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News & ArtsWednesday, May 6, 2009
Housekeeping Regrets
Posted by Dan Savage on Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Typically when you do a live news program you spend the rest of the night, week, month slapping your forehead and thinking, "I should've said..." or, "I wish I didn't say..."
But I thought I did a pretty good on Larry King Live tonight. I made a few points I thought needed making, slipped one joke in, and I got to say a few things about teenagers that you're usually not allowed to say on the teevee. (They should masturbate together, they have a right to be sexual.) But the second I walked into the house the boyfriend said, "Christ, you were the gay Maggie Gallagher..." Apparently I came off as a bit too aggro, a bit too angry, a little too sharp. "That woman you were on with was trying to agree with you!" Um... was she? I may have missed that because I was had braced myself for the usual shouting-heads routine. Then the boyfriend went in for the kill:
"And how come you didn't bring up abortion?"
That's when I started slapping my head. We were having a conversation about whether abstinence was a "foolproof" way of preventing teen pregnancy—and it works in theory, just not practice—and I didn't think to bring up a safe and legal and absolutely "foolproof" way of ending (a) teen pregnancy. I also didn't bring up Plan B, the "morning after pill," and the plight of gay kids trapped in abstinence-only/heterosex-only sex "education" classes. No doubt I'll have a list of 30,000 things I neglected to bring up by morning. Dammit.
So, like, regrets, man, I've got a few.... just as I'm sure poor Perez does. When Maggie Gallagher was wiping the floor with him earlier in the program—"Poor, oppressed Miss California! Why can't the gays leave her alone and let her oppress you people in peace!"—Perez needed to stop talking about Miss California's contract with the pageant. Miss California's dirty pictures aren't the issue. The issue is hypocrisy—Miss California's hypocrisy and Maggie Gallagher's hypocrisy. Miss CA claims she's against same-sex marriage—she's joined Maggie's campaign against it—because gay marriage isn't "biblically correct" and she was brought up to be a "good Christian girl." Since when is parading around in a swimsuit on the TV "biblically correct"? Since when do "good, Christian girls" pose for wank shots? You can't point to the bible when you want to oppress the homos and then shrug and say, "I'm a Christian model!" when you're caught violating biblical admonitions about female modesty.
Anyhoo...
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Man - don't sweat it. You did great. It was generally civil on both sides, intellectually honest - or more than usual, and you took a couple of interesting approaches. You mention the one - that there are non-vaginal/anal options for understandably horny teens. But I also liked the hard questioning on why Bristol should be the spokesman. Giving the campaign context, the glamorization throughout, and then closing with a sharp "Bristol Palin is a JOKE" - was a fitting denoument.
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You are such a lovable creature. If I wasn't already obsessed with you, I'd probably google you after seeing you talk about mutual masturbation with Larry effing King, so probably anyone who was paying attention will see your regrets.
Good assessment on Perez. Can we keep him around just to stir up controversy, and then put him away when it's time to discuss the controversy? Additionally, who the shit coached him to overpronounce his words like that? I can't listen to him.
I hate being such a fag, but is that the same shirt you always wear on Larry?/TV in general?
Good assessment on Perez. Can we keep him around just to stir up controversy, and then put him away when it's time to discuss the controversy? Additionally, who the shit coached him to overpronounce his words like that? I can't listen to him.
I hate being such a fag, but is that the same shirt you always wear on Larry?/TV in general?
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Your point was completely valid, but I would've added you can't teach kids to think safely about sex with a representative who lives in a million-dollar house, with family (and probably) a nanny to care for her mistake-baby.
I'm sure they WERE going for the talking-heads/fighting foes scenario, but I'm not sure why they would put two people with similar views on the show.
And why the fuck was a topic of real national interest -- teen pregnancy -- allotted the least amount of time? I could care less about Hasselbeck's gluten allergy.
I'm sure they WERE going for the talking-heads/fighting foes scenario, but I'm not sure why they would put two people with similar views on the show.
