by the comic-book artist Dave McKean. Well and good. But here is the problem: Dawkins has not written a fabulous children's book but, instead (and rather predictably), a stuffy textbook. Why is this a problem? Because if a child is unlucky enough to read The Magic of Reality, he/she will immediately be returned to the last place they want to be during the holidays: the school, the classroom, tasked with memorizing the facts of science.
Dawkins's goal? Replace the magic of myths with the magic of hard facts: The sun is so far from the earth, light moves at such and such a speed, photosynthesis converts light into energy that powers living organisms, and so on. Children must get real. This business of turning frogs into princes or pumpkins into carriages is total rubbish. Why? Because "frogs and coaches are complicated things with lots of parts that need to be put together in a special way, in a special pattern that can't just happen... by a wave of a wand." This is your science teacher speaking. This is not who you want to spend Christmas with. What you want is to be amused by frogs that can talk, penguins that fly airplanes, and zebras that can disco dance. Every child knows what is entertainment and what is homework. No amount of illustrations can hide the simple fact that Dawkins's book is just a bunch of homework. 
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'We have heard you, Dawkins. We have heard you so many times.'
This coming from one of the most prolific pounders of terminated equines in the Pacific northwest.
The reason Dawkins (and other atheists) are so repeatedly vocal is we've got to go up against stupidity such as Tebow's cadre of evangelical knucklewalkers.
God-intoxicated people are not just dangerous to scientific progress, by the way. They're also dangerous to abortion clinics, skyscrapers, the inhabitants of abortion clinics and skyscrapers, and pretty much anything that represents what they don't like, because they believe their god has given them permission to destroy it.
So ... yeah. Atheists do occasionally get angry at the overarching stupidity of the religiously retarded. So should anyone with more than two functioning neurons to synapsize.
This coming from one of the most prolific pounders of terminated equines in the Pacific northwest.
The reason Dawkins (and other atheists) are so repeatedly vocal is we've got to go up against stupidity such as Tebow's cadre of evangelical knucklewalkers.
God-intoxicated people are not just dangerous to scientific progress, by the way. They're also dangerous to abortion clinics, skyscrapers, the inhabitants of abortion clinics and skyscrapers, and pretty much anything that represents what they don't like, because they believe their god has given them permission to destroy it.
So ... yeah. Atheists do occasionally get angry at the overarching stupidity of the religiously retarded. So should anyone with more than two functioning neurons to synapsize.
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It's OK to be amused by frogs that can talk, penguins that fly airplanes, zebras that can disco dance, burning bushes, virgin birth, resurrection, talking snakes, angels with golden tablets, revelations from invisible beings, and so on - you know that's not real. You do know that NONE of that stuff is real, don't you? If not, then you really need to read Dawkins book.
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@1 - on the other hand, the span of history shows a gradual but definite movement towards acceptance of others and towards rational approach of the very weird world that surrounds us. People who support and personally promote a calm, rational approaches to situations are ultimately "winning". So we can be calm and confident in that measure, and continue to move forward.
On the other other hand, it sounds like the Dawkins book is ignoring the power of myth for human consciousness & culture. Those are critical to culture and historical direction in the same way that epigenetics is critical for gene expression and reimprinting.
On the other other hand, it sounds like the Dawkins book is ignoring the power of myth for human consciousness & culture. Those are critical to culture and historical direction in the same way that epigenetics is critical for gene expression and reimprinting.
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aThought topic and question of the day;
Faith, is it a homonyn or not?
I will now give you two different uses of the word faith.
Example # 1 I have faith, tomorrow at 12:00 o’clock noon, the sun will be overhead.
Example # 2 I have faith that God is alive and well.
In example #1; the reason I have faith that the sun will be overhead tomorrow at
12: 00 noon is because the sun has been there in the past.
The sun has been over my head at 12:00 o’clock noon every day, no exceptions, with multi forms of conformation points for the past 57 years of my life.
Pre-Conclusion for
example #1;
When the word faith is used in this context that can be confirmed with actual proof, the word faith is truly a pathway to the truth.
Now for example #2 I have faith that God is alive and well.
God, heaven, hell, angels from heaven, the devil, the holy spirit, etc., has no scientific proof or much more importantly any actual proof anywhere, worldwide.
Please note;
There are millions of churches worldwide with lots and lots of followers, because religion got a 6,000 to 10,000 year head start on science.
Actual proof is really quite easy and much simpler than scientific proof and actual proof can be done quickly with little effort.
Try this with your car keys.
You can now reach into your pocket or purse; you can feel the car keys, conformation point # 1.
Pull the car keys out and look, you can see them, conformation point #2.
Then if you move them up and down rapidly you can hear them jingle, conformation point #3.
Put the car keys back into your pocket and do the same procedure with the same exact results conformation # 4.
This is actual proof and it only takes a few seconds of your time, simply done.
Please note this misconception;
“My mother almost died and God saved her”, is not actual proof, it is an assumed
consequence.
Most commonly and most every proof of god, I hear is an assumed consequence to date. No one has ever shown me, simply done, actual proof of god to yet.
Pre- conclusion of example #2;
When the word faith is used in conjunction with religion it becomes a word without a base or foundation.
Pre- conclusion for both examples; Because of the usage of the word faith in example #1, that does have a past multi history conformation point and
that can be confirmed through actual proof,
therefore this pectoral usage of faith, is surely and should be regarded as a pathway to the truth.
Because of the usage of the word faith in example
# 2 or other relationship such as Buddhism, voodoo and black magic, ect. usage, that does not have a conformation point and or cannot be confirmed by,
means of simple actual proof, should be regarded as; a pathway to deception and superstition,
a word to be aware of and cautious of.
Final Conclusion of faith;
Common sense and reasoning would tell us that the conflict between example #1 and example #2, do have merit and
should be regarded as totally direct opposite uses of the word faith and therefore according to the rules of English language,
the word faith should be regarded as a homonym.
Please note this relative expiation; When the word faith is used in conjunction with religious pretenses that does not have a conformation point,
therefore, word faith becomes a word more closely related the slang word that magicians use, “abra ka dabra”.
Therefore most importantly in today’s world we live in; That in example # 2 the most common religious usage form of faith, that does not have a conformation point,
is automatically confused with the conformation point form of the word faith, in
example # 1.
Therefore the true meaning of Religious Faith is;
Trust in the god concept, or transcendent reality, being beyond the range of normal mental or physical human experience,
without any scientific proof, or any actual proof and or any form of conformation..
Most all religious Americans and are incorrect and do misuse the word faith almost every time, as a pathway to the truth and do not know of this mistake to start with. Some Atheists do not fully understand, faith.
Because the word faith is misused at a primary level, by millions and millions of people, probably worldwide. Something should be done about it.
It is the English teacher’s jobs within our schools system, to point this out to children that faith is a homonym and why. Children have the right to have a correct and true full usage of the English language.
By the English teacher leaving out the fact that faith is a homonym and why, constitutes ignorance or deceitfulness.
Example;
If I were to say, “I climb that tree”. An English teacher would be quick to correct me. But the word faith goes unchecked in our public schools even in our Universities.
Especially since there are so many millions people in the general public who unknowingly do have a misconception of the word faith and therefore unknowingly misuse it.
A true understanding of the word faith is one of many things that your preacher does not want his congregation or the school children of America to understand fully.
Your preacher wants his form of word usage of faith to ride on the back of the other form usage which does have conformation point, therefore getting the world to spin his way.
At our and also your children’s expense.
Religious faith riding
On truism faith
Christians do not even understand their own superstition words!
Only when faith loses its force can a society hope to become humane, therefore;
The Atheist Experience Box 3798 Austin, Texas 78764 now has an affiliate that is now offering a 1 million dollar reward for proof of god. They are insured and bonded.
Christians are stupefied by their preacher, not only in this particular stance.
Please, take time to read a science book and find out that live itself, is just a chemical reaction.
Please imagine a Texas sized dunce cap on your preacher’s head the next time you go to church.
I hope this helps you better understand the world you live in,,,, with fellowship and true leadership. Good bye from the great state of Texas
Charlie. 12/1/11
P.S.
Type in Homonym: Then click WIKIPEDIA, the free encyclopedia pull it down until the 3 circles appear it will help you better understand.
More...
Faith, is it a homonyn or not?
I will now give you two different uses of the word faith.
Example # 1 I have faith, tomorrow at 12:00 o’clock noon, the sun will be overhead.
Example # 2 I have faith that God is alive and well.
In example #1; the reason I have faith that the sun will be overhead tomorrow at
12: 00 noon is because the sun has been there in the past.
The sun has been over my head at 12:00 o’clock noon every day, no exceptions, with multi forms of conformation points for the past 57 years of my life.
Pre-Conclusion for
example #1;
When the word faith is used in this context that can be confirmed with actual proof, the word faith is truly a pathway to the truth.
Now for example #2 I have faith that God is alive and well.
God, heaven, hell, angels from heaven, the devil, the holy spirit, etc., has no scientific proof or much more importantly any actual proof anywhere, worldwide.
Please note;
There are millions of churches worldwide with lots and lots of followers, because religion got a 6,000 to 10,000 year head start on science.
Actual proof is really quite easy and much simpler than scientific proof and actual proof can be done quickly with little effort.
Try this with your car keys.
You can now reach into your pocket or purse; you can feel the car keys, conformation point # 1.
Pull the car keys out and look, you can see them, conformation point #2.
Then if you move them up and down rapidly you can hear them jingle, conformation point #3.
Put the car keys back into your pocket and do the same procedure with the same exact results conformation # 4.
This is actual proof and it only takes a few seconds of your time, simply done.
Please note this misconception;
“My mother almost died and God saved her”, is not actual proof, it is an assumed
consequence.
Most commonly and most every proof of god, I hear is an assumed consequence to date. No one has ever shown me, simply done, actual proof of god to yet.
Pre- conclusion of example #2;
When the word faith is used in conjunction with religion it becomes a word without a base or foundation.
Pre- conclusion for both examples; Because of the usage of the word faith in example #1, that does have a past multi history conformation point and
that can be confirmed through actual proof,
therefore this pectoral usage of faith, is surely and should be regarded as a pathway to the truth.
Because of the usage of the word faith in example
# 2 or other relationship such as Buddhism, voodoo and black magic, ect. usage, that does not have a conformation point and or cannot be confirmed by,
means of simple actual proof, should be regarded as; a pathway to deception and superstition,
a word to be aware of and cautious of.
Final Conclusion of faith;
Common sense and reasoning would tell us that the conflict between example #1 and example #2, do have merit and
should be regarded as totally direct opposite uses of the word faith and therefore according to the rules of English language,
the word faith should be regarded as a homonym.
Please note this relative expiation; When the word faith is used in conjunction with religious pretenses that does not have a conformation point,
therefore, word faith becomes a word more closely related the slang word that magicians use, “abra ka dabra”.
Therefore most importantly in today’s world we live in; That in example # 2 the most common religious usage form of faith, that does not have a conformation point,
is automatically confused with the conformation point form of the word faith, in
example # 1.
Therefore the true meaning of Religious Faith is;
Trust in the god concept, or transcendent reality, being beyond the range of normal mental or physical human experience,
without any scientific proof, or any actual proof and or any form of conformation..
Most all religious Americans and are incorrect and do misuse the word faith almost every time, as a pathway to the truth and do not know of this mistake to start with. Some Atheists do not fully understand, faith.
Because the word faith is misused at a primary level, by millions and millions of people, probably worldwide. Something should be done about it.
It is the English teacher’s jobs within our schools system, to point this out to children that faith is a homonym and why. Children have the right to have a correct and true full usage of the English language.
By the English teacher leaving out the fact that faith is a homonym and why, constitutes ignorance or deceitfulness.
Example;
If I were to say, “I climb that tree”. An English teacher would be quick to correct me. But the word faith goes unchecked in our public schools even in our Universities.
Especially since there are so many millions people in the general public who unknowingly do have a misconception of the word faith and therefore unknowingly misuse it.
A true understanding of the word faith is one of many things that your preacher does not want his congregation or the school children of America to understand fully.
Your preacher wants his form of word usage of faith to ride on the back of the other form usage which does have conformation point, therefore getting the world to spin his way.
At our and also your children’s expense.
Religious faith riding
On truism faith
Christians do not even understand their own superstition words!
Only when faith loses its force can a society hope to become humane, therefore;
The Atheist Experience Box 3798 Austin, Texas 78764 now has an affiliate that is now offering a 1 million dollar reward for proof of god. They are insured and bonded.
Christians are stupefied by their preacher, not only in this particular stance.
Please, take time to read a science book and find out that live itself, is just a chemical reaction.
Please imagine a Texas sized dunce cap on your preacher’s head the next time you go to church.
I hope this helps you better understand the world you live in,,,, with fellowship and true leadership. Good bye from the great state of Texas
Charlie. 12/1/11
P.S.
Type in Homonym: Then click WIKIPEDIA, the free encyclopedia pull it down until the 3 circles appear it will help you better understand.
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Thought topic and question of the day;
FAITH, is it a homonyn or not?
I will now give you two different uses of the word faith.
Example # 1;
I have faith, tomorrow at 12:00 o’clock noon, the sun will be overhead.
Example # 2;
I have faith that God is alive and well.
In example #1;
The reason why I have faith that the sun will be overhead tomorrow at 12: 00 noon is because the sun has been there in the past.
I live in the U.S. midwest. Therefore, the sun has been over my head at 12:00 o’clock noon every day, no exceptions, with multi forms of conformation points for the past 57 years of my life.
Pre-Conclusion for example #1;
When the word faith is used in this context that can be confirmed with actual proof, the word faith is truly a pathway to the truth.
Now for example #2
I have faith that God is alive and well.
God, heaven, hell, angels from heaven, the devil, the holy spirit, etc., has no scientific proof or much more importantly any actual proof anywhere, worldwide.
Actual proof is really quite easy and much simpler than scientific proof and actual proof can be done quickly with little effort.
Try this with your car keys.
You can now reach into your pocket or purse; you can feel the car keys, conformation point
# 1.
Pull the car keys out and look, you can see them, conformation point #2.
Then if you move them up and down rapidly you can hear them jingle, conformation point #3.
Put the car keys back into your pocket and do the same procedure with the same exact results conformation # 4.
This is actual proof and it only takes a few seconds of your time, simply done.
Please note this misconception;
“My mother almost died and God saved her”, is not actual proof, it is an assumed consequence.
Most commonly and most every proof of god, I hear is an assumed consequence to date. No one has ever shown me, simply done, actual proof, of god yet.
Please note;
There are millions of churches worldwide with lots and lots of followers, because religion got a 6,000 to 10,000 year head start on science. My point for the above is with this much power of multitude they should have some type of proof.
Pre- conclusion of example #2;
When the word faith is used in conjunction with religion it becomes a word without a base or foundation.
Pre- conclusion for both examples;
Because of the usage of the word faith in example #1, that does have a past multi historial conformation point and that can be confirmed through actual proof,therefore this pectoral usage of faith, is surely and should be regarded as a pathway to the truth.
Because of the usage of the word faith in example # 2 or other relationship such as Buddhism, voodoo and black magic, ect. usage, that does not have a conformation point and or cannot be confirmed by, means of simple actual proof, should be regarded as;
Religious Faith pathway to deception and superstition, more importantly a word to be aware of and cautious of.
Final Conclusion of faith;
Common sense and reasoning would tell us that the conflict between example #1 and example #2, do have merit and should be regarded as totally direct opposite uses of the word faith and therefore according to the rules of English language;
the word faith should be regarded as a homonym.
Please note this most imporant relative expiation of why the following is;
MY CASE IN POINT;
When the word faith is used in conjunction with religious pretenses that does not have a conformation point, therefore, word faith becomes a word more closely related the slang word that magicians use, “abra ka dabra”.
Therefore most importantly in today’s world we live in;
That in example # 2 the most common religious usage form of faith, that does not have a conformation point,is automatically confused with the conformation point form of the word faith, in example # 1.
Therefore the only true meaning of Religious Faith is;
Trust in the god concept, or transcendent reality, being beyond the range of normal mental or physical human experience,
without any scientific proof, or any actual proof and or any form of conformation..
Most all religious Americans are logically incorrect and do misuse the word faith almost every time, as a pathway to the truth and do not know of this mistake to start with. Some Atheists do not fully understand, the word usage of the word faith.
Because the word faith is misused at a primary level, by millions and millions of people, worldwide. Something should be done about it.
It is the English teacher’s jobs within our schools system, to point this out to children that faith is a homonym and why. Children have the right to have a correct and true full usage of the English language.
By the English teacher leaving out the fact that faith is a homonym and why, constitutes ignorance or deceitfulness.
Example;
If I were to say, “I climb that tree”. An English teacher would be quick to correct me. But the word faith goes unchecked in our public schools even in our Universities.
Especially since there are so many millions people in the general public who unknowingly do have a misconception of the word faith and therefore unknowingly misuse it.
A true understanding of the word faith is one of many things that your preacher does not want his congregation or the school children of America to understand fully.
Your preacher wants his form of, (word play), word usage of faith to ride on the back of the other form usage which does have conformation point, therefore getting the world to spin his way. At our and also your children’s expense.
Religious faith word usage, is wrongfully riding;
On the back of truism faith.
Many people worldwide do not understand this word play of this superstitious word usage. A form of trickery and tom foolery by the church!
Only when faith loses its force can a society hope to become more humane.
therefore;
The Atheist Experience Box 3798 Austin, Texas 78764 now has an affiliate that is now offering a 1 million dollar reward for proof of god. They are insured and bonded.
Christians are stupefied by their preacher, not only in this particular stance.
Please straight from my heart to your heart,
I beg of you, to the take time to think; of;
who and why they conjured up the god concept.
I hope this helps you better understand the world you live in,,,, with fellowship and true leadership. Good bye from the great state of Texas.
Charlie. 12/1/11
P.S.
Type in Homonym: Then click WIKIPEDIA, the free encyclopedia pull it down until the 3 circles appear it will help you better understand the word faith.
Please imagine a Texas sized dunce cap on your preacher’s head the next time you go to church.
More...
Thought topic and question of the day;
FAITH, is it a homonyn or not?
I will now give you two different uses of the word faith.
Example # 1;
I have faith, tomorrow at 12:00 o’clock noon, the sun will be overhead.
Example # 2;
I have faith that God is alive and well.
In example #1;
The reason why I have faith that the sun will be overhead tomorrow at 12: 00 noon is because the sun has been there in the past.
I live in the U.S. midwest. Therefore, the sun has been over my head at 12:00 o’clock noon every day, no exceptions, with multi forms of conformation points for the past 57 years of my life.
Pre-Conclusion for example #1;
When the word faith is used in this context that can be confirmed with actual proof, the word faith is truly a pathway to the truth.
Now for example #2
I have faith that God is alive and well.
God, heaven, hell, angels from heaven, the devil, the holy spirit, etc., has no scientific proof or much more importantly any actual proof anywhere, worldwide.
Actual proof is really quite easy and much simpler than scientific proof and actual proof can be done quickly with little effort.
Try this with your car keys.
You can now reach into your pocket or purse; you can feel the car keys, conformation point
# 1.
Pull the car keys out and look, you can see them, conformation point #2.
Then if you move them up and down rapidly you can hear them jingle, conformation point #3.
Put the car keys back into your pocket and do the same procedure with the same exact results conformation # 4.
This is actual proof and it only takes a few seconds of your time, simply done.
Please note this misconception;
“My mother almost died and God saved her”, is not actual proof, it is an assumed consequence.
Most commonly and most every proof of god, I hear is an assumed consequence to date. No one has ever shown me, simply done, actual proof, of god yet.
Please note;
There are millions of churches worldwide with lots and lots of followers, because religion got a 6,000 to 10,000 year head start on science. My point for the above is with this much power of multitude they should have some type of proof.
Pre- conclusion of example #2;
When the word faith is used in conjunction with religion it becomes a word without a base or foundation.
Pre- conclusion for both examples;
Because of the usage of the word faith in example #1, that does have a past multi historial conformation point and that can be confirmed through actual proof,therefore this pectoral usage of faith, is surely and should be regarded as a pathway to the truth.
Because of the usage of the word faith in example # 2 or other relationship such as Buddhism, voodoo and black magic, ect. usage, that does not have a conformation point and or cannot be confirmed by, means of simple actual proof, should be regarded as;
Religious Faith pathway to deception and superstition, more importantly a word to be aware of and cautious of.
Final Conclusion of faith;
Common sense and reasoning would tell us that the conflict between example #1 and example #2, do have merit and should be regarded as totally direct opposite uses of the word faith and therefore according to the rules of English language;
the word faith should be regarded as a homonym.
Please note this most imporant relative expiation of why the following is;
MY CASE IN POINT;
When the word faith is used in conjunction with religious pretenses that does not have a conformation point, therefore, word faith becomes a word more closely related the slang word that magicians use, “abra ka dabra”.
Therefore most importantly in today’s world we live in;
That in example # 2 the most common religious usage form of faith, that does not have a conformation point,is automatically confused with the conformation point form of the word faith, in example # 1.
Therefore the only true meaning of Religious Faith is;
Trust in the god concept, or transcendent reality, being beyond the range of normal mental or physical human experience,
without any scientific proof, or any actual proof and or any form of conformation..
Most all religious Americans are logically incorrect and do misuse the word faith almost every time, as a pathway to the truth and do not know of this mistake to start with. Some Atheists do not fully understand, the word usage of the word faith.
Because the word faith is misused at a primary level, by millions and millions of people, worldwide. Something should be done about it.
It is the English teacher’s jobs within our schools system, to point this out to children that faith is a homonym and why. Children have the right to have a correct and true full usage of the English language.
By the English teacher leaving out the fact that faith is a homonym and why, constitutes ignorance or deceitfulness.
Example;
If I were to say, “I climb that tree”. An English teacher would be quick to correct me. But the word faith goes unchecked in our public schools even in our Universities.
Especially since there are so many millions people in the general public who unknowingly do have a misconception of the word faith and therefore unknowingly misuse it.
A true understanding of the word faith is one of many things that your preacher does not want his congregation or the school children of America to understand fully.
Your preacher wants his form of, (word play), word usage of faith to ride on the back of the other form usage which does have conformation point, therefore getting the world to spin his way. At our and also your children’s expense.
Religious faith word usage, is wrongfully riding;
On the back of truism faith.
Many people worldwide do not understand this word play of this superstitious word usage. A form of trickery and tom foolery by the church!
Only when faith loses its force can a society hope to become more humane.
therefore;
The Atheist Experience Box 3798 Austin, Texas 78764 now has an affiliate that is now offering a 1 million dollar reward for proof of god. They are insured and bonded.
Christians are stupefied by their preacher, not only in this particular stance.
Please straight from my heart to your heart,
I beg of you, to the take time to think; of;
who and why they conjured up the god concept.
I hope this helps you better understand the world you live in,,,, with fellowship and true leadership. Good bye from the great state of Texas.
Charlie. 12/1/11
P.S.
Type in Homonym: Then click WIKIPEDIA, the free encyclopedia pull it down until the 3 circles appear it will help you better understand the word faith.
Please imagine a Texas sized dunce cap on your preacher’s head the next time you go to church.
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A must read for all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello my name is Charles,
I am an atheist activist and therefore now man of principle.
Also I am a, WHAT IF PERSON!
First;
I was at a P. T. A meeting once and it seemed that every parent wanted more, which is a good thing, but no one offered up the money or had the money to pay these things they wanted.
Secondly;
My wife and my 18 year old daughter are best friends with the preacher's wife and family. I therefore have an impossible job of trying to convert my wife and daughter over to atheism.
Third ; Therefore I put to thought what would it take to change them over?
Now that I have laid down 3 pretences, I can say what needs to be said about atheism.
Richard Dawkins is a very noble man to whom I admire but.
The problem with today’s atheism is they have no viable plan of behavioral refinement service that would replace the church’s behavioral refinement service.
A world without any such a standard of behavioral learning refinement center means;
1. Christians are correct when they say, “the world would get worst instead of better without us, the church”, because;
WE ARE BORN PURE BUT BEASTLY AND UNREFINED.
The truth, the fact, is we are born pure and unrefined, almost beastly.
Without children and without adult’s reintroduction or getting a proper behavioral education we will surely become monsters in accordance with this refined world we live in.
In today’s world it is demanded of each one of us by our socially acceptable moral standards and of our lawmakers, to behave ourselves.
This is one of many reasons why we need to build our own scientific behavioral center, complex. This would give the people that attend church a viable option. Give the preacher an honest job within the complex. By giving the preacher an honest job, this would in turn, thus make the preacher and his followers allies instead of an enemy. By teaching children and adults correctly, this important fact would end the controversy, just leave the god lie to history and keep the good parts of religion like, love your neighbor, alive and well. The Japanese people are among the best behaved people in the world, I would love to discover and implement what they are doing here in America.
The better we understand the world we live in, the better we can live our lives. It is just that simply to understand, but with all the religious opposition it is very difficult and expense to accomplish this goal.
We as atheist can’t keep calling Christians liars and leave it at that
Many children, who believe weakly, in God and do not attend church frequently, miss out on much of the behavioral refinement part of their education and they are the most common lawbreaker’s per-kappa percentage wise, when they become adults or are adults and are sent to prison.
I foresee Atheist later on in years to come, doing a complete job with no one left behind, if we Atheist could establish just one full service behavioral center,as good as anyone could ask for.
Religion creates controversy and many other pitfalls like the 9/11 religious tragedy that has cost the U.S. trillions of tax dollars in religious war debt. Our time and our money would be much better spent on other refinements. Also please consider, when is the next religious war and what will be the cost? What is stopping the religiously insane from doing something similar to 9/11 again next week?
(a big truck bomb at the White house, maybe?)
It was religion itself that flew those airplanes into the world trade center, , not the Islamisic’s as your preacher and sometimes the world news has told you and pushed the blame off onto. This is something that your preacher does not want his congregation or the government to be aware of.
Here are the air traffic controllers transcripts from 9/11 decide you yourself;
Sept 11, 2001
Shanksville, Pennsylvania
United Airlines, Flight 93
Boeing B-757-222
N591UA
The aircraft was hijacked after taking off from Newark International Airport. The hijackers took control of the aircraft and turned the plane towards Washington D.C. A struggle ensued between the passengers and hijackers after which the plane crashed at a high rate of speed into a field in the Pennsylvania countryside. It was one of four planes that were hijacked the
same day. All 65 on board were killed.
Text in parentheses was translated from Arabic.
9:31:57 Ladies and gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining seating. We have a bomb on board. So sit.
9:32:09 Er, uh ... Calling Cleveland center ... You're unreadable. Say again slowly.
9:32:10 Don't move. Shut up.
9:32:13 Come on, come.
9:32:16 Shut up.
9:32:17 Don't move.
9:32:18 Stop.
9:32:34 Sit, sit, sit down.
9:32:39 Sit down.
9:32:41 Unintelligible ... (the brother.)
9:32:54 Stop.
9:33:09 No more. Sit down.
9:33:10 (That's it, that's it, that's it), down, down.
9:33:14 Shut up.
9:33:20 Unintelligible
9:33:20 We just, we didn't get it clear ... Is that United 93 calling?
9:33:30 (Jassim.)
9:33:34 (In the name of Allah, the most merciful, the most compassionate.)
9:33:41 Unintelligible.
9:33:43 Finish, no more. No more.
9:33:49 No. No, no, no, no.
9:33:53 No, no, no, no.
9:34:00 Go ahead, lie down. Lie down. Down, down, down.
9:34:06 (There is someone ... Huh?)
9:34:12 Down, down, down. Sit down. Come on, sit down. No, no, no, no, no. No.
9:34:16 Down, down, down.
9:34:21 Down.
9:34:25 No more.
9:34:26 No more. Down.
9:34:27 Please, please, please ...
9:34:28 Down.
9:34:29 Please, please, don't hurt me ...
9:34:30 Down. No more.
9:34:31 Oh God.
9:34:32 Down, down, down.
9:34:33 Sit down.
9:34:34 Shut up.
9:34:42 No more.
9:34:46 (This?)
9:34:47 Yes.
9:34:47 Unintelligible.
9:34:57 (One moment, one moment.)
9:34:59 Unintelligible.
9:35:03 No more.
9:35:06 Down, down, down, down.
9:35:09 No, no, no, no, no, no...
9:35:10 Unintelligible.
9:35:15 Sit down, sit down, sit down.
9:35:17 Down.
9:35:18 (What's this?)
9:35:19 Sit down. Sit down. You know, sit down.
9:35:24 No, no, no.
9:35:30 Down, down, down, down.
9:35:32 Are you talking to me?
9:35:33 No, no, no. Unintelligible.
9:35:35 Down in the airport.
9:35:39 Down, down.
9:35:40 I don't want to die.
9:35:41 No, no. Down, down.
9:35:42 I don't want to die. I don't want to die.
9:35:44 No, no. Down, down, down, down, down, down.
9:35:47 No, no, please.
9:35:57 No.
9:37:06 (That's it. Go back.)
9:37:06 (That's it.) Sit down.
9:37:36 (Everthing is fine. I finished.)
9:38:36 (Yes.)
9:39:11 Ah. Here's the captain. I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet.
9:39:21 OK. That's 93 calling?
9:39:24 (One moment.)
9:39:34 United 93. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.
9:39:42 And center exec jet nine fifty-six. That was the transmission.
9:39:47 OK. Ah. Who called Cleveland?
9:39:52 Executive jet nine fifty-six, did you understand that transmission?
9:39:56 Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board.
9:39:58 That was all you got out of it also?
9:40:01 Affirmative.
9:40:03 Roger.
9:40:03 United 93. Go ahead.
9:40:14 United 93. Go ahead.
9:40:17 Ahhh.
9:40:52 (This green knob?)
9:40:54 (Yes, that's the one.)
9:41:05 United 93, do you hear the Cleveland center?
9:41:14 (One moment. One moment.)
9:41:15 Unintelligible.
9:41:56 Oh man.
9:44:18 (This does not work now.)
9:45:13 Turn it off.
9:45:16 (... Seven thousand ...)
9:45:19 (How about we let them in? We let the guys in now.)
9:45:23 (OK.)
9:45:24 (Should we let the guys in?)
9:45:25 (Inform them, and tell him to talk to the pilot. Bring the pilot back.)
9:45:57 (In the name of Allah. In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no other God, but Allah.)
9:47:31 Unintelligible.
9:47:40 (Allah knows.)
9:48:15 Unintelligible.
9:48:38 Set course.
9:49:37 Unintelligible.
9:51:27 Unintelligible.
9:51:35 Unintelligible.
9:52:02 Unintelligible.
9:52:31 Unintelligible.
9:53:20 (The best thing: The guys will go in, lift up the) ... Unintelligible ... (and they put the axe into it. So, everyone will be scared.)
9:53:27 (Yes.)
9:53:28 (The axe.)
9:53:28 Unintelligible.
9:53:29 (No, not the.)
9:53:35 (Let him look through the window. Let him look through the window.)
9:53:52 Unintelligible.
9:54:09 (Open.)
9:54:11 Unintelligible.
9:55:06 You are ... One ...
9:56:15 Unintelligible.
9:57:55 (Is there something?)
9:57:57 (A fight?)
9:57:59 (Yeah?)
9:58:33 Unintelligible. (Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.)
9:58:41 Ugh.
9:58:43 Ugh.
9:58:44 (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.)
9:58:47 Ugh. Ugh.
9:58:52 Stay back.
9:58:55 In the cockpit.
9:58:57 In the cockpit.
9:58:57 (They want to get in here. Hold, hold from the inside. Hold from the inside. Hold).
9:59:04 Hold the door.
9:59:09 Stop him.
9:59:11 Sit down.
9:59:13 Sit down.
9:59:15 Sit down.
9:59:16 Unintelligible.
9:59:17 (What?)
9:59:18 (There are some guys. All those guys.)
9:59:20 Lets get them.
9:59:25 Sit down.
9:59:29 (What?)
9:59:30 (What.)
9:59:31 (What?)
9:59:36 Unintelligible.
9:59:37 (What?)
9:59:39 Unintelligible.
9:59:41 Unintelligible.
9:59:42 (Trust in Allah, and in him.)
9:59:45 Sit down.
9:59:47 Unintelligible.
9:59:53 Ahh.
9:59:55 Unintelligible.
9:59:58 Ahh.
10:00:06 (There is nothing.)
10:00:07 (Is that it? Shall we finish it off?)
10:00:08 (No. Not yet.)
10:00:09 (When they all come, we finish it off.)
10:00:11 (There is nothing.)
10:00:13 Unintelligible.
10:00:14 Ahh.
10:00:15 I'm injured.
10:00:16 Unintelligible.
10:00:21 Ahh.
10:00:22 (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh gracious.)
10:00:25 In the cockpit. If we don't, we'll die.
10:00:29 (Up, down. Up, down, in the) cockpit.
10:00:33 (The) cockpit.
10:00:37 (Up, down. Saeed, up, down.)
10:00:42 Roll it.
10:00:55 Unintelligible.
10:00:59 (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
10:01:01 Unintelligible.
10:01:08 (Is that it? I mean, shall we pull it down?)
10:01:09 (Yes, put it in it, and pull it down.)
10:01:10 Unintelligible.
10:01:11 (Saeed.)
10:01:12 ... engine ...
10:01:13 Unintelligible.
10:01:16 (Cut off the oxygen.)
10:01:18 (Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen.)
10:01:34 Unintelligible.
10:01:37 Unintelligible.
10:01:41 (Up, down. Up, down.)
10:01:41 (What?)
10:01:42 (Up, down.)
10:01:42 Ahh.
10:01:53 Ahh.
10:01:54 Unintelligible.
10:01:55 Ahh.
10:01:59 Shut them off.
10:02:03 Shut them off.
10:02:14 Go.
10:02:14 Go.
10:02:15 Move.
10:02:16 Move.
10:02:17 Turn it up.
10:02:18 (Down, down.)
10:02:23 (Pull it down. Pull it down.)
10:02:25 Down. Push, push, push, push, push.
10:02:33 (Hey. Hey. Give it to me. Give it to me.)
10:02:35 (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)
10:02:37 (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)
10:02:40 Unintelligible.
10:03:02 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:03 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:04 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:06 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:06 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:07 No.
10:03:09 (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:09 (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
End of transmission
Every Preacher I know has pushed the blame of 9/11 off onto, Islamic. No preacher that I know of, to date has claimed that religion in general as being responsible. I feel this is misused psychology.
Religion is responsible for;
1. 9/11 death toll, 2884 and cost,
2. the Afghanistan war and the total cost, of trillions TAX dollars to you, your children and your grandchildren and your great grand children be paying for.
3. When we and they should be enjoying the benefits of their hard labor tax money.
Please give time now to think America and think of the world in betterment, without religion.
As you all know we all live in a changing environment. Religion is no exception. It is a fact the god concept, within the people who believe in god, has now changed for the worst in the past 5 decades and we atheist feel it will only get worst at an increased scale do to our present and the global economy, in the near further.
It is not, now the correct time to admit that science has caught up with the god concept, as a harmful lie?
A few days after 9/11 the Islamic got on national TV (CNN?) and said;
“our religion is better than your religion. You let your women wear bikinis to the beach. Our Allah will show you the way.”
In my opinion, in a form thereof, in a much lesser form thereof, if you support religion, you ride in the same religious boat as Ben Loden and the teleabond, you are not supportive of ben loden or the telebond of course but you are supportive of religion and religion is now the bigger problem than ben loden and the telabond.
Please check out for yourself, religious wars throughout history, and the death toll.
Today December 25, 2011, “religious bomber” has 8,660,000 different web pages. This is the changing world we live in today!
Therefore;
1. I now cinsider predicting, without a replacement behavioral learning refinement center complex in every city in America, Atheisms will spread, but it will never convert the majority of the general public over to Atheism.
2 I also conceder predicting; the church will or would finally win any bloody civil war here in the U.S., no matter the cost to us or themselves. I feel they would tear America to pieces to save their superstition, without an alternative to religion.
We atheists need to give credit where and when credit is due to the Christians.
Also we as Atheist need to respect their power and therefore their authority over us. We need to accept the fact that we live in a world of give and take.
Also we need to realize that parents who are truly concerned about their children are correct par say, by saying in a form thereof that the god concept is a good, unpaid, and constant babysitter, at this present time.
By Richard Dawkins saying yea we got a problem, without giving a viable solution to this problem, is a pitfall for the growing Atheist movement, because we are born beastly and he leaves out to remedy to the problem.
Richard Dawkins’s motivation is undeniably based on principle, which is a good thing. His you tube video speech, “arrest the pope” (which everyone should watch again from a different stand point) is actually just a starting point, a good solid foundation for the rest of us to build upon.
So let’s build a single multimillion dollar complete scientific behavioral and educational booster complex and therefore we as Atheist can put to proof that we can do a better job of it than Christians can.
Please type in ;The Branson Rec Plex then click on the Branson Rec Plex, it is a model that could be used, because the general public use it. In the summer months it sometimes is so crowed.
I now consider predicting this in point;
The building of just one scientific behavioral complex that would give the church true compation would,, eventually in years to come, put an end to religion forever, par say!
I have a way to pay for this. It would take time and effort and great planning. The financial effort of every atheist in America but I feel confident it will and would work.
I am not ready to proceed any further at this point in time, but if you would like to contact me my
e-mail is;
charleschas111@hotmail.com
I think I will consider starting a nationwide fund raiser. I have some fund raising experience in this area.
Thank your, your new friend, Charlie
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Hello my name is Charles,
I am an atheist activist and therefore now man of principle.
Also I am a, WHAT IF PERSON!
First;
I was at a P. T. A meeting once and it seemed that every parent wanted more, which is a good thing, but no one offered up the money or had the money to pay these things they wanted.
Secondly;
My wife and my 18 year old daughter are best friends with the preacher's wife and family. I therefore have an impossible job of trying to convert my wife and daughter over to atheism.
Third ; Therefore I put to thought what would it take to change them over?
Now that I have laid down 3 pretences, I can say what needs to be said about atheism.
Richard Dawkins is a very noble man to whom I admire but.
The problem with today’s atheism is they have no viable plan of behavioral refinement service that would replace the church’s behavioral refinement service.
A world without any such a standard of behavioral learning refinement center means;
1. Christians are correct when they say, “the world would get worst instead of better without us, the church”, because;
WE ARE BORN PURE BUT BEASTLY AND UNREFINED.
The truth, the fact, is we are born pure and unrefined, almost beastly.
Without children and without adult’s reintroduction or getting a proper behavioral education we will surely become monsters in accordance with this refined world we live in.
In today’s world it is demanded of each one of us by our socially acceptable moral standards and of our lawmakers, to behave ourselves.
This is one of many reasons why we need to build our own scientific behavioral center, complex. This would give the people that attend church a viable option. Give the preacher an honest job within the complex. By giving the preacher an honest job, this would in turn, thus make the preacher and his followers allies instead of an enemy. By teaching children and adults correctly, this important fact would end the controversy, just leave the god lie to history and keep the good parts of religion like, love your neighbor, alive and well. The Japanese people are among the best behaved people in the world, I would love to discover and implement what they are doing here in America.
The better we understand the world we live in, the better we can live our lives. It is just that simply to understand, but with all the religious opposition it is very difficult and expense to accomplish this goal.
We as atheist can’t keep calling Christians liars and leave it at that
Many children, who believe weakly, in God and do not attend church frequently, miss out on much of the behavioral refinement part of their education and they are the most common lawbreaker’s per-kappa percentage wise, when they become adults or are adults and are sent to prison.
I foresee Atheist later on in years to come, doing a complete job with no one left behind, if we Atheist could establish just one full service behavioral center,as good as anyone could ask for.
Religion creates controversy and many other pitfalls like the 9/11 religious tragedy that has cost the U.S. trillions of tax dollars in religious war debt. Our time and our money would be much better spent on other refinements. Also please consider, when is the next religious war and what will be the cost? What is stopping the religiously insane from doing something similar to 9/11 again next week?
(a big truck bomb at the White house, maybe?)
It was religion itself that flew those airplanes into the world trade center, , not the Islamisic’s as your preacher and sometimes the world news has told you and pushed the blame off onto. This is something that your preacher does not want his congregation or the government to be aware of.
Here are the air traffic controllers transcripts from 9/11 decide you yourself;
Sept 11, 2001
Shanksville, Pennsylvania
United Airlines, Flight 93
Boeing B-757-222
N591UA
The aircraft was hijacked after taking off from Newark International Airport. The hijackers took control of the aircraft and turned the plane towards Washington D.C. A struggle ensued between the passengers and hijackers after which the plane crashed at a high rate of speed into a field in the Pennsylvania countryside. It was one of four planes that were hijacked the
same day. All 65 on board were killed.
Text in parentheses was translated from Arabic.
9:31:57 Ladies and gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining seating. We have a bomb on board. So sit.
9:32:09 Er, uh ... Calling Cleveland center ... You're unreadable. Say again slowly.
9:32:10 Don't move. Shut up.
9:32:13 Come on, come.
9:32:16 Shut up.
9:32:17 Don't move.
9:32:18 Stop.
9:32:34 Sit, sit, sit down.
9:32:39 Sit down.
9:32:41 Unintelligible ... (the brother.)
9:32:54 Stop.
9:33:09 No more. Sit down.
9:33:10 (That's it, that's it, that's it), down, down.
9:33:14 Shut up.
9:33:20 Unintelligible
9:33:20 We just, we didn't get it clear ... Is that United 93 calling?
9:33:30 (Jassim.)
9:33:34 (In the name of Allah, the most merciful, the most compassionate.)
9:33:41 Unintelligible.
9:33:43 Finish, no more. No more.
9:33:49 No. No, no, no, no.
9:33:53 No, no, no, no.
9:34:00 Go ahead, lie down. Lie down. Down, down, down.
9:34:06 (There is someone ... Huh?)
9:34:12 Down, down, down. Sit down. Come on, sit down. No, no, no, no, no. No.
9:34:16 Down, down, down.
9:34:21 Down.
9:34:25 No more.
9:34:26 No more. Down.
9:34:27 Please, please, please ...
9:34:28 Down.
9:34:29 Please, please, don't hurt me ...
9:34:30 Down. No more.
9:34:31 Oh God.
9:34:32 Down, down, down.
9:34:33 Sit down.
9:34:34 Shut up.
9:34:42 No more.
9:34:46 (This?)
9:34:47 Yes.
9:34:47 Unintelligible.
9:34:57 (One moment, one moment.)
9:34:59 Unintelligible.
9:35:03 No more.
9:35:06 Down, down, down, down.
9:35:09 No, no, no, no, no, no...
9:35:10 Unintelligible.
9:35:15 Sit down, sit down, sit down.
9:35:17 Down.
9:35:18 (What's this?)
9:35:19 Sit down. Sit down. You know, sit down.
9:35:24 No, no, no.
9:35:30 Down, down, down, down.
9:35:32 Are you talking to me?
9:35:33 No, no, no. Unintelligible.
9:35:35 Down in the airport.
9:35:39 Down, down.
9:35:40 I don't want to die.
9:35:41 No, no. Down, down.
9:35:42 I don't want to die. I don't want to die.
9:35:44 No, no. Down, down, down, down, down, down.
9:35:47 No, no, please.
9:35:57 No.
9:37:06 (That's it. Go back.)
9:37:06 (That's it.) Sit down.
9:37:36 (Everthing is fine. I finished.)
9:38:36 (Yes.)
9:39:11 Ah. Here's the captain. I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet.
9:39:21 OK. That's 93 calling?
9:39:24 (One moment.)
9:39:34 United 93. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.
9:39:42 And center exec jet nine fifty-six. That was the transmission.
9:39:47 OK. Ah. Who called Cleveland?
9:39:52 Executive jet nine fifty-six, did you understand that transmission?
9:39:56 Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board.
9:39:58 That was all you got out of it also?
9:40:01 Affirmative.
9:40:03 Roger.
9:40:03 United 93. Go ahead.
9:40:14 United 93. Go ahead.
9:40:17 Ahhh.
9:40:52 (This green knob?)
9:40:54 (Yes, that's the one.)
9:41:05 United 93, do you hear the Cleveland center?
9:41:14 (One moment. One moment.)
9:41:15 Unintelligible.
9:41:56 Oh man.
9:44:18 (This does not work now.)
9:45:13 Turn it off.
9:45:16 (... Seven thousand ...)
9:45:19 (How about we let them in? We let the guys in now.)
9:45:23 (OK.)
9:45:24 (Should we let the guys in?)
9:45:25 (Inform them, and tell him to talk to the pilot. Bring the pilot back.)
9:45:57 (In the name of Allah. In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no other God, but Allah.)
9:47:31 Unintelligible.
9:47:40 (Allah knows.)
9:48:15 Unintelligible.
9:48:38 Set course.
9:49:37 Unintelligible.
9:51:27 Unintelligible.
9:51:35 Unintelligible.
9:52:02 Unintelligible.
9:52:31 Unintelligible.
9:53:20 (The best thing: The guys will go in, lift up the) ... Unintelligible ... (and they put the axe into it. So, everyone will be scared.)
9:53:27 (Yes.)
9:53:28 (The axe.)
9:53:28 Unintelligible.
9:53:29 (No, not the.)
9:53:35 (Let him look through the window. Let him look through the window.)
9:53:52 Unintelligible.
9:54:09 (Open.)
9:54:11 Unintelligible.
9:55:06 You are ... One ...
9:56:15 Unintelligible.
9:57:55 (Is there something?)
9:57:57 (A fight?)
9:57:59 (Yeah?)
9:58:33 Unintelligible. (Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.)
9:58:41 Ugh.
9:58:43 Ugh.
9:58:44 (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.)
9:58:47 Ugh. Ugh.
9:58:52 Stay back.
9:58:55 In the cockpit.
9:58:57 In the cockpit.
9:58:57 (They want to get in here. Hold, hold from the inside. Hold from the inside. Hold).
9:59:04 Hold the door.
9:59:09 Stop him.
9:59:11 Sit down.
9:59:13 Sit down.
9:59:15 Sit down.
9:59:16 Unintelligible.
9:59:17 (What?)
9:59:18 (There are some guys. All those guys.)
9:59:20 Lets get them.
9:59:25 Sit down.
9:59:29 (What?)
9:59:30 (What.)
9:59:31 (What?)
9:59:36 Unintelligible.
9:59:37 (What?)
9:59:39 Unintelligible.
9:59:41 Unintelligible.
9:59:42 (Trust in Allah, and in him.)
9:59:45 Sit down.
9:59:47 Unintelligible.
9:59:53 Ahh.
9:59:55 Unintelligible.
9:59:58 Ahh.
10:00:06 (There is nothing.)
10:00:07 (Is that it? Shall we finish it off?)
10:00:08 (No. Not yet.)
10:00:09 (When they all come, we finish it off.)
10:00:11 (There is nothing.)
10:00:13 Unintelligible.
10:00:14 Ahh.
10:00:15 I'm injured.
10:00:16 Unintelligible.
10:00:21 Ahh.
10:00:22 (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh gracious.)
10:00:25 In the cockpit. If we don't, we'll die.
10:00:29 (Up, down. Up, down, in the) cockpit.
10:00:33 (The) cockpit.
10:00:37 (Up, down. Saeed, up, down.)
10:00:42 Roll it.
10:00:55 Unintelligible.
10:00:59 (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
10:01:01 Unintelligible.
10:01:08 (Is that it? I mean, shall we pull it down?)
10:01:09 (Yes, put it in it, and pull it down.)
10:01:10 Unintelligible.
10:01:11 (Saeed.)
10:01:12 ... engine ...
10:01:13 Unintelligible.
10:01:16 (Cut off the oxygen.)
10:01:18 (Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen.)
10:01:34 Unintelligible.
10:01:37 Unintelligible.
10:01:41 (Up, down. Up, down.)
10:01:41 (What?)
10:01:42 (Up, down.)
10:01:42 Ahh.
10:01:53 Ahh.
10:01:54 Unintelligible.
10:01:55 Ahh.
10:01:59 Shut them off.
10:02:03 Shut them off.
10:02:14 Go.
10:02:14 Go.
10:02:15 Move.
10:02:16 Move.
10:02:17 Turn it up.
10:02:18 (Down, down.)
10:02:23 (Pull it down. Pull it down.)
10:02:25 Down. Push, push, push, push, push.
10:02:33 (Hey. Hey. Give it to me. Give it to me.)
10:02:35 (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)
10:02:37 (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)
10:02:40 Unintelligible.
10:03:02 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:03 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:04 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:06 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:06 (Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:07 No.
10:03:09 (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
10:03:09 (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
End of transmission
Every Preacher I know has pushed the blame of 9/11 off onto, Islamic. No preacher that I know of, to date has claimed that religion in general as being responsible. I feel this is misused psychology.
Religion is responsible for;
1. 9/11 death toll, 2884 and cost,
2. the Afghanistan war and the total cost, of trillions TAX dollars to you, your children and your grandchildren and your great grand children be paying for.
3. When we and they should be enjoying the benefits of their hard labor tax money.
Please give time now to think America and think of the world in betterment, without religion.
As you all know we all live in a changing environment. Religion is no exception. It is a fact the god concept, within the people who believe in god, has now changed for the worst in the past 5 decades and we atheist feel it will only get worst at an increased scale do to our present and the global economy, in the near further.
It is not, now the correct time to admit that science has caught up with the god concept, as a harmful lie?
A few days after 9/11 the Islamic got on national TV (CNN?) and said;
“our religion is better than your religion. You let your women wear bikinis to the beach. Our Allah will show you the way.”
In my opinion, in a form thereof, in a much lesser form thereof, if you support religion, you ride in the same religious boat as Ben Loden and the teleabond, you are not supportive of ben loden or the telebond of course but you are supportive of religion and religion is now the bigger problem than ben loden and the telabond.
Please check out for yourself, religious wars throughout history, and the death toll.
Today December 25, 2011, “religious bomber” has 8,660,000 different web pages. This is the changing world we live in today!
Therefore;
1. I now cinsider predicting, without a replacement behavioral learning refinement center complex in every city in America, Atheisms will spread, but it will never convert the majority of the general public over to Atheism.
2 I also conceder predicting; the church will or would finally win any bloody civil war here in the U.S., no matter the cost to us or themselves. I feel they would tear America to pieces to save their superstition, without an alternative to religion.
We atheists need to give credit where and when credit is due to the Christians.
Also we as Atheist need to respect their power and therefore their authority over us. We need to accept the fact that we live in a world of give and take.
Also we need to realize that parents who are truly concerned about their children are correct par say, by saying in a form thereof that the god concept is a good, unpaid, and constant babysitter, at this present time.
By Richard Dawkins saying yea we got a problem, without giving a viable solution to this problem, is a pitfall for the growing Atheist movement, because we are born beastly and he leaves out to remedy to the problem.
Richard Dawkins’s motivation is undeniably based on principle, which is a good thing. His you tube video speech, “arrest the pope” (which everyone should watch again from a different stand point) is actually just a starting point, a good solid foundation for the rest of us to build upon.
So let’s build a single multimillion dollar complete scientific behavioral and educational booster complex and therefore we as Atheist can put to proof that we can do a better job of it than Christians can.
Please type in ;The Branson Rec Plex then click on the Branson Rec Plex, it is a model that could be used, because the general public use it. In the summer months it sometimes is so crowed.
I now consider predicting this in point;
The building of just one scientific behavioral complex that would give the church true compation would,, eventually in years to come, put an end to religion forever, par say!
I have a way to pay for this. It would take time and effort and great planning. The financial effort of every atheist in America but I feel confident it will and would work.
I am not ready to proceed any further at this point in time, but if you would like to contact me my
e-mail is;
charleschas111@hotmail.com
I think I will consider starting a nationwide fund raiser. I have some fund raising experience in this area.
Thank your, your new friend, Charlie
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@3 - I'm not quite as sanguine. There are constant resurgences of religious stupidity to be seen in the US, to be sure:
* The 'Creation Museum' in KY
* The regular inroads that creationists try to make in biology classes
* The way the forced-birth crowd continues to push against abortion and other reproductive rights
* The lack of concern by school administrators about bullying of gay students, and
* The continued rape of children by clergy
are all, in one way or another, directly related to the 'christian' practitioners who obsess on intolerant dictates, rather than the actual words of their god. They're so caught up in shoving their specific interpretation of their mythology down everyone else's throat, in other words, that they are more or less literally blind to the hideous acts they perpetrate.
I don't think it's wise to remain silent, and I'm sure you agree on that - and there are times when you have to shout to be heard above the gibbering of the loons.
* The 'Creation Museum' in KY
* The regular inroads that creationists try to make in biology classes
* The way the forced-birth crowd continues to push against abortion and other reproductive rights
* The lack of concern by school administrators about bullying of gay students, and
* The continued rape of children by clergy
are all, in one way or another, directly related to the 'christian' practitioners who obsess on intolerant dictates, rather than the actual words of their god. They're so caught up in shoving their specific interpretation of their mythology down everyone else's throat, in other words, that they are more or less literally blind to the hideous acts they perpetrate.
I don't think it's wise to remain silent, and I'm sure you agree on that - and there are times when you have to shout to be heard above the gibbering of the loons.
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As there is no really solid way for us to test the hypothesis that God exists, the only scientifically valid position to take is that a Creator may exist, but we can't know for certain. And then we can move on with our lives and do some actual research.
As long as no abortion clinics/scientific centers/teaching evolution in schools, etc are attacked, people can believe in whatever makes them feel good. And yes, I'm a biologist in real life.
As long as no abortion clinics/scientific centers/teaching evolution in schools, etc are attacked, people can believe in whatever makes them feel good. And yes, I'm a biologist in real life.
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Atheism is a "godless" religion where the atheist evangelizes to others that they must be "converted." Sounds pretty familiar. Were you there on the day of creation (or day of 'just happening' if you wish), that you are so sure there is no God?
Most atheists get the concept of God mixed up with the concept of religion. Religion is simply mankind's attempt to understand the mind of God. To deny God's existence and role in creation of everything that is or was and shall be-especially if it's a "scientist" doing the denying, is to put the hypothesis out there and call it finished.
Prove to me God does not exist and I still won't believe you because you're just another human seeking the truth like me.
I heard this week on a late night radio show, a scientist's criticism about religion and the belief in God. He said there was no proof of God's existence and that SCIENCE trumped God. I wondered if he might have considered that perhaps the greatest scientific mind in all of historical time was God, the Ultimate Scientist, himself. Forgive me for describing God as male, God is sexless I'm sure. Afterall an entity that just exists and creates doesn't need a sex organ to make it happen. My point is that with my puny mind, I still have to define God in meager human terms to try to understand "Him." We just do not know or understand God because we only have the wet meat between the ears to try to grasp concepts like eternity, the vast unbounded universe and the existence of God.
The universe he created is a place of fire and magic. Each particle of that universe is not only a part of creation, but also a tiny universe itself, made of finer, tinier particles that we are only just beginning to conceptualize and understand. So if our minds are still at the stage where we are constantly scientifically redefining the already created and evolving universe, how can we claim to know for sure what or who God is?
When it comes down to it, God can be the only answer. The very laws of physics state that things only happen when acted upon. So if at the very moment the universe was created or came into being, it had to be a static thing-an object at rest stays at rest until acted upon by an outside force. The universe by this theory could have not created itself, it would have been at rest, static, void, nothing, with nothing in existence to act upon it. Until, hopefully, we die and meet God, how can we even begin to understand something we are only just beginning to comprehend? Iris Dement asked the question very well in her song, "Let the Mystery Be."
I understand God as being totally at peace with himself (there I go again-just can't bring myself to call "Him" 'itself'), he certainly knows how everything's going to turn out. But I can't deny God. There is something in our genetic make-up, a knowing that says He exists and we've created beaucoup religions over time as we've attempted to define Him.
The answer can only come from God. Everything else is just mankind wondering about that which we cannot fully grasp. If I could talk to God, I'd want to know all about Him. Then, ask the Ultimate Scientist a question that still bugs me, "who and why am I?"
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Most atheists get the concept of God mixed up with the concept of religion. Religion is simply mankind's attempt to understand the mind of God. To deny God's existence and role in creation of everything that is or was and shall be-especially if it's a "scientist" doing the denying, is to put the hypothesis out there and call it finished.
Prove to me God does not exist and I still won't believe you because you're just another human seeking the truth like me.
I heard this week on a late night radio show, a scientist's criticism about religion and the belief in God. He said there was no proof of God's existence and that SCIENCE trumped God. I wondered if he might have considered that perhaps the greatest scientific mind in all of historical time was God, the Ultimate Scientist, himself. Forgive me for describing God as male, God is sexless I'm sure. Afterall an entity that just exists and creates doesn't need a sex organ to make it happen. My point is that with my puny mind, I still have to define God in meager human terms to try to understand "Him." We just do not know or understand God because we only have the wet meat between the ears to try to grasp concepts like eternity, the vast unbounded universe and the existence of God.
The universe he created is a place of fire and magic. Each particle of that universe is not only a part of creation, but also a tiny universe itself, made of finer, tinier particles that we are only just beginning to conceptualize and understand. So if our minds are still at the stage where we are constantly scientifically redefining the already created and evolving universe, how can we claim to know for sure what or who God is?
When it comes down to it, God can be the only answer. The very laws of physics state that things only happen when acted upon. So if at the very moment the universe was created or came into being, it had to be a static thing-an object at rest stays at rest until acted upon by an outside force. The universe by this theory could have not created itself, it would have been at rest, static, void, nothing, with nothing in existence to act upon it. Until, hopefully, we die and meet God, how can we even begin to understand something we are only just beginning to comprehend? Iris Dement asked the question very well in her song, "Let the Mystery Be."
I understand God as being totally at peace with himself (there I go again-just can't bring myself to call "Him" 'itself'), he certainly knows how everything's going to turn out. But I can't deny God. There is something in our genetic make-up, a knowing that says He exists and we've created beaucoup religions over time as we've attempted to define Him.
The answer can only come from God. Everything else is just mankind wondering about that which we cannot fully grasp. If I could talk to God, I'd want to know all about Him. Then, ask the Ultimate Scientist a question that still bugs me, "who and why am I?"
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For someone who wants Atheists to prove something because of lack of facts that God doesn't exist you sure have a lot of statements that need proving to believe in.
"I understand God", really? "God can be the only answer". And how can you know that?
The existence of God can not be proved or refuted currently (possibly ever) but to align with the side that continues to claim they know things and, as it turns out, don't is to be making an illogical stance. Science continues to prove it's worth with actual evidence. When has God given us something useful? Has the cure for a disease come from the sky, ever? Scientist have done that.
Are you going to prove your faith by skipping the doctor and going to church or are you going to show your real faith and hit up the hospital and human SCIENTIFIC discovery instead?
"I understand God", really? "God can be the only answer". And how can you know that?
The existence of God can not be proved or refuted currently (possibly ever) but to align with the side that continues to claim they know things and, as it turns out, don't is to be making an illogical stance. Science continues to prove it's worth with actual evidence. When has God given us something useful? Has the cure for a disease come from the sky, ever? Scientist have done that.
Are you going to prove your faith by skipping the doctor and going to church or are you going to show your real faith and hit up the hospital and human SCIENTIFIC discovery instead?
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