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STEVEN Weissman
I had to catch my breath when I saw your authentic SS uniform on Halloween night. Your Totenkopf and Schirmmütze gave it away. It wasn't goth. It wasn't fetishwear. It was real, and it was in a gay-friendly club on Capitol Hill in the year 2009. You didn't wear a swastika—you are a closet Nazi. You wanted to fly under the radar so that only those who understood could see. And be frightened. You quietly snarled that it was "political commentary." I responded that your SS uniform was louder than whatever political statement you wanted to make. Only hours later did it occur to me that fascism actually WAS your political statement. After your friend made an anti-Semitic comment, I reported you to the person working the door. She told me she's Jewish and was offended by your "costume" but let you in because you "were so polite."
I should have made more of a scene. I should have gotten you kicked
out. I should have had a better comeback for you than "Du bist ein
Idiot!" You are so lacking in eigene Eier, you have to glorify a
sad, fucked-up history that you do not understand. If we meet again, I
will stop at nothing to have you and your hate physically removed from
the vicinity. And if said staff cannot be bothered, I will kick your
*SS back into your Nazi closet all by my dirndl-wearin', gothic-lovin',
PFLAG-joinin' self! 
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Ew. You met an asshole out in public. They should all be locked up. Or sent away somewhere, huh? Assholes suck. Only nice people should be allowed in clubs where nice people go. I hate when I have to see someone who offends me and violates my right to not be offended.
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I wonder if it was the same guy who wore his authentic Waffen-SS uniform to a Halloween party I was at years ago. He said he wore it as a tribute to the bravery of the SS soldiers. Probably not.
Oh well. Keep on fighting your little battles over people's offensive costumes, dirdl.
Oh well. Keep on fighting your little battles over people's offensive costumes, dirdl.
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Yeah, it figures that the Stranger readers just shrug their shoulders. They can't be bothered to care about anything, to call bullshit when it's needed, or see that certain things matter.
Sure guys, let's be apathetic about Nazism, or its representation. My grandfather served in the German army during WWII, and I would not stand to see anyone try to glorify that truly wretched period of history by wearing a uniform that represents hate and genocide.
Sure guys, let's be apathetic about Nazism, or its representation. My grandfather served in the German army during WWII, and I would not stand to see anyone try to glorify that truly wretched period of history by wearing a uniform that represents hate and genocide.
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HATE and Intolerance has no place in Seattle. If I saw that asshole, I would bind him head to toe to a pole on the street, so passerby's could have a little chat..and I would make sure he stayed bound to that pole, until he got the message.
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#8 16334578
I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts. I mean it was really awesome that they killed more people than the Nazis did.
I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts. I mean it was really awesome that they killed more people than the Nazis did.
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Oh, I don't know. The only problem w/ this IA is it didn't go far enough. I'd love to see a bunch of crunchy-green lefties kicking the shit out of a nazi-clad asswipe. Rob him & send him home bloodied w/ his clothes torn off & a big swastika painted on his chest. That'd be cool.
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@8 "Yeah, it figures that the Stranger readers just shrug their shoulders. "
You're funny. Categorizing people in an effort to warn against the evils of categorizing people. Great stuff.
You're funny. Categorizing people in an effort to warn against the evils of categorizing people. Great stuff.
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@Anthropomorhpise Me Well, that's not common knowledge, and the fact that he chooses to wear a Nazi uniform, as opposed to say, a Chinese one, shows not only a blatant disregard for the victims but also a desire to publicly broadcast it.
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Seriously? You people aren't bothered by insignias specific to concentration camps? What the fuck is wrong with you all?
Also, @12: Please, bring up more mass murderer fuckwits. Stalin, maybe? He's always a favorite. It really diminishes how horrible the holocaust was.
... Oh wait.
Also, @12: Please, bring up more mass murderer fuckwits. Stalin, maybe? He's always a favorite. It really diminishes how horrible the holocaust was.