And why the fuck was a topic of real national interest -- teen pregnancy -- allotted the least amount of time? I could care less about Hasselbeck's gluten allergy.
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@2 On the attire issue, I felt like I was suffocating just watching.. that shirt was buttoned up too far.
My friend, who judged the viewpoints based soley on Dan's appearance, asked "Is he the conservative one?"
Show people the sexy chest, Dan.
My friend, who judged the viewpoints based soley on Dan's appearance, asked "Is he the conservative one?"
Show people the sexy chest, Dan.
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...i saw the palin girl on "today" and she was joke. the hypocrisy involved is astounding. the message as far as i can see: get fucked and get pregnant...DO NOT have an abortion and DO NOT wear a condom...then, when you accidentally slip up..remember it was a mistake...except for the baby of course...that is a blessing...oh and by the way...for all the mothers whose mother is not the governor of alaska...and for all the mothers who can't really support their child or themselves...well, i guess you could try getting a job telling others not to do what you just did..."because it's really hard now and you can't go out with your friends for impromptu dinner"
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Don't sweat it. You said what needed to be said in the moment. You should ignore me, I just mortified my 13 year old daughter with a sex education discussion (she's got a test tomorrow on it). The "what ifs" suck.
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i haven't yet seen anyone point out this further contradiction in her position. in her original statement about the pics (http://www.towleroad.com/2009/05/miss-ca…) she says the pictures were just her doing what models do; in other words, there wasn't anything wrong doing those pics. but now her rep is saying (http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/05/carrie-pre…) that she was misled/coerced into doing the pics by a wicked, lying agent. as in, the pictures are eeeeevil after all -- she (innocent and starry-eyed as she is) was tricked into doing them.
so which is it? originally she said there was nothing wrong with doing those pics. and now she is saying that those pictures are the terrible result of her naive trust of evil conniving agents. but if that were really her opinion, why did her initial statement contradict it? why did she defend it there as a good old fashioned standard part of modeling?
obvious answer: she doesn't/didn't consider it bad conduct -- she reacted with knee-jerk honesty about her opinions (not the first time she's had that problem) and only later figured out how she needed to spin it to serve herself best.
so which is it? originally she said there was nothing wrong with doing those pics. and now she is saying that those pictures are the terrible result of her naive trust of evil conniving agents. but if that were really her opinion, why did her initial statement contradict it? why did she defend it there as a good old fashioned standard part of modeling?
obvious answer: she doesn't/didn't consider it bad conduct -- she reacted with knee-jerk honesty about her opinions (not the first time she's had that problem) and only later figured out how she needed to spin it to serve herself best.
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I only listened to it streaming on the internet, so I've no comment on the shirt--- but truly, Dan, how in the world would you have had time to say any more than what you did? You packed quite a lot of info into what brief opportunities you had. The closing was strong, you making the point that to prevent pregnancy it would be good to have teen spokespeople who do have sexual relationships and yet still manage to avoid pregnancy. That's one of those "oh, yeah..." obvious things that aren't that obvious until someone points it out. Mostly people think of that "bad" consequences as being the lesson learned. You brought up the need for positive lessons. It was good.
It's true, though, she took me by surprise--she didn't seem to want to battle with you at all. Clever strategy, that.
It's true, though, she took me by surprise--she didn't seem to want to battle with you at all. Clever strategy, that.
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There wasn't time to bring those issues up. Larry King kept moving things along with chair and bullwhip. You're appearance was OK. I just wish you'd been there to jump on Gallagher or Hasselbeck.
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That someone like Perez Hilton - the gay Hedda Hopper - is getting so much exposure (especially lately - Martha Stewart Show!!??!!) is IMHO Exhibit A of our terminally-ill society. That guy is a profoundly stupid and vicious sick fuk, and the gay community tolerates him as a spokesperson at its peril.
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And oh by the way - about the Miss California thing: Hypocrisy IS the issue. Hasselbeck and Gallagher kept saying that if she'd be pro-same sex marriage with her response, no one would be out there hunting for dirty pics. Well - yeah....because then there'd be no HYPOCRISY.
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I agree with Terry - she agreed with you on almost everything and afforded you a lot of courtesy. As much as I love to see/hear you debate I thought it was too bad you two were not able to make a more unified presentation, because with just a few differences in the details, you were essentially on the same page.
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Wait for he day Perez Hiltons party day tapes show up somewhere - he is so off the wall - Miss Calif will win any encounter with Perez..... so strange to mock Americas daughter symbol.... even with flaws .... from the big foul mouth of Mr. Scum.
Did some of you not hear Miss C, say she is not perfect ... that is a good summation for the simple issue of bare tits in her youth.
The gay baiting stuff from Missy is old news, celebrate the marriage victories ... THAT is news and defines millions of lives.
And, I find Hilton repulsive, maybe the only male I have ever thought that about.
Did some of you not hear Miss C, say she is not perfect ... that is a good summation for the simple issue of bare tits in her youth.
The gay baiting stuff from Missy is old news, celebrate the marriage victories ... THAT is news and defines millions of lives.
And, I find Hilton repulsive, maybe the only male I have ever thought that about.
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I thought you did good. Bristol Palin's mothers ideals are the perfect example of why teen pregnancy is a problem. You cant tell girls that they have to be abstinate ( because its not going to happen), then deny them sexual education that would teach them how to prevent pregnancy and offer them birth control resources, tell them they cant have an abortion because its a sin, AND THEN WONDER WHY GIRLS HAVE BABIES. That just doesn't work. Common sense. I think the most important thing is that teenage girls need to be made aware of the birth control resources that are available to them. I was on yahoo answers earlier, and theres like a million girls asking "Am I pregnant?". Its sad, if these girls were informed, they would know where they can go and get a free test and birth control and talk to a health professional instead of asking around on the internet to try to figure out whether or not they are pregnant. Abstinance only sex-ed is a joke.
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Dan: My girlfriend and I were watching. She's not familiar with your work. She let out an audible gasp when you advocated mutual masturbation, anal sex, etc. for teens. Now, she's not a prude (not in the sack anyway), she's progressive and fair, and we were both sexually active whilst teens. Needless to say, we spent the next hour (after we finished watching the interview, in which you were very articulate, funny and assertive; you even did well in spite of the fact Larry King was hosting, but I digress....) having a "discussion." I stood by everything you said, and she finally came around after acknowledging that, as you said, teens have a RIGHT to BE sexual. Needless to say, she opened her mind to things she had never thought through or considered, and if we ever have children, we have a better understanding of how the birds and the bees is going to get taught in our household.
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I really liked you on "This American Life", Dan. You are so much more fun when you are reflective and generous than when you are exchanging sound-bite "arguments" that each side knows to be simplistic and incomplete even as it speaks them.
You are better off having not made some flippant "teen pregnancy is easily dealt with -- just get an abortion!" remark. There are good reasons that almost everyone on the pro-choice side of the aisle has given up on the campaign to frame aborting your pregnancy as no more remarkable than taking asprin for your headache. One is that it really doesn't end up feeling that way for those involved. Another is that it really doesn't win them any converts.
You are better off having not made some flippant "teen pregnancy is easily dealt with -- just get an abortion!" remark. There are good reasons that almost everyone on the pro-choice side of the aisle has given up on the campaign to frame aborting your pregnancy as no more remarkable than taking asprin for your headache. One is that it really doesn't end up feeling that way for those involved. Another is that it really doesn't win them any converts.
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Whoa. I'm in California right now in a hotel room. I was watching Larry King, not knowing you were on tonight, and ran across this post right as your bit started. Weirdness.
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agreed, @17. bringing up abortion as a viable solution to the teen pregnancy problem would have completely undermined the legitimate points you were making. people are not open to conversion about abortion for the most part, and you would have alienated a large percentage of your audience, (and no doubt the ones put off would have been the ones who need to hear you the most).
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Let me first say I'm a advocate for sex education for all teens. I think the way the U.S. culture in general views sex is a little, skewed. Sex is natural, and let's face it... fun. It should not be stigmatized the way it is.
However, while teens may have the desire to be sexual, and have the right to be educated on contraception/abstinence, ways to cover their butts if they do have a pregnancy on their hands, and other solutions to vaginal intercourse; they should also be educated on the emotional awareness they need to have. People, honestly, even adults have emotional issues with sexual intercourse. So honestly, why not educate teens on the possible depression that can follow? Especially for girls. Studies have shown that girls between the ages of 14-17 who become sexually active, are two times as likely to become depressed, and 25% actually report being depressed all,or most of the time compared to 8% of girls who are NOT sexually active. (USA Today)
ScienceDaily has also done a report that showed girls of ages 15 are also more likely to be affected with depression after sex, and/or attempt suicide.
This to me just honestly makes me question, should 14 year olds learning to deal with society and horomones developing (not only sexually related ones, but also ones that affect learning and communication) really be encouraged to head for "third base" or "run home", even if it is anal and won't result in a pregnancy?
However, while teens may have the desire to be sexual, and have the right to be educated on contraception/abstinence, ways to cover their butts if they do have a pregnancy on their hands, and other solutions to vaginal intercourse; they should also be educated on the emotional awareness they need to have. People, honestly, even adults have emotional issues with sexual intercourse. So honestly, why not educate teens on the possible depression that can follow? Especially for girls. Studies have shown that girls between the ages of 14-17 who become sexually active, are two times as likely to become depressed, and 25% actually report being depressed all,or most of the time compared to 8% of girls who are NOT sexually active. (USA Today)
ScienceDaily has also done a report that showed girls of ages 15 are also more likely to be affected with depression after sex, and/or attempt suicide.
This to me just honestly makes me question, should 14 year olds learning to deal with society and horomones developing (not only sexually related ones, but also ones that affect learning and communication) really be encouraged to head for "third base" or "run home", even if it is anal and won't result in a pregnancy?
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"You can't point to the bible when you want to oppress the homos and then shrug and say, "I'm a Christian model!"
Dan -- Miss Opposite-sex Marriage can say and do anything she darn well wants. In fact, I think she did.
If making sense, being logical and consistent were necessary to believe in her brand of religion, you might have a point, but as it stands now and for the last 2000 years.....no.
Expect more inconsistency and non-sequiturs as part of the basis of this type of position.
Dan -- Miss Opposite-sex Marriage can say and do anything she darn well wants. In fact, I think she did.
If making sense, being logical and consistent were necessary to believe in her brand of religion, you might have a point, but as it stands now and for the last 2000 years.....no.
Expect more inconsistency and non-sequiturs as part of the basis of this type of position.
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You did great Dan! Quite a civil discussion with many points of agreement. I SO wish that it could have been you with Ms. Maggie....I wish that Perez would ask her about what to tell the childrens when mommy and daddy curse the covenant they made and rationalize the fact that oh yup...it dont matter that jesus says we can't divorce.....
So, I watch Ms. Palin on GMA and wow.....other than the fact that Chris Cuomo is beautiful....let's just glamorize the fact that you are a teen mom, which is exactly what the first segment of the interview was about.
To say that rational dialogue is coming out of the mouth of cutie Levi Johnston about teens and sex....is wierdly scary.
please....put on a tie....you led me on when I read your earlier post about the fact that you'd be wearing a tie....I like ties....have way to many of them.
So, I watch Ms. Palin on GMA and wow.....other than the fact that Chris Cuomo is beautiful....let's just glamorize the fact that you are a teen mom, which is exactly what the first segment of the interview was about.
To say that rational dialogue is coming out of the mouth of cutie Levi Johnston about teens and sex....is wierdly scary.
please....put on a tie....you led me on when I read your earlier post about the fact that you'd be wearing a tie....I like ties....have way to many of them.
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FUCK! