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Would these people argue that they didn't have vaginal sex with someone because they or their partner didn't orgasm? While we could reasonably agree that a sex act was less enjoyable because there was no orgasmic finish, it's hard to entertain the argument that the sex act didn't occur.
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I think all of these things count as a "blowjob". Completion has no impact on the act itself.
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Hmmm yet @1 it seems so many straight men, in practice, do not reasonably agree that sex that ends without orgasm is less pleasureable-- if the recent stat that only something like 40% of women who have sex with men regularly have orgasms during sex (compared with ~85% of women sleeping with women and 99% of men of all orientations)
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I want your job (sitting around the conference table. Arguing what does or doesn't constitute a "blowjob," undoubtably accompanied by a PowerPoint presentation with charts, graphs and statistics teleconferenced in from the Denver office.)

Dick in mouth for anything longer than a passing slurp equals blowjob. The only thing up for debate is the quality, duration, enthusiasm, use of teeth, ability to stay on key while humming and ability to aim the load properly during ejaculation. Swallowing may or may not be deemed a bonus points category.

Talk amongst yourselves.
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In any case, absent deep throating, and cum swallowing, it's deficient.
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I'm voting on the side that calls it a blowjob whether or not there's an orgasm at the end.

Some men orgasm in less than a minute from mediocre blowjobs, some men don't orgasm at all after extended and excellent blowjobs. The orgasm does not define the blowjob.
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I always tend to think of a blowjob as being a standalone act. If penis in mouth is something that occurs briefly as a prelude to, or as part of a more robust program, I would consider it foreplay or part of the larger scene. I guess my thought process is intent centered. If something isn't at least intended to get someone to cum I'm hard pressed to consider it sex.
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Wasn't there that study a few years back (the internet tells me it was seven years back by Indiana University) that showed that something like 5% of folks don't consider "penis in vagina sex" to be "sex" unless the man comes? And something like 2 or 3% didn't count that as "sex" even with the orgasm?

So yeah, these women's discussion of what does or doesn't count as a blow job? Not the weirdest "does it count as sex" thing I've heard.
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In reality, people don't want concrete definitions for any sex act because then they can say whatever they want and let others decide for themselves what happened.

The term "hooking up" is a prime example. You can tell someone you "hooked up" with another and the person is left wondering, did they fuck? mutually masturbate? kiss a lot? talked a long time? "Hooking up" is literally the most meaningless term for sex/not sex one can use.
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The answer my friend, is blowing. In the wind!
12
A job's a job.
13
I always ask Kenneth Starr for a definition of sex before I respond.
14
" If you sucked him for ten minutes before PIV or PIB, you blew him a little."

Dan is trolling. Or has lost his sense of time.
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If he's not getting into my pants right now, I call it a blowjob. If we're going to fuck, I call it giving head or going down.
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I'm with Tachy @7 and EricaP @15. A blowjob is something the giver does as a standalone act, with the intention that the receiver comes and that the giver does not expect reciprocation.

If the dick-sucking is a prelude to other acts, I would call it something else. Sucking dick/cock. Oral. Going down.

As the wise LavaGirl once said: "Time for a new name. Sucking cock should never be a job and being blown may or may not happen."
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What's the context of this discussion, beyond a conversation about seemingly female colleagues?

If one of them has a partner who demands a certain amount of blowjobs but won't count towards this figure episodes in which she sucked him for ten minutes but he didn't ejaculate ... well, I'll say the guy is being unreasonable. In fact this would be my first remark on the topic. That should count. With the right pressure it's easier to come from that than from PIV ... though of course _everyone_ is different, personally and psychologically.

As a man (well, I'd mostly say I was genderqueer but with the anatomy) I'd say the job is not done until orgasm.
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DatBoi @3: The stats are 95% (not 99%) for straight men, 65% (not 40%) for straight women. Nice try though.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orgasm-gap-s…
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blow job

NOUN
vulgar slang
An act of oral sex performed on a man.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/defini…

oral sex

NOUN

Sexual activity in which the genitals of one partner are stimulated by the mouth of the other; fellatio or cunnilingus.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/defini…
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Are there similar linguistic distinctions for oral sex as performed on women?

I don't mind what people want to call whatever, but I recall a conversation here a few months ago in which we discovered that most of us have the experience of orgasm from blow jobs (or blowing) being pretty rare if not accompanied also by jacking off. So if we are going to label all act as precisely as possible, then I think our taxonomy should distinguish between blow jobs to orgasm with or without the assistance of the man's hands.
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People really do create an odd structure around euphemisms. I don't get why the definition has to be limited and have so many requirements and caveats considering it's popular use and understanding.

I mean unless there's a particular etymological source that someone can cite you might as well be arguing dick on UrbanDic...

I can understand wanting to downplay the "job" though I feel that it fits this definition, not the more task/obligation/responsibility and paid meanings-

"informal
a thing of a specified nature.
"the car was a blue malevolent-looking job"
22
Once you pass the five minute mark, it's a BJ, cumming or not.
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I'm with @4. Talking with "coworkers"? This is why there's no good customer service.
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@4 / @23 Coworkers have been known to eat lunch together and get drinks after work.
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Emma @20: Ah but going down on a woman isn't such a job. The nomenclature proves it!

Further to @16, my definition states "with the intention that the receiver comes." Actual coming is not necessary, just the attempt. Because as Emma notes, many men do not come from oral sex. If you're down there wishing he would, you can call it a blow job.
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@25 cont. And I think that no matter how much you have to use your hands, if he comes in your mouth it is a blow job.
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A blowjob is when the receiver is totally passive. But what is it called when the "receiver" is face fucking the giver?
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I had a friend in college, a nice Christian boy who despite getting frequent blowjobs from his high school girlfriend claimed to still be saving his virginity for marriage. Same argument is used for only doing anal. PIV was the only thing that counted as "sex" regardless whether or not there was an orgasm. Whatever. Among some gay men like my ex, it wasn't "sex" unless anal was involved.

These splitting hairs always seemed to be about either a false sense of "purity" or a demand to go farther than one wanted to in the moment. Blargh. If you're naked and having fun, it's sexual. If it's sexual, it's sex.
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Always @27: Taking a blowjob?
A chokejob?
Blowdomination?
Don't Try This At Home?
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@27 naw, the difference between getting your dick sucked and getting a blow job is when the giver of the BJ is enthusiastic about it and actively engaged in the task, rather than being a passive penis-hole.
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@27, why do you need a synonym when "face fucking" works fine and is perfectly accurate?
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BiDan@25 – Ah but going down on a woman isn't such a job.
Depends on the woman. I've dated a few who required a 40 minutes + of lickin' to keep on tickin' and that can be a strain on the old tongue and neck muscles! I had to do oral calesthenics and tongue-twisters every day just to stay in shape!

And that doesn't even begin to cover this kind of risk... https://theurbandaily.com/2057262/wtf-ma…
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@28 what an astoundingly frustrating thing that must have been for the GF. Hope she came to her senses and left any church that would lead to that sort of BS.
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@17 I'm quite impressed at the lengths SLOG commenters will go to blame a straight guy for the circumstances of a SLLOTD. You've made up a fictional girlfriend with a fictional boyfriend who made a fictional request so that you could make the point that it was unreasonable. Congratulations!
35
A blowjob just isn't a blowjob unless it's performed in front of judges who hold up little scorecards when you're done. Otherwise it's just so subjective!
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I would agree with the 'they are all blowjobs' camp. If I went by Dans definition, then I have had a blowjob twice in my 40 years on earth. Just as PIV doesn't magically make all women come, a mouth does not make all men come.
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It's not a job if you volunteer.
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@27 @31, I've often seen it called throat fucking or skull fucking.
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Thanks for the giggles #11 CMD and #20 EmmaLiz.

In my own case, I think I'd say I gave a blowjob if the recipient comes because of the action of my mouth (with or without my hands as the supporting cast members) on his penis, regardless of the length of time spent. I think this is because I always assumed "blow" meant come, and however enjoyable I find giving oral to be, it still requires a level of focus, sensitivity, and energy consistent with the word "job."

If I do my best, but the recipient doesn't come, then I'd probably say I went down on him, or sucked his dick.

And for the record, although giving a woman oral doesn't carry the same risk of choking or gagging that going down on a man does, I have found it to require a comparable level of focus, sensitivity and energy. If I give a woman oral sex, I would call it going down, whether or not she comes.
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I think it's defined by the intent and context of the act: oral stimulation to get/keep someone hard is distinct from oral stimulation for its own sake, for pleasure form the act itself. We already have a different slang term for the former: fluffing. Irrespective of the duration or end condition, if you're stimulating a partner's penis with your mouth for the sake of pleasure derived from that act itself, that's a blowjob.
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I guess the final answer is: It depends on the receiver. If the receiver is someone who typically comes from oral sex, then a blowjob would mean to completion. If he is not, a blowjob would mean until the giver gets tired and they move onto something else.
The receiver should clarify in advance, or after the referenced 10 minutes, whether he is likely to come.
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@34. Sportlandia. But what would be the point of commenting otherwise? To show off one's grasp of sexual terminology? Isn't the major motivation for saying something on the thread to help someone?

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