... Oh wait.
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@8, you obviously don't read many of these boards. dear lord, people care. WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE CARE!
pretty sure this guy in the costume got exactly what he wanted. how dare we not care??? ironically you're the one who's acting like a nazi. threatening violence over a costume, ON HALLOWEEN!!?!?!
welcome to planet earth. here's some homework; howard stern, marilyn manson, rush limbaugh, steve-o, 80% of all internet sites.....these things will shock you. in time you'll realize life is wasted on the angry.
next time you see this guy either a) engage in a rational conversation or b) walk away. try saving the world some other way.
pretty sure this guy in the costume got exactly what he wanted. how dare we not care??? ironically you're the one who's acting like a nazi. threatening violence over a costume, ON HALLOWEEN!!?!?!
welcome to planet earth. here's some homework; howard stern, marilyn manson, rush limbaugh, steve-o, 80% of all internet sites.....these things will shock you. in time you'll realize life is wasted on the angry.
next time you see this guy either a) engage in a rational conversation or b) walk away. try saving the world some other way.
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It was a solid political comment...if the comment was that you fucking losers would rather cry a river, in fact literally could not wait to, about someone wearing an offensive costume at a social event than get off your bitch asses and actually do something tangibly, measurably positive for a living, breathing human being in need. The PC police always have their priorities straight.
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@ #8 che killed more the nazis? really?
what history history book did you get that from?
go blow glen beck you right wing retard.
what history history book did you get that from?
go blow glen beck you right wing retard.
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Since when? Or are you trying to be coy by leaving out the millions upon millions of people Hitler killed in his war?
I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts. I mean it was really awesome that they killed more people than the Nazis did.
Since when? Or are you trying to be coy by leaving out the millions upon millions of people Hitler killed in his war?
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I've been wondering what the consequences of my actions would be if I wore more racist clothing out in public. Passive-aggressive anonymous notes in the local newspaper? Sounds like someone is going to be wearing her "Sambo's Pancakes" t-shirt to school tomorrow!
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*clears throat
1. @ Everyone, stop trying to kill each other.
2. Agree on the fact that Nazis are idiots. And quit comparing genocides, all genocide is horrific, none is better than the other.
3. Yeah, the guy was an *sshole, an idiotic, ignorant *sshole. But (agreeing with 21) attacking someone over a costume is also idiotic, and will definitely make you look the part. There are too many things to get angry over, this is one of them, but he will get his. He's simply too much of an idiot not to get yelled at.
1. @ Everyone, stop trying to kill each other.
2. Agree on the fact that Nazis are idiots. And quit comparing genocides, all genocide is horrific, none is better than the other.
3. Yeah, the guy was an *sshole, an idiotic, ignorant *sshole. But (agreeing with 21) attacking someone over a costume is also idiotic, and will definitely make you look the part. There are too many things to get angry over, this is one of them, but he will get his. He's simply too much of an idiot not to get yelled at.
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@23 Who says we don't help "living breathing people?" Easy enough to for you to think we don't, because apparently you don't get up off your bitch ass and work alongside us helping people in need.
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I have a friend whos Uncle was SS. She doesnt a big deal about it. She is half Cuban, she doesnt care. You do, why?
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Sorry, just can't be that witty when a topic STARTS with Godwin's Law. Can we say idiot troll in public = yawn?
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Nazis should be rounded up, arrested, taken to camps, forced to work, and then...wait a minute..
Well, they should have their asses kicked at least..
Well, they should have their asses kicked at least..
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Whatever happened to good old throwing a drink in someone's face?
You get your drama and leave vindicated, and Nazipunk fucks off with a shamed face, if not a dry cleaning bill.
An audience loves it more than a riot act being read, trust me.
You get your drama and leave vindicated, and Nazipunk fucks off with a shamed face, if not a dry cleaning bill.
An audience loves it more than a riot act being read, trust me.
