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Rob McKenna thinks you’re stupid. 
He thinks all voters in King County are stupid. 
How stupid? Stupid enough to vote for him.

But You’re Not 
That Stupid Are you?

Rob McKenna thinks you’re stupid. 
He thinks all voters in King County are stupid. 
How stupid? Stupid enough to vote for him.

Hey, you.

Yeah, you. You boutique-tequila-swilling Capitol Hill hipsters with contrarian streaks. You old-timey Seattle liberals who pine for the mythical days of the "Dan Evans Republican." You Subaru-driving soccer moms who are too "independent-minded" to slavishly follow the SECB Cheat Sheet (see page 16). Republican Rob McKenna thinks you're stupid.

He thinks you're an idiot. He thinks you're a fucking moron. He thinks you're dumb enough to vote for him.

We know. We know how good it can feel to say you didn't vote a straight Democratic ticket, especially given how disappointing some Democrats can be. So if you need to scratch that ticket-splitting itch, show some love for Republican Bill Finkbeiner for lieutenant governor, who at least opposes his party's hateful social agenda. But don't vote for McKenna. Because you're not that stupid.

Say it with us: "I'm not as stupid as Rob McKenna thinks I am."

Rob McKenna has been running for governor his entire adult life. And his whole electoral strategy has always relied on tricking enough King County voters—voters like you—into believing he's not another one of those Republicans. McKenna doesn't want you to think he's one of those Romney/Ryan class-warfare-waging, Koch-sucking GOPers who wants to bust unions, repeal Obamacare, ban gay marriage, outlaw abortion, and unravel what remains of the social safety net, all in the service of cutting taxes on corporations and millionaires.

It is an electoral strategy that almost worked for Dino Rossi in 2004, and one that McKenna has been expertly executing for years. You may have seen those posters asking you to vote for President Obama, R-74, and Rob McKenna—McKenna opposes both President Obama and R-74—and it's clever messaging. It is also a complete and total fucking lie. And McKenna is praying that you're stupid enough to fall for it.

But you're not that stupid, are you?

McKenna Needs King County

No Republican can win statewide office while getting his ass kicked in King County.

While we account for only 30 percent of the statewide vote, it is our nearly two-to-one Democratic advantage that keeps Washington reliably, if modestly, blue. To win a statewide race, a Republican has to appeal to voters who routinely and regularly vote Democratic. In the 32 years since they last won the governor's mansion, Republicans have averaged only 36.8 percent of King County's gubernatorial vote.

Nothing better demonstrates the electoral hurdle King County poses for Republicans than Dino Rossi's two losing gubernatorial bids.

In 2004, Rossi shrugged off divisive social issues in an attempt to present himself to voters in King County as a competent fiscal manager. Asked about his stance on abortion, Rossi famously quipped, "I'm not running for the Supreme Court." An overconfident Chris Gregoire failed to use the opportunity to define her opponent, and Rossi's tabula rossi strategy fooled thousands of "Dinocrats."

Rossi captured 40.1 percent of the King County vote, the highest Republican percentage since 1984, a political era before the GOP had completed its transformation from the Party of Lincoln to the Party of Lexus. It was enough to propel Rossi into a statistical tie with Gregoire.

Four years later, a wiser and more aggressive Gregoire campaign didn't make the same mistake. They made sure voters knew what kind of Republican Rossi really is—voters learned of his opposition to choice and environmental regulations, they learned of his support for cutting the state's popularly approved minimum wage—and, confronted with the real Rossi, the Dinocrats faded away. Despite a substantially larger electorate, Rossi won 25,000 fewer King County votes in 2008 than he had just four years before. Gregoire won with a comfortable seven-point statewide margin.

Were you one of the 25,000 King County voters who cast a ballot for Rossi in 2004, only to think better of it four years later? Rob McKenna not only wants your vote, he is counting on it. And McKenna has proved he can win over King County voters before. If McKenna gets 42 percent of the vote in King County, it's likely a toss-up; if he wins 45 percent, McKenna is a shoo-in. That may seem like a high hurdle given recent history, but it's totally doable for a candidate who scored 45.8 percent of the county vote in his 2004 attorney general's race and 53.6 percent in 2008.

The Real Rob McKenna

Let's be clear: King County voters overwhelmingly vote for Democrats because we overwhelmingly reject the Republican agenda. So McKenna's task is to convince you that he is a "different kind of Republican," one who can help lead his party back to a more moderate political stance.

But to find the real McKenna, you need look no further than your ballot.

Marriage equality? McKenna opposes marriage equality.1 Now and forever. "Because it's based in faith, it could never change," McKenna told the Yakima Herald in May of his staunch opposition to gay marriage. McKenna isn't voting for marriage equality, but he's hoping that supporters of marriage equality in King County are stupid enough to vote for him.

And it's a faith that clearly informs his actions in office. When his assistant attorneys general were tasked with assigning Referendum 74 a ballot title, they drafted prejudicial language that included the phrase "redefine marriage" (a phrase McKenna himself has used in describing the law), a poll-tested talking point promulgated by the gay-bashing National Organization for Marriage. Does that sound like a different kind of Republican? A Thurston County judge had to step in and replace the ballot title with more neutral language, blocking McKenna's efforts to assist anti-gay- marriage campaigners.

Initiative 1185, Tim Eyman's latest oil- industry-backed effort to require a two-thirds supermajority to raise taxes? McKenna is for it.2 And not just as a matter of policy. In defending the provision from a recent constitutional challenge, McKenna's office bizarrely argued that the results of a referendum should trump the state Constitution.3

Does that sound like a different kind of Republican?

And of course, in the most important item on the ballot, McKenna no doubt supports Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan—though he lacks the balls to come out and say it—and, just as clearly, the vast majority of voters in King County would regard a Romney/Ryan win as catastrophic.4 McKenna was also the Washington State chair for the McCain/Palin campaign in 2008.

Does that sound like a different kind of Republican?

On issue after issue, McKenna is the exact same kind of Republican candidate that King County voters have rejected year after year after year. Marijuana legalization? McKenna opposes it.5 Charter schools? McKenna is for them.6 Choice? McKenna does not support the Reproductive Parity Act, a bill that would have merely required insurers to cover maternity and reproductive services. McKenna's fellow Republicans in the state legislature managed to kill the Reproductive Parity Act in the last session. If the state house and senate manage to pass the bill next year, Governor Rob "Different Kind of Republican" McKenna would veto it.7

McKenna is a different kind of Republican in one respect. You will never catch McKenna talking about "legitimate rape" or denying climate change science or evolution. I'm guessing McKenna probably wouldn't force a 14-year-girl to bear her rapist-uncle's anencephalic baby. (Maybe. McKenna says he supports legal abortion "within certain parameters," but he hasn't told us exactly what those parameters are. Like Romney and his budget numbers, McKenna wants us to trust him on this issue without providing us with the details.) So you could say that McKenna is different from other Republicans: He's not as stupid as, say, Todd "Legitimate Rape" Aiken. McKenna, for all we know, may agree with Aiken. But he's not dumb enough to say so out loud.

You want more?

This is a man who describes conservative columnist/apologist David Brooks as a "liberal." This is a man who told the Snohomish County Republican Women's Club in October 2010 that Barack Obama is "farther to the left of center... than any American president we have ever seen." McKenna then doubled down: "Farther to the left than FDR."

Barack Fucking Obama—who lifted his health care plan from conservative think tanks and the Republican nominee for president—is farther to the left than FDR. Really?

Rob McKenna is a man who describes public employee unions—teachers, cops, fire fighters—as "dangerous."8

You want more? Let's look at McKenna's record as attorney general.

McKenna was at the center of an effort by Republican state attorneys general to overturn Obamacare.9 The Supreme Court rejected the bulk of McKenna's shoddy constitutional arguments. But he did help get one provision scrapped: The court ruled that states can opt out of the crucial Medicaid expansion provisions, and McKenna has expressed every intention of exercising this option if he becomes governor. That's 350,000 additional low-income Washingtonians who would be denied health insurance coverage should McKenna win election.10 (A 2008 Families USA study estimated that 380 working-age Washingtonians die each year due to lack of insurance.)

In 2005, while he was defending the state, in his role as attorney general, from a lawsuit challenging the legitimacy of Governor Gregoire's election, McKenna publicly thanked the right-wing Building Industry Association of Washington for helping to fund the suit. (No conflict of interest there!)

Rob McKenna, the attorney general in perhaps the most environmentally conscious state in the nation, had to be sued by the Department of Natural Resources to provide the legal services necessary to defend sensitive state lands.11 This is an attorney general who lauds the will of the people, but who attempted to subvert our popularly approved minimum-wage law by bizarrely reinterpreting the word "by" in the service of denying a 12-cent increase in the minimum wage—an official attorney general opinion so fanciful that the Washington State Department of Labor & Industries took the rare step of simply ignoring it.12

"But what about education," you may ask? Hasn't McKenna promised to spend billions more on education than even Jay Inslee, his Democratic opponent? Sure. But just like a Republican, McKenna has promised not to raise taxes to pay for it. Where will that money come from?

Even those deceptive posters absurdly urging you to vote for Obama, R-74, and McKenna should give you a clue as to what sort of Republican McKenna really is, if you look at who is funding them: the reliably pro-Republican/anti-worker Washington Restaurant Association. High on the WRA's political agenda: lowering the minimum wage and fighting mandatory sick leave laws.

That's the sort of company McKenna keeps. Republican company.

Show Rob McKenna That You Aren't Stupid

If it walks like an elephant, talks like an elephant, and shits all over working people and sick people and women and gays like an elephant... it's a fucking elephant.

Republicans aren't a bunch of dickless appeasers like their Democratic counterparts. If McKenna wins in November, even by the tiniest of margins, he will become Washington's first Republican governor in three decades. He will not only claim a mandate, but he will govern like he has one. And as a red governor in a blue state, McKenna will also instantly jump to the top of the short list of Republican presidential contenders for 2016.

But this will only happen if voters in King County are just as dumb as Rob McKenna thinks we are.

We're not that dumb. We don't think you're that dumb.

Vote for Inslee. recommended

1. Jay Inslee, his Democratic opponent, was an early supporter of marriage equality.

2. Inslee is voting against I-1185, saying it violates “democratic principles.”

3. Inslee, an attorney, believes the two-thirds provision is clearly unconstitutional.

4. Inslee and President Barack Obama share Washington State campaign headquarters.

5. Inslee will vote no on marijuana legalization, too, but unlike McKenna, Inslee says he would 
defend the law if passed.

6. Inslee opposes charter schools.

7. Inslee has been a champion of reproductive rights, and he is endorsed by NARAL and Planned Parenthood.

8. Inslee is the overwhelming choice of organized labor.

9. Inslee helped draft Obamacare, inserting Medicare provisions crucial to Washington State.

10. Inslee will fully implement the Medicaid expansion, saying it will save the state millions of dollars and hundreds of lives.

11. Inslee is endorsed by every environmental group in the state and literally wrote the book on clean energy: 2007’s Apollo’s Fire.

12. In Congress, Inslee has consistently voted in favor of raising the federal minimum wage.

 

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I think a line of "Don't Vote For Koch-Suckers"
T-shirts should be available for sale across the country by tomorrow morning.
Posted by steviewonder on October 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM · Report
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The problem is that we seem to get screwed by ANY governor--democrat or republican! What to do?
Posted by Confused voter on October 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM · Report
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@2 What to do? Vote for the one who will screw us less, shit for brains.

And like the article said, if we dump McKenna now he won't be getting the chance screw us big time later.
Posted by change the system from within on October 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM · Report
JF 4
Wait, if the marriage and pot votes pass, what would McKenna do to stop it? What could he do to stop it? I'm not being factitious, I honestly don't know the rules.
Posted by JF on October 17, 2012 at 2:45 PM · Report
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McKenna said he voted for domestic partnerships and will accept without reservation the voters' decision on same-sex marriage.

It's tough to nail down any evil, incompetence and bad intentions on his part and you failed here, though you tried mightily and somewhat desperately.

Mostly, he's legitimately that geeky dude you see. The one with numbers running through his brain and ideas coming out of his mouth. When compared with Inslee it does not speak well of our state that this race will even be close.

King County is vitally important to his chances, yes. Inslee is counting on monolithic, intellectually vapid voters to pull the lever for him. And it might well work out for him.

But if you were to sit down with both with a truly open mind it would quickly become obvious McKenna is the real deal.

You can paint it however you choose but this article boils down to the usual four words: Vote for the Democrat.
Posted by Cletus on October 17, 2012 at 4:26 PM · Report
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Above, you say "it is our nearly two-to-one Democratic advantage that keeps Washington reliably, if modestly, blue." Is that intended to say "Olympia" instead of "Washington"
Posted by Oscar M http://oscarmcnary.wordpress.com/ on October 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM · Report
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The way you described Congressman Inslee is that of some ultra Soviet bureaucrat who wants to keep Washington in it's mediocre status in employment and production. While McKenna does hold key Republican ideals such as lowering taxes for everyone and creating a competitive economy in Washington State. Lowering taxes for corporations allows them to hire more people. More people working = more tax revenue for the Government. Why do Liberals not understand that basic fact?

Also, Charter schools are an excellent idea! Why not build a system where schools need to compete for business? Aren't our children's future worth finding the best education available? Or do we want to continue with incredibly low graduation rates in some high schools?

Has King County forgotten that we live in a CAPITALIST country? Where competition drives the economy. Stagnation through government incentives and oversight only hinders the growth of jobs and businesses. Everything relies on the ability to have jobs so that our communities may thrive and our children can have a future.

Otherwise please move to Cuba, Iran, North Korea, China, or Vietnam where Socialism is embraced and everyone gets fair treatment...
Posted by Chris84 on October 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM · Report
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The governor has the power to issue what are called "executive orders" where he can mandate rules for state agencies and employees. Should gay marriage or marijuana legalization pass, McKenna could cite federal law and give executive orders to state employees to refuse to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples or permits for marijuana-related businesses.
Posted by Rorifer on October 17, 2012 at 6:45 PM · Report
Occupy Seattle 9
Anyone who votes any Republican in this election has to be fucking stupid. Every one of them are corrupt, lying, tea-baggers backed by Koch brothers and Kemper Freeman. Every one of them will sell their soul and your right to vote in a heartbeat, if it means accomplishing the right-wing Republican agenda. No to Rob Mckenna, no to Bill Finkbeiner, no to Kim Wyman, no to James Watkins, no to John Koster, no, no, no. We snooze this election, and we can kiss our liberty and economic recovery goodbye.
Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 17, 2012 at 7:43 PM · Report
sparkydive 10
If you: use public transportation -or- work for, or depend on, any form of government institution -or- belong to a union -or- give even the tiniest shit about the environment -or- would simply like to keep this country from having to compete with Haiti for third world status AND you vote republican: you are the dumbest mother fucker on the planet.
Posted by sparkydive on October 17, 2012 at 8:09 PM · Report
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Wow, Dan Savage weights in.

What, no high school kids to fuck or bully?
Posted by Slam1263 on October 17, 2012 at 8:34 PM · Report
Goldy 12
@6 It is King County's nearly two-to-one Democratic advantage that keeps WA state modestly blue. Republicans can't win statewide when they get less than 40 percent of the King County vote. That's McKenna's bar.
Posted by Goldy on October 17, 2012 at 8:39 PM · Report
Spy D 13
NOT ONE PERSON READING THE COMMENTS WILL BE MOVED BY ANYTHING ANYONE WRITES HERE ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN BONEHEADS LIKE SLAM1263 INJECTS THEIR ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS COMMENTS THAT HURL INSULTS THAT DON'T EVEN APPLY AND THAT ADD NOTHING TO THE DISCUSSION. JUST GOES TO SHOW WHAT KIND OF DIALOGUE THE REPUBLICANS ARE CAPABLE OF.

Oops, caps lock on. Oh well, you gotta shout to be heard in this noise bath...
Posted by Spy D on October 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM · Report
JF 14
@8 Thanks for the info. Do we know if that's his plan or will he respect the will of the voters?
Posted by JF on October 18, 2012 at 8:08 AM · Report
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McKenna, holds the belief on gay marriage that Gregoire and Obama held a year ago, yet 5x more evil - according to the stranger that is.
Posted by Lew Siffer on October 18, 2012 at 8:34 AM · Report
Goldy 16
@14 Inslee has said he would defend Washington's marijuana laws, and try to persuade the feds to work with state in fully implementing the initiative if passed. McKenna has made it clear that he would not defend the law from the feds.

As for same-sex marriage, it's harder to see what McKenna could do to disrupt it. But I think it's fair to view this issue as a litmus test of where McKenna's values depart from ours. How is a governor morally opposed to marriage equality as a matter of faith, going to act on other equality issues? It's why women should be concerned too on access to reproductive services.
Posted by Goldy on October 18, 2012 at 8:49 AM · Report
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Hey Stupid, The Stranger and apparently too many of it's readers seem to lovingly embrace profanity and name-calling. Although I would concede it has it's dramatic place, it is ultimately vacuous if not backed up by something of substance. My response to the provocative and Stupid headline, is that I was STUPID enough to pick up your magazine. Hmm. The following is my response to your "substance," --I use the term advisedly, you adolescent morons--hey, see I can do it too! Isn't that special? "Romney/Ryan class warfare:" They believe in a more equitable responsibility by all Americans--you know, make a dollar (income) give the government 10%--they don't care who you are, Bill Gates, or a deep-thinker at the Stranger. "Union busters:" Well, yes, collusive extortion needs to go bye-bye. "Ban gay marriage:" Yep. I might point out that attempts to pass gay marriage by the people (something I thought you might care about) has always been defeated. "Cutting taxes for millionaires, and corporations:" Democrats love corporate welfare, conservatives do not, and see previous point on "millionaires."--Stupid.
Posted by Stranger's nightmare on October 18, 2012 at 9:04 AM · Report
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c> c> c> My brain just shed a few tears.

It's amazing to imagine that an article like this would sway even one thinking voter. Unfortunately, i am eft with no choice but to vote for McKenna. Because his opponent is as confused about how the government actually functions as the author if this article. As if calling you stupid isn't a childish thoughtless way of getting someone to change their opinion.

You have a mind use it. Hey, maybe even look into the candidates a bit? Vote for whoever you want.

Or just mindlessly go with whatever your entertainment newspaper says.

Posted by THINK FOR YOURSELVES on October 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM · Report
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@9: Agreed!!

Sorry Robbo, I'm voting for Jay.
The only stupid thing I see around here is your grin.
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 18, 2012 at 10:15 AM · Report
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Jay Inslee's plan is to divert billions of dollars from education and direct it to his corporate buddies in the "green energy" sector. None of these can actually survive without massive taxpayer subsidies. The only energy plan that may work long term is nuclear... but Inslee hates it.

Are we going to continue to massively underfund education in order to pay Inslee's corporate snake oil salesmen? As you read this comment billionaire corporate lobbyists are spending millions to back Inslee. Why?

If you really think Rob McKenna is going to ban abortion or cut down gay rights... We don't need your stupidity in our state!
Posted by Cobra_x30 on October 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM · Report
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Jay Inslee's plan is to divert billions of dollars from education and direct it to his corporate buddies in the "green energy" sector. None of these can actually survive without massive taxpayer subsidies. The only energy plan that may work long term is nuclear... but Inslee hates it. Most likely because their lobbyists have not paid him enough yet.

Are we going to continue to massively underfund education in order to pay Inslee's corporate snake oil salesmen? As you read this comment billionaire corporate lobbyists are spending millions to back Inslee. Why?

If you really think Rob McKenna is going to ban abortion or cut down gay rights... We don't need your stupidity in our state!
Posted by Cobra_x30 on October 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM · Report
Goldy 22
@21, @22 You said it twice! That must make it truer!
Posted by Goldy on October 18, 2012 at 10:48 AM · Report
Goldy 23
Oh, and by the way, one thing I forgot to mention in the piece: Rob McKenna absolutely HATES light rail.
Posted by Goldy on October 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM · Report
JF 24
@16 Thanks for the break down! Appreciate it.
Posted by JF on October 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM · Report
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Maybe McKenna doesn't like light rail because it hasn't been successful: http://seattletimes.com/text/2019441910.…

But I appreciate the fact the Stranger took the time to tear down McKenna, but did not offer a single reason why we should support INslee. The debate this week confirmed for me what I suspected from the commercials: Inslee is dramatically under-equipped to hold executive office. The notion that "hundreds of millions of dollars" in inflation savings from helaethcare reform - reform that has not even been implemented - will pay for $1 billion in necessary education funding next year shows that Jay can't do simple math.

Yet supposedly, I'm the one that is stupid...
Posted by Buck Stodgers on October 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM · Report
Cascadian 26
The fact that so many McKenna supporters are flooding the comments is a good sign that this article is getting out to the people who need to read it. I'd be worried if it was just the Slog regulars here, because that would mean you're preaching to the choir.

Keep up the good work!
Posted by Cascadian on October 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM · Report
Ballard Pimp 27
Actually, there aren't that many McKenna fans. "Chris_84" is a sock puppet screenname for "Cletus", who also posts a lot under unregistered names. Cletus gets paid $20/hr by one of the Koch Brother fronts to troll the Stranger comment threads. He gets a bonus ($10, I think) every time he gets first position.
Posted by Ballard Pimp on October 18, 2012 at 1:56 PM · Report
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This article is exactly the reason why Jay Inslee will lose out on being Governor. He has virtually no ideas or vision for the future of Washington state. The entire Democratic strategy in the race is to try and peg McKenna to the national republican agenda, which he has disavowed. The truth is that McKenna's policies can be implemented with bipartisan support tomorrow. Inslee is basically "do nothing" Gregoire 2.0. I will definitely be vote splitting come November.
Posted by snowboardkid on October 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM · Report
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McKenna personally opposes marriage equality, but he has stated many times that he agrees that marriage equality, if voted by the people (aka r-74), he will respect even though he is against. (Watch the debates, they are all in youtube)

About Marijuana, both candidates oppose the current bill. They both have different reason, but not that different.

Abortion, once again, the article is wrong. McKenna has been very clear about his view on abortion. He is pro Choice, but the parameters (which the article claims that there are no details) are that if a minor is having an abortion, parents must be told. Beyond that he is in favor of all the other reasoning pro choice. (Once again, just watch the debate)

Finally,in Education, neither Inslee or McKenna have given a clear plan of what they are going to do to fund education. Charter schools are a dumb idea but the other side hasn't offered anything concrete either... (Again, please watch the debate)

I personally am against McKenna because, like the article did mention, he has a staunch conservative positions in the economic matter of politics. He gave the state of Washington a bad name by going against the Affordable Care Act, and his environmental track record is not good.

In my opinion, McKenna does think we are stupid to vote for him, but based on this article "The Stranger" thinks we are stupid as well, if they are willing to throw facts that can easily be fact checked.