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I have to give the whole thing a resounding - meh.
Haters hating on haters - wow.
@37 for the win!
Haters hating on haters - wow.
@37 for the win!
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You're the Nazi here. You wanted to silence political commentary simply because you don't agree with it. Did Fred Phelps or Dick Cheney write this garbage?
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I suppose if the guy in question had worn a white sheet and hood and carried around a noose, everyone would be cool with that as well? I mean, it's just political commentary, right? or "Chillax! It's Halloween."
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@40 What if it's a black dude dressed up as kkk for halloween? Would it be racist, political commentary, humor, a Blazing Saddles homage, or would everyone's brain circuits fry and not be able to reach a consensus?
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I don't know how many Che Guevara (aka "The Butcher of La Cabana") killed personally, but it is well-known that Soviet and Chinese communism each have a death toll that outranks the Nazis.
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What about dressing as a catholic priest, cardinal or pope? (Of course, an SS uni might be Joey Ratz's off-hours garb.)
If you're comparing genocide, no one beats the Spanish Inquisition!
If you're comparing genocide, no one beats the Spanish Inquisition!
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What is up w/ you idiots over the genocide count? Mao, Stalin, Hitler, they had no true political difference, they were all dictators. What is your point, nut sack (43), are you trying to forgive Hitler because he wasn't as bad as two other historical figures you know about? What about Pol Pot or Mehmed VI or Robert Mugabe?
And your false equivalency just proves was idiots you are. Wearing a t-shirt w/ Mao on it is very different than dressing up in a uniform of the Red Guard under the Cultural Revolution. The latter *knows* who & what they're representing and doesn't have a problem with it. The former is probably another idiot using false equivalencies to support his weak theories.
At least there are some people who get it right: genocide is morally reprehensible. Doesn't matter who, doesn't matter when.
And your false equivalency just proves was idiots you are. Wearing a t-shirt w/ Mao on it is very different than dressing up in a uniform of the Red Guard under the Cultural Revolution. The latter *knows* who & what they're representing and doesn't have a problem with it. The former is probably another idiot using false equivalencies to support his weak theories.
At least there are some people who get it right: genocide is morally reprehensible. Doesn't matter who, doesn't matter when.
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I just pooped in my hand. I suppose that makes me a Nazi now too, huh? To hell with you and your prefabricated prevarications.
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Wow--people really think there are military uniforms that DON'T represent hate and genocide? Tsk.
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I don't advocate violence, but there's nothing wrong with calling an idiot an idiot.
>I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts.
Never seen someone dressed up as MAO or Che. How the hell would anyone recognize them anyway?
>funny, no one gets pissy when people dress up as Christopher Columbus....
Probably because 1- nobody dressed up like Christopher Columbus and
2- If anyone did, nobody would know who the hell he was dressed up as.
Get real - everybody recognizes Hitler's image. Everybody knows people will get upset at seeing a nazi uniform - the douchebag in the uniform was obviously trying to upset people so why shouldn't people call him an idiot? Isn't that the negative attention he's looking for anyway? Serves him right.
>I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts.
Never seen someone dressed up as MAO or Che. How the hell would anyone recognize them anyway?
>funny, no one gets pissy when people dress up as Christopher Columbus....
Probably because 1- nobody dressed up like Christopher Columbus and
2- If anyone did, nobody would know who the hell he was dressed up as.
Get real - everybody recognizes Hitler's image. Everybody knows people will get upset at seeing a nazi uniform - the douchebag in the uniform was obviously trying to upset people so why shouldn't people call him an idiot? Isn't that the negative attention he's looking for anyway? Serves him right.
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It all depends on how many people were wearing SS uniforms that night. One? Amusing, and maybe hot. Two? Cute, if they were together. Twenty? Hmm. Sounds like a Log Cabin Club meeting.
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I suspect the writer is German. And I suspect the Germans are touchy about Nazis the way Americans are touchy about slavery, only moreso.
In Germany you can get away with blackface in adverising, and in the US you can get away with an SS uniform as fetish gear. It's the circle of life.
In Germany you can get away with blackface in adverising, and in the US you can get away with an SS uniform as fetish gear. It's the circle of life.
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It's a fucking costume. On Halloween. Get over yourself you uptight bed-wetting Seattle puss.
SS uniforms look badass, anyway. Nazis had good style, what can I say? Doesn't mean I'm not proud that my grandfather killed the fuckers for several years of his life.
SS uniforms look badass, anyway. Nazis had good style, what can I say? Doesn't mean I'm not proud that my grandfather killed the fuckers for several years of his life.
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The author fails to mention that the accused, "Nazi" was also wearing a G.W. Bush mask, hence the political commentary. & I don't threats of attacking a patron at our night lightly. Should the author come back & try to start a fight, they will be asked to leave.
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In what is now unified Germany, the swastika and other forms of inappropriate political dissent, are ILLEGAL.
Assholes sporting Nazi or George W. Bush drag in American public places notwithstanding, is the correct response found in "honoring" their repugnance by "banning" their presence? This only serves to (I hate to say it) embolden their sense of indignation, thus empowering their mind-malleable, youthful recruits.
Is it not better to simply shun them socially, and focus on spreading a widely cast positive message of democracy, equality, historical accuracy, political tolerance, regardless of their seemingly ignorant and obsolete symbolism?
Assholes sporting Nazi or George W. Bush drag in American public places notwithstanding, is the correct response found in "honoring" their repugnance by "banning" their presence? This only serves to (I hate to say it) embolden their sense of indignation, thus empowering their mind-malleable, youthful recruits.
Is it not better to simply shun them socially, and focus on spreading a widely cast positive message of democracy, equality, historical accuracy, political tolerance, regardless of their seemingly ignorant and obsolete symbolism?
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Well, the addition of the GWB mask into all this, for me, absolves the costume-wearer from all guilt. Up to the point of learning this insanely salient fact, I was in the camp (ooopsie!) of criticizing the guy's choice of costume and agreeing in spirit with @40.
But now it's clear the guy took care to remove the swastikas AND his point (overdone and hackneyed as it may be) of equating GWB with fascism was pretty damn clear as well.
Oh, and throwing a drink in someone's face is assault. It plays well in 1930s movies, but that's pretend. Movies. Are pretend.
But now it's clear the guy took care to remove the swastikas AND his point (overdone and hackneyed as it may be) of equating GWB with fascism was pretty damn clear as well.
Oh, and throwing a drink in someone's face is assault. It plays well in 1930s movies, but that's pretend. Movies. Are pretend.
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@46 - Yes, that is exactly what I'm trying to do. Forgive Hitler. What the fuck?
I merely pointing out that yes, Che and Mao t-shirts represent murderous dictatorships that committed more murder than the Nazis. I haven't seen any Pol Pot t-shirts or related clothing.
You are correct in that most people who wear those shirts are probably not fully aware of what they represent, which is basically what @12 was saying.
I merely pointing out that yes, Che and Mao t-shirts represent murderous dictatorships that committed more murder than the Nazis. I haven't seen any Pol Pot t-shirts or related clothing.
You are correct in that most people who wear those shirts are probably not fully aware of what they represent, which is basically what @12 was saying.
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At least he was polite when he entered the club. You know why Hitler didn't drink gin? Cause it made him mean.
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@59, exactly. The omission of that detail sent this I, Anonymous from kinda dumb (why didn't you ask him what the political statement was before going ballistic?) to flat-out ludicrous. Agree with the sentiment or don't, but the commentary is clear and it ain't about glorifying Nazis.
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52 is absolutely correct.
To anyone who understands anything about modern German history and culture, the glorification of the Nazi regime is perhaps the most offensive statement that one can make.
If you do not understand this, if you can only see the world from your limited American point of view, well, that is just sad.
For those of us who have a broader perspective of the world, we tend to agree with the author of this note.
To anyone who understands anything about modern German history and culture, the glorification of the Nazi regime is perhaps the most offensive statement that one can make.
If you do not understand this, if you can only see the world from your limited American point of view, well, that is just sad.
For those of us who have a broader perspective of the world, we tend to agree with the author of this note.
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What a lamo. Both in this account.
Usually the letters are witty and smart.
This is just boring. Booo!
Usually the letters are witty and smart.
This is just boring. Booo!
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@43 / @ 12: "out ranks"? "More murders"?
that's like saying you won't dare support Ted Bundy because he's a pussy compared to Gary Ridgeway.
It's not a competition. If you feel like you have a horse in THIS race, you are lock-uppable.
More importantly, I agree with 41: it's sad that the asshat in the uniform got all the attention and more that he was whoring for. Thanks, The Stranger!
@48: I give you - Snap Crackle and Pop.
@56/57: s'cool how there's a free drink policy at your work, but maybe stay off the interwebs after partaking. Missing a club there?
@59/62: so you're not creeped out by the fact it was an actual nazi uniform, a hard to get item: something they likely sought out, researched, scoured through nazi fansites (or nazi families that liked the uniform enough to KEEP it) to find and then paid money for?? The statement with GW's face = fine, which I think the OP said too. Free speech isn't being argued. But the message was creepy.
My question is : But was the private-collection vintage 'authentic Uniform', NOT COSTUME, appropriate? How bout this: how bout a vintage 1943 prisoner uniform, pink-triangle-on-yellow on the sleeve, complete with actual blood stains? How's that work for ya? Is it still "No big deal, it's just halloween"?
[Or are you going to try and compete again and tell me how chinese prisoner uniforms are much harder to get...]
that's like saying you won't dare support Ted Bundy because he's a pussy compared to Gary Ridgeway.
It's not a competition. If you feel like you have a horse in THIS race, you are lock-uppable.
More importantly, I agree with 41: it's sad that the asshat in the uniform got all the attention and more that he was whoring for. Thanks, The Stranger!
@48: I give you - Snap Crackle and Pop.
@56/57: s'cool how there's a free drink policy at your work, but maybe stay off the interwebs after partaking. Missing a club there?
@59/62: so you're not creeped out by the fact it was an actual nazi uniform, a hard to get item: something they likely sought out, researched, scoured through nazi fansites (or nazi families that liked the uniform enough to KEEP it) to find and then paid money for?? The statement with GW's face = fine, which I think the OP said too. Free speech isn't being argued. But the message was creepy.
My question is : But was the private-collection vintage 'authentic Uniform', NOT COSTUME, appropriate? How bout this: how bout a vintage 1943 prisoner uniform, pink-triangle-on-yellow on the sleeve, complete with actual blood stains? How's that work for ya? Is it still "No big deal, it's just halloween"?
[Or are you going to try and compete again and tell me how chinese prisoner uniforms are much harder to get...]
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this is america, halloween or not people can wear whatever they want as long as they cover their ugly parts. He may be a douche but he has that right. if you didn't like it you could have left. instead you let him know that his point was received which was probably a giant ego boost to him. you probably made his night.
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@66: You can get replica uniforms (including the details the author mentioned) online, some of which are deliberately designed to be indistinguishable from the real thing. What makes you (or the author) think it was actual vintage?
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@68--Since the author missed the GWB mask, my guess is it probably isn't.
Lord knows I keep my own vintage Nazi gear in sealed up in the kind of bags usually used for five-thousand dollar wedding dresses. Right next to the vintage camp uniforms.
@66--In fact, There's NOTHING (within bounds of community standards of body modesty) that's inappropriate for Halloween. That's the magic of it all!
Lord knows I keep my own vintage Nazi gear in sealed up in the kind of bags usually used for five-thousand dollar wedding dresses. Right next to the vintage camp uniforms.
@66--In fact, There's NOTHING (within bounds of community standards of body modesty) that's inappropriate for Halloween. That's the magic of it all!
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How are you any different from all the muslims in middle-east protesting, rioting and killing against the cartoons published in Danish newpapers ?
If this world has to be tolerant, we have to change ourselves before we point fingures at others. Anti-Nazism isnt any less dangerous than Nazism itself.
If this world has to be tolerant, we have to change ourselves before we point fingures at others. Anti-Nazism isnt any less dangerous than Nazism itself.
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Just because it was a German military uniform used during the Nazi time does not make it purely represent Nazism, anymore than the current Marine's dress uniforms and insignias represent Liberalism, or represented Republicanism through most of the Iraq war. Both the totenkopf and the schirmmutze were used in the German military prior to the rise of the National Socialist Movement. Don't villify Germans and balk at symbols that don't even represent what offends you (unless death in the form of the Death's Head itself offends you, in which case get over it). I'd wager that the large majority of Germans, even in WWII, that wore those fought for the greatness of Germany and not for the extermination of the Nazi-prescribed Untermenschen.
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OMG! I have an opinion too! -Wait- no-YES! Crap, I didn't study for this, was this in the chapter we were supposed to read last night? Fooey. Why is this still being argued over.
Dirndl didn't mention the G.W mask, which means (1) They aren't observant (so we question the authenticity of the uniform), (2) was Drunk as a skunk and didn't realize it was a G.W jab.(again, we should question many of Dirndl's points) (3) The guy took it off before Dirndl saw it. -cause masks are hot (temperature wise, in a bar, hot damn the guy must have been dying) at which point, bad on the wearer's part for not flashing the mask when s/he started getting the stink eye from people.
So, in closing... Did I pass? OMG I need at least a C+ to graduate! *pitiable crying*
Dirndl didn't mention the G.W mask, which means (1) They aren't observant (so we question the authenticity of the uniform), (2) was Drunk as a skunk and didn't realize it was a G.W jab.(again, we should question many of Dirndl's points) (3) The guy took it off before Dirndl saw it. -cause masks are hot (temperature wise, in a bar, hot damn the guy must have been dying) at which point, bad on the wearer's part for not flashing the mask when s/he started getting the stink eye from people.
So, in closing... Did I pass? OMG I need at least a C+ to graduate! *pitiable crying*
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There are some serious speds posting here. I was not trying to say one atrocity was "better" than the other. I was questioning the author's outrage at other mass murderers. Do they go up to people with Mao or Che t-shirts and give them crap? Are they offended?
Somehow I doubt it.
I find that people who wear Nazi, Mao, or Che crap to be complete @ssholes.
I drive a Dodge Stratus!
Somehow I doubt it.
I find that people who wear Nazi, Mao, or Che crap to be complete @ssholes.
I drive a Dodge Stratus!
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@77- that point is debatable- Apparently they did some tailoring, but were not responsible for the complete uniform/ much less the whole Wehrmacht's "look".
@66- Started off great (Snap, Crackle, Pop?!! Hilariously clever reference- true, too!) but run out of gas on the uniform. Genuine 'real' SS? Gestapo Sound of Music Badguy uniforms are worth, literally THOUSANDS of dollars now. None would be worn at a Halloween party, much less a 'gay' one on Capitol Hill. The writer does say it was real, but pfft- drunk, belligerent, ultra PC wouldn't know the difference between Heer (army) and SS (ultra Nazi badguys), anyway.
Most of the debate on here was interesting until the fact that the not only did the guy have no swastikas on his supposedly "real" uniform AND a GW Bush mask on. Um, that would've be a pretty nice fact to know before all of it, but I guess then it would've been moot- BORING.
I'll tell you though: I laughed at this I, anonymous 'cos this was my exact same costume this Halloween and one dipshit DID try to get froggy with me over it. I must also mention I'm 5'7" ,skinny, long greasy hair, tattoos and bullshit. Hardly the pic of an Aryan, eh? Retard. Yeah, it's HALLOWEEN, dude.
@66- Started off great (Snap, Crackle, Pop?!! Hilariously clever reference- true, too!) but run out of gas on the uniform. Genuine 'real' SS? Gestapo Sound of Music Badguy uniforms are worth, literally THOUSANDS of dollars now. None would be worn at a Halloween party, much less a 'gay' one on Capitol Hill. The writer does say it was real, but pfft- drunk, belligerent, ultra PC wouldn't know the difference between Heer (army) and SS (ultra Nazi badguys), anyway.
Most of the debate on here was interesting until the fact that the not only did the guy have no swastikas on his supposedly "real" uniform AND a GW Bush mask on. Um, that would've be a pretty nice fact to know before all of it, but I guess then it would've been moot- BORING.
I'll tell you though: I laughed at this I, anonymous 'cos this was my exact same costume this Halloween and one dipshit DID try to get froggy with me over it. I must also mention I'm 5'7" ,skinny, long greasy hair, tattoos and bullshit. Hardly the pic of an Aryan, eh? Retard. Yeah, it's HALLOWEEN, dude.
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WTF? It's Halloween! Get over it.
Yes, the Holocaust was a REALLY BAD THING. We must never forget it. So this guy reminded you. Get over it. Look, I probably lost many ancestors and relatives I'll never know to Hitler's army. But it's done. Nothing I can do about it except try to prevent that kind of intolerance and horrific violence from happening again.
And now here comes this guy, threatening PHYSICAL VIOLENCE against another guy who's just wearing an offensive costume!!
I wonder if he would want such costume wearers rounded up, "concentrated" if you will, into camps, you know, where they will never offend again. Would that solve the problem? Huh?
In the circle of life, it's amazing how quickly (and often) the victims turn around to become the oppressors.
Yes, the Holocaust was a REALLY BAD THING. We must never forget it. So this guy reminded you. Get over it. Look, I probably lost many ancestors and relatives I'll never know to Hitler's army. But it's done. Nothing I can do about it except try to prevent that kind of intolerance and horrific violence from happening again.
And now here comes this guy, threatening PHYSICAL VIOLENCE against another guy who's just wearing an offensive costume!!
I wonder if he would want such costume wearers rounded up, "concentrated" if you will, into camps, you know, where they will never offend again. Would that solve the problem? Huh?
In the circle of life, it's amazing how quickly (and often) the victims turn around to become the oppressors.
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If all you people that cared about it REALLY cared about it you would get together and build a time machine already. Hitler's not gonna murder himself!
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@25, "I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts. I mean it was really awesome that they killed more people than the Nazis did.
Since when? Or are you trying to be coy by leaving out the millions upon millions of people Hitler killed in his war?
Uh, google "gulag", "Stalin" "Mao" "Cultural Revolution", "Pol Pot", "Killing Fields"
Fact is, the Communists killed up to 100 million people in the 20th century through mass executions, imprisonments and slave-labor programs, policy-induced famines, and war-the Soviet Union could have made short work of the Wehrmact had not Stalin purged the Red Army of competent leaders in the 1930s. They lost 37 million people in WW II. And yet Communist iconography is somehow not offensive!
Since when? Or are you trying to be coy by leaving out the millions upon millions of people Hitler killed in his war?
Uh, google "gulag", "Stalin" "Mao" "Cultural Revolution", "Pol Pot", "Killing Fields"
Fact is, the Communists killed up to 100 million people in the 20th century through mass executions, imprisonments and slave-labor programs, policy-induced famines, and war-the Soviet Union could have made short work of the Wehrmact had not Stalin purged the Red Army of competent leaders in the 1930s. They lost 37 million people in WW II. And yet Communist iconography is somehow not offensive!
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@25, "I am sure you are really offended by people who wear MAO or Che shirts. I mean it was really awesome that they killed more people than the Nazis did.
Since when? Or are you trying to be coy by leaving out the millions upon millions of people Hitler killed in his war?
Uh, google "gulag", "Stalin" "Mao" "Cultural Revolution", "Pol Pot", "Killing Fields"
Fact is, the Communists killed up to 100 million people in the 20th century through mass executions, imprisonments and slave-labor programs, policy-induced famines, and war-the Soviet Union could have made short work of the Wehrmact had not Stalin purged the Red Army of competent leaders in the 1930s. They lost 26.6 million people in WW II. China lost 20-30 million during the Great Leap Forward-induced famine in 1958-59. They lost another 750,000 to 1.5 million during the Cultural Revolution. The Pol Pot regime in Cambodia killed 1.4 to 2.2 million. Two and a half to 3 million people died in the North Korea famine of the mid Nineties-10% of their population! And yet Communist iconography is somehow not offensive!
Since when? Or are you trying to be coy by leaving out the millions upon millions of people Hitler killed in his war?
Uh, google "gulag", "Stalin" "Mao" "Cultural Revolution", "Pol Pot", "Killing Fields"
Fact is, the Communists killed up to 100 million people in the 20th century through mass executions, imprisonments and slave-labor programs, policy-induced famines, and war-the Soviet Union could have made short work of the Wehrmact had not Stalin purged the Red Army of competent leaders in the 1930s. They lost 26.6 million people in WW II. China lost 20-30 million during the Great Leap Forward-induced famine in 1958-59. They lost another 750,000 to 1.5 million during the Cultural Revolution. The Pol Pot regime in Cambodia killed 1.4 to 2.2 million. Two and a half to 3 million people died in the North Korea famine of the mid Nineties-10% of their population! And yet Communist iconography is somehow not offensive!
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"And yet Communist iconography is somehow not offensive!"
Thank you, that is a point others have tried to make. Prepare to be accused of defending Hitler now.
Thank you, that is a point others have tried to make. Prepare to be accused of defending Hitler now.
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Wow!, what a uptight(reading way to much into it) self rightgeous little twinkle of halloween bummer you are!
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Wasn't the author's issue that the dude owned REALLY AUTHENTIC Nazi garb? Like, not some thrown-together Nazi-TYPE outfit assembled just for the purpose of an attack at GWB? From actually talking to these people she learned that they were really anti-semites. So it wasn't just about the costume, and 'Oh hey whatevs it's Halloween' isn't an effective dismissal.
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The biggest tragedy here is that some really cool fashions, like the peaked cap, long leather or wool coat, and tall boots are stamped indelibly with the taint of the Nazis and the SS and what they stood for. No one can wear clothing like that again without being thought as making a political statement instead of just looking good in their clothes.
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How are you any different from all the muslims in middle-east protesting, rioting and killing against the cartoons published in Danish newpapers ?
Um, because he's not rioting and killing. HUGE difference.
Furthermore this Mohammad cartoon didn't make fun of murdering Muslims or Arabs. I have to agree with a previous post- someone dressed like the KKK would not be defended.
How are you any different from all the muslims in middle-east protesting, rioting and killing against the cartoons published in Danish newpapers ?
Um, because he's not rioting and killing. HUGE difference.
Furthermore this Mohammad cartoon didn't make fun of murdering Muslims or Arabs. I have to agree with a previous post- someone dressed like the KKK would not be defended.
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Bit late to this party but I just have to say it;
"Your dressed as DRACULA, do you know how many people Vlad The Impaler killed?"
"Your dressed as DRACULA, do you know how many people Vlad The Impaler killed?"
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What the author forgot to mention was that he was wearing a George W Bush mask & a reproduction Nazi uniform. Make your own conclusions.
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