... probably no one will care about this post...
Posted by gilinero on October 18, 2012 at 3:06 PM · Report
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McKenna personally opposes marriage equality, but he has stated many times that he agrees that marriage equality, if voted by the people (aka r-74), he will respect even though he is against. (Watch the debates, they are all in youtube)

About Marijuana, both candidates oppose the current bill. They both have different reason, but not that different.

Abortion, once again, the article is wrong. McKenna has been very clear about his view on abortion. He is pro Choice, but the parameters (which the article claims that there are no details) are that if a minor is having an abortion, parents must be told. Beyond that he is in favor of all the other reasoning pro choice. (Once again, just watch the debate)

Finally,in Education, neither Inslee or McKenna have given a clear plan of what they are going to do to fund education. Charter schools are a dumb idea but the other side hasn't offered anything concrete either... (Again, please watch the debate)

I personally am against McKenna because, like the article did mention, he has a staunch conservative positions in the economic matter of politics. He gave the state of Washington a bad name by going against the Affordable Care Act, and his environmental track record is not good.

In my opinion, McKenna does think we are stupid to vote for him, but based on this article "The Stranger" thinks we are stupid as well, if they are willing to throw facts that can easily be fact checked.

... probably no one will care about this post...
Posted by gilinero on October 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM · Report
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Hey, 27. I post my own thoughts under the name Cletus only. Nothing else. Zip. To think someone would pay me to voice those thoughts is simultaneously flattering and frightening.

Yes, it is possible for people to have opposing viewpoints.

Posted by Cletus on October 18, 2012 at 4:05 PM · Report
Occupy Seattle 32
Hey Cletus,
How mighty nice to hear you say are posting as yourself and not being paid to. What I find ass-biting hilarious is how well the Republicans play the victim card. They cry and moan about how the "liberal media bias" is against them. Then when the truth comes out that the so-called liberal media has actually been bought out by Koch Enterprises and is now running ads for McKenna, what is the reaction of these Tea Baggers? Why, complain about the liberal bias of The Stranger, of course! These fascist Republicans just won't rest until EVERY SINGLE MEDIA OUTLET is in the tank for their guys. Can't tolerate any form of dissent or freedom of thought. Hates anyone who doesn't think or look like them. Can't resist buying off and stealing elections. I dunno, but kinda sounds like the Nazis to me. Maybe the Republicans in our state aren't full-on fascists just yet. Maybe Rob McKenna, Kim Wyman, Bob Ferguson, and company are baby fascists in their training wheels. But I tire of this constant spewing of hate by the Republicans, calling us Democrats stupid, partisan, lazy, whatever. I never heard of any politician trying to "win over" Democrat voters by spewing toxic hatred upon us nonstop. If we are truly a blue state, then we should start acting like it. I'll start by wearing our tolerance and love of equal rights proudly and just tell these intolerant fucks who want to kill off poor people, minorities, and our grandmas just to pay a little less in taxes to go move to another state.
Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM · Report
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Rob supported the Repeal of Don't Ask Don't tell in 2010! Far before he announced he was planning on running for governor:

"Washington Attorney General Rob Mckenna” Weekday. Puget Sound Public Radio. KUOW, Seattle. 22 Jun. 2010. Radio.





[…]

24:46: Thomas (Caller): Hey how are you this morning Steve?

24:50: Steve Scher: Very good, thanks for calling



24:51: (Caller): Hey I had an unrelated question, as an elected representative who represents military personal in Washington, where do you stand on lifting the ban on Don’t Ask Don’t Tell?



25:06: Rob Mckenna: Well of course it’s federal policy, but I think it’s time to make that change.



25:16: Caller: Ok, so you back that?



25:17: Rob Mckenna: Yeah



25:17: Caller: Ok



25:18: Steve Scher: I appreciate your call…
Posted by peter.j.ludwig on October 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM · Report
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Rob Mckenna supported the REPEAL of Don't Ask Don't Tell publicly in 2010 during an interview on KUOW. Here's the transcript:

"Washington Attorney General Rob Mckenna” Weekday. Puget Sound Public Radio. KUOW, Seattle. 22 Jun. 2010. Radio.

[…]

24:46: Thomas (Caller): Hey how are you this morning Steve?

24:50: Steve Scher: Very good, thanks for calling

24:51: (Caller): Hey I had an unrelated question, as an elected representative who represents military personal in Washington, where do you stand on lifting the ban on Don’t Ask Don’t Tell?

25:06: Rob Mckenna: Well of course it’s federal policy, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

25:16: Caller: Ok, so you back that?

25:17: Rob Mckenna: Yeah

25:17: Caller: Ok

25:18: Steve Scher: I appreciate your call…

You cannot try to paint Rob Mckenna as a right winger. He just Isn't. He is the most experienced candidate for governor BY far. WATCH the debates. I guarantee you will see that Rob has a clear plan and a new direction for Washington State.
Posted by peter.j.ludwig on October 18, 2012 at 7:48 PM · Report
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I'm very excited to vote for McKenna.

Watching the debates, it was actually painful to hear Inslee give one non-answer after another. The guy is way past his prime.

McKenna may be a bit of a nerd. But he has good ideas and answers for all of the important problems.

I'm an independent who's voting for gay marriage, pot legalization and most importantly Rob McKenna.
Posted by David in Shoreline on October 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM · Report
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You have every right to write/vomit a column like this. However, did you list it under "Feature" just to make the Seattle Times feel more like journalists after their McKenna ad?

Hard to imagine that the McKenna campaign could ever doubt your journalistic independence after reading this.

P.s., Here's an IQ quiz for you - What WA State politician (currently active) has been running for governor LONGER than McKenna? Answer: Jay Insless (sic). In fact, unlike McKenna, Insless actually ran before for this office (1996) and considered it again in 2004.
Posted by ThinkClearly on October 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM · Report
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half the people that read this rag more than likely don't know the difference between a red and blue state or if obozo supporter probably on the list of those taking my money in the form of welfare.
Posted by ESP on October 18, 2012 at 9:20 PM · Report
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Goldy, re @20 and @21: I take it you're being sarcastic about how Rethugs and their blind faith backers firmly believe that if they lie often enough, it MUST be true.

@26 Cascadian, and @32 Occupy Seattle: WAY TO GO!!!!!
I could not have said it better!!!!
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM · Report
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McKenna not only opposes legalizing marijuana, he opposes the Violence Against Women Act. I had one of his ogres on his Facebook page try to tell em differently, so I posted a link to the story. I believe they then deleted my remarks. He also has psychos like Roxanna Banguis all over his page, ranting psychotically, and making up some pretty bizarre tales from the frightening depths of the mind of someone who blindly follows party lines.
Posted by Not McKenna, but, who? on October 19, 2012 at 1:54 AM · Report
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I voted for Inslee in the primary and intended on voting for him in the general...and then I watched the last two televised debates. Inslee delivered some of the most disappointing drivel of any candidate that claims to be a Democrat. In addition to his gutless position on taxes and his constant references to "lean management" to get him out of even a modestly complex question on fiscal issues, his response to a question on keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was beyond appalling. After McKenna talked about legislation he recommended to the legislature to tighten the state gun laws after the Virginia Tech shootings, Inslee rambled on how we need to teach young men how uncool domestic violence is. Whatever the problem, Jay has a platitude to fix it.

I don't want to vote for McKenna. I really don't for all of the reasons described at length above. But I feel like a vote for Inslee validates the Democratic Party's decision to force yet another candidate on us who has no bold ideas (or, in Inslee's case, no ideas) and then turning around and saying the alternative is 100 times worse. But maybe that's because the only thing more mythical than a "Dan Evans Republican" is a "Progressive Democratic Governor."
Posted by Fuckd on October 19, 2012 at 2:56 AM · Report
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I voted for Inslee in the primary and intended on voting for him in the general...and then I watched the last two televised debates. Inslee delivered some of the most disappointing drivel of any candidate that claims to be a Democrat. In addition to his gutless position on taxes and his constant references to "lean management" to get him out of even a modestly complex question on fiscal issues, his response to a question on keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was beyond appalling. After McKenna talked about legislation he recommended to the legislature to tighten the state gun laws after the Virginia Tech shootings, Inslee rambled on how we need to teach young men how uncool domestic violence is. Whatever the problem, Jay has a platitude to fix it.

I don't want to vote for McKenna. I really don't for all of the reasons described at length above. But I feel like a vote for Inslee validates the Democratic Party's decision to force yet another candidate on us who has no bold ideas (or, in Inslee's case, no ideas) and then turning around and saying the alternative is 100 times worse. But maybe that's because the only thing more mythical than a "Dan Evans Republican" is a "Progressive Democratic Governor."
Posted by Fuckd on October 19, 2012 at 2:58 AM · Report
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Let's not forget McKenna's obsession with attacking online prostitution sites like Backpage (he's appeared on national TV shows regarding this). Sure, "moderate" Rob will tell us that this is only about protecting kids, but I doubt he's personally for consenting-adult prostitution either -- just like he personally doesn't think adults have the right to decide which sex they'd like to marry or ingest marijuana.

Would Jay Inslee lead the charge for safe, legal, regulated adult prostitution in WA? Probably not, given his lack of courage on the marijuana issue -- but at least I can't envision him signing legislation requiring all patrons of adult prostitutes to register as sex offenders (like I can see McKenna doing).

I agree with Savage and Goldy: Anyone who cares about these personal-liberty issues and votes for a Republican for a position with any significant policy-making power is a moron.

Posted by Jack McClellan on October 19, 2012 at 3:55 AM · Report
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Hey, Occupy Seattle. A lot of what you said you could easily replace the word Republican with Democrat it would hold just as true, if not more so.

When you ratchet up the partisan rhetoric you're not really helping.
Posted by Cletus on October 19, 2012 at 8:58 AM · Report
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giliniro, I thought your post was great. Factual, reasoned and straight up.

I disagree with you on McKenna. He has the intellect to deal with economic issues outside political parameters. Inslee brings nothing to the table. Is anyone, even in the conservationist community, buying the "green jobs" panacea anymore?

But I respect your opinions. Very refreshing.
Posted by Cletus on October 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM · Report
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I still find it surprising that no one has argued my previous statements. And NO, I'm not an alternate person writing here like #27 said. But anyway, does any ultra liberal want to argue the point that lowering taxes will allow companies to hire more people? lower taxes = more jobs = more tax revenue.
Posted by Chris84 on October 19, 2012 at 10:07 AM · Report
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[re posts 40 & 41 by Fuckd]
I'm leaning towards voting for McKenna as well. I usually vote Democratic though consider myself an "Independent". I will be voting for Obama, but am undecided about the governor's race.

I agree with Fuckd.

Basically, I'd rather risk being wrong about McKenna (i.e. he ends up being much more conservative than I'm comfortable with) as opposed to right about Inslee (i.e. he ends up maintaining the status quo in Olympia, without the resolve to make necessary changes).

The Democrats in Olympia will still hold majorities in the house and senate which will make it difficult for McKenna to push throw radically rightist ideas, and which might make the Democrats up their game.

Still undecided...
Posted by lanelson on October 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM · Report
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I usually vote Democratic though consider myself an "Independent", yes, Dan. I will be voting for Obama, but am undecided about the governor's race.

Perhaps I am stupid. Dan and the Occupy poster may be right. I should be humble about such things. While I don't feel brilliant, I don't feel stupid, but that may just be an illusion...

I'm leaning towards McKenna, for many of the same reasons Fuckd mentions in posts 40 & 41.

Basically, my logic is I'd rather risk being wrong about McKenna (i.e. he ends up being much more conservative than he currently portrays himself) than risk being right about Inslee (i.e. he ends up maintaining the status quo in Olympia, without having the politic will/drive to make necessary changes.)

The Democrats will still have a majority in both houses, which makes me believe if I'm wrong about McKenna, there is a limit to the damage he can do.

On the other hand, the Democrats still having majorities in the house and senate means that it would be hard for even a strong Democratic governor to effect real change/reforms, as Inslee proposes to do.

McKenna is not Rick Perry, Dan. There are still different kinds of Republicans as there are different kinds of Democrats.

I am still undecided and appreciate reading the comments here that go beyond the rhetoric on both sides.

Posted by lanelson on October 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM · Report
Occupy Seattle 48
Cletus, I am not here to help Republican trolls like you. If you want to be with your brethen, go comment on the other newspapers. Every article is teeming with racist, homophobe comments designed to generate enough fear amongst us "God-fearing white folk to vote Republican." Or, as your Tea Party friend in Ohio's T shirt says "Put the white back in the White House." The concept of fairness and balance only goes so far, if we are having a dialog with intolerant, bigots. If I say everyone deserves equal marriage rights and you say we should throw gays in jail, is it the fair and balance thing to take the middle of the road between our viewpoints? If I say women deserve equal pay for equal work and you say women need to stay at home and mind their manners, should we try to please both sides by agreeing to let women work for less pay? I don't think so. Your GOP party has gone bat shit crazy in the past few years, reintroducing ideas that will put ALL OF US back in slavery. If I say that every American citizen deserves to be able to vote without harassment and you think it's all right to harass just the Hispanic, African, and Asian American voters, we are supposed to be cordial by saying you have a good point? You want us to quiver and shake because you think we are being rude for calling out your bullshit and not standing down. You want us to doubt our awesome candidates Jay Inslee, Bob Ferguson, Kathleen Drew, Maria Cantwell, Susan Delbene, and others - when these guys are smart and will do the right thing for our state. AND they are not funded by the right-wing American Taliban that think Todd Akin is a swell guy, slavery was a good thing, and evolution didn't really happen. Forgive me if I don't feel inclined to indulge in polite chitchat with the crazies while your brethren are engaging in wholesale slaughter of our rights in other states.
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Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM · Report
Occupy Seattle 49
#38 Auntie Grizelda, you are pretty awesome yourself. Now let's get out the fucking vote for the Democrats!
Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM · Report
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Listen, Occupy Seattle. If you're trying to make the case for somebody having gone batshit crazy you've succeeded.

Yes, Republicans can disagree with you without being any of the things you describe. Maybe you should step back a bit. You're really out of control, if you don't mind my saying so.
Posted by Cletus on October 19, 2012 at 1:30 PM · Report
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I have a dream: One day i will wake up and the people of this state will see how the Democrats have been attempting rape us for every hard earned dollar we earn. We have among the highest sales tax in the country, We have among the highest Property taxes in the country and we have among the highest deficit of any state in the country. This state is next on the list to be added to the distinguished list of States in Bankrupsy. An All the people can do is Praise the administration for all the great things they have done for us. I think its time the people of this state get off their asses and learn the truth about ALL the candidates in ALL elections and make EDUCATED decisions instead of listening to trash campaigns designed to discredit anyone with a different point of view.
Posted by GoinFishin on October 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM · Report
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I have a dream: One day i will wake up and the people of this state will see how the Democrats have been attempting rape us for every hard earned dollar we earn. We have among the highest sales tax in the country, We have among the highest Property taxes in the country and we have among the highest deficit of any state in the country. This state is next on the list to be added to the distinguished list of States in Bankrupsy. An All the people can do is Praise the administration for all the great things they have done for us. I think its time the people of this state get off their asses and learn the truth about ALL the candidates in ALL elections and make EDUCATED decisions instead of listening to trash campaigns designed to discredit anyone with a different point of view.
Posted by GoinFishin on October 19, 2012 at 1:37 PM · Report
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The two most compelling arguments against McKenna from this article are Medicaid (assuming his position is as black and white as portrayed...a point I'm not completely sold on) and his embrace of Eyman tax policy. But Inslee ceded most of the contrast on taxes by refusing to offer any innovative solutions himself. His whole argument is that more jobs and lean management will fix everything.

The choice we seem to be getting is a Democrat who will manage the decay in state government with socially progressive leanings and a Republican who could shake things up but also potentially take us backwards in terms of budget priorities and the social safety net (if the nightmare scenario outlined here were to come true). These are not attractive options.
Posted by Fuckd on October 19, 2012 at 1:50 PM · Report
Occupy Seattle 54
Cletus, glad to know I've gotten under your skin. And too bad you couldn't address what your Republican candidates plan to do about the GOP party that is out of control. Is it because you yourself are one of them and cannot see how extreme they are? Or is it because you yourself are not sure whether your Republicans are really conservative or moderate? After all, they've said so many things behind closed doors among their own brethren. Were they lying when they swore they were one of them and were they lying when they told the rest of us that they were nothing like "those" Republicans?
Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 19, 2012 at 2:12 PM · Report
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Sorry, but your diatribe is false. How dare you insult those of us living in King County with such lies. Do YOU think we're stupid? Is that how you treat your readers? To think that we would believe any of this is unbelievable to me.
Posted by JeremyYoung on October 20, 2012 at 4:10 PM · Report
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McKenna's anti-healthcare suit showed what he really is: a servant of those who will pay his way, just like Romney. He argued he only objected to the mandatory coverage requirement, but sued to overturn the whole thing. I've known him since serving with him on the Regional Transit Committee in the late 90's. He perfected the Etch-a-sketch method before Romney thought of it.
Posted by southcounty on October 20, 2012 at 6:51 PM · Report
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@54: Republicans are batshit crazy and out of control because they can't get laid. Really. Rush Limbaugh could be launched as this year's Goodyear Blimp in Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.
Then again, maybe not----they'd need a crane for all the gross tonnage.
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 21, 2012 at 1:41 AM · Report
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I've got a binder on every dumbshit Republican.
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 21, 2012 at 1:42 AM · Report
Occupy Seattle 59
You go girl, Auntie Grizelda. Doesn't surprise me one bit that "I hate public transportation or anything else that might help poor people" Rob McKenna would be the one to invent etch sketch policies. It's also fucking hilarious how much manufactured rage these rabid Republicans are spewing because the Democrats are nailing for Rob McKenna, Reagan Dunn, Kim Wyman, and John Koster's anti-women and anti-choice views. Where was all this faux rage when the Congressional Republicans like Paul Ryan were passing bill after bill to make abortion and contraception illegal?
Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 21, 2012 at 11:00 PM · Report
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You (the Stranger) endorsed Rob McKenna in the last election.
Posted by A guy on October 22, 2012 at 7:42 AM · Report
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@59: You go, Occupy Seattle!!! I'm with ya!!
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 22, 2012 at 11:26 AM · Report
unclep 62
This man is potential disaster...yes, even worse than he has proven to be in the past - I'm not supporting Sheik Obama this time around- but this is one Republican I will not vote for - vote for your puppy dog - or your pet snake - anything but McKenna.!!
Posted by unclep on October 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM · Report
Bemusedchicken 63
what is the drinking water....seriously? how can anyone trust a R after the bush era? my mind is warped just listening to him talk...remember people...they pushed bush to the forefront and assured us everything was going to be ok....they got away with it and will do it again. they see no problem with that type of leadership. and while republicans roll back womens rights in red states....its totally fine for our possible Governor to just smile and act quiet? shouldn't the person representing washington state be STANDING UP FOR WOMEN...not hiding his head in the sand?

if you are middle or lower class....MCKENNA HAS NO INTEREST IN HELPING YOU. He will intellectualize inane policies that will....shock of all shocks...make you poorer! and golly...the rich will get richer! It's not rocket science...they've been doing it since the 80's!

sincerely- frustrated gay man.
Posted by Bemusedchicken on October 22, 2012 at 6:01 PM · Report
Occupy Seattle 64
Bemusedchicken, you decoded the Republican strategy. When Republicans Rob McKenna, Reagan Dunn, Kim Wyman, and James Watkins claim that they are "non-partisan" - what they mean is that they will stand back silently while their fanatic Tea party backers roll back civil rights, women's rights, and voters' rights. That is, if we are lucky. If we are unlucky, they will actually lead the charge in stripping away all the safety nets and progress we've made over the past 30 years.

When these Republicans accuse Jay Inslee, Bob Ferguson, and Kathleen Drew of being "partisan" - what they mean is that these and other Democrats will actually stand up to powerful special interests, create a fair and equal playing field for middle class and poor Americans, and defend the rights that are stated in our Constitution. And I find it hilarious that the very Republicans who claim to be so fucking smart (like dork king McKenna) can't even answer basic questions about science & technology: http://www.sciencedebate.org/rob-mckenna…
Posted by Occupy Seattle on October 22, 2012 at 9:46 PM · Report
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I'm ready to flip Romney a Big Bird!
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 23, 2012 at 3:02 AM · Report
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Occupy Seattle. Bath time. Large receptacle. Hot water. Soap etc.
Posted by Cletus on October 23, 2012 at 7:48 AM · Report
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@66: Cletus, YOU need a bath every time you post or open your ignorant mouth. You've been dumpster diving politically too long.
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM · Report
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If "R's" win, the Seattle Times will have thier very own Governor !
I see a cartoon with Mckenna on a -short leash led by a Blethen,
Posted by Carl Schwartz on October 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM · Report
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@7, charter schools would be a good idea if there were a single shred of evidence to suggest that they do any better than publicly funded schools. In reality, the evidence shows that they do worse twice as often as they do better, and when they do better, it is only marginally.

So while in theory it does sound like a fantastic idea, in reality it is not - it simply takes money away from the existing education infrastructure for at best a gamble on a marginal gain, and at worst, a reduction in overall education quality.
Posted by Commodore on October 25, 2012 at 1:55 AM · Report
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To add to the morass that is every comment board I've found;

We vote D because every damn R in the last three decades (that I've been paying attention) either comes across as a dirtbag, or as a normal Joe with a not so subtle dirtbag affiliation.

Of course I wish that the D's weren't so damn liberal with our money!

But if money is going to be spent, (because it will!), I would rather see it being spent on the people.

There you have it. Most of us vote for the lesser of two evils. Want someone to run that I would actually vote FOR.

(alas)
Posted by mannyh on October 25, 2012 at 9:02 PM · Report
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@68: ..Yeah, all bought and paid for with piles of Pulitzer Prize money.
I'm still appalled that The Seattle Times publicly endorses McKenna. Sad!
Hooray to the 100 Times' staffers who protested this outrage!
Stranger---PLEASE don't turn Republican on us!!!!!!
Posted by auntie grizelda on October 25, 2012 at 11:13 PM · Report
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A late night inebriated reaction: Dan sounds desperate. I think I would shoot myself if I had to spend 30 mins listening to occupy and auntie. Is this what the Internet is like here? Is it worth mentioning that I did and will vote for Obama? And that reading this really REALLY makes me want to vote for McKenna? Is it a bad sign when Dems are playing so much defense? Wait, when did occupy start shilling for jay inslee? Wait. What is in my refrigerator?Hold on...
Posted by Employeehandbook on October 27, 2012 at 2:43 AM · Report
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So wait - you're telling me McKenna, a Republican, is supporting things Republicans support? I don't see what the issue is. Seems like a fine candidate for Washington State. He is by far the most solid Republican candidate we have seen in a while, and I think he'd do fine job serving Washington. Gay rights isn't the only pertinent issue to Washington, and McKenna's fiscal stances are much more developed than Inslee's. How about we start taking our heads out of our asses and at least try BALANCING THE BUDGET.
Posted by simplysaid on November 2, 2012 at 11:18 PM · Report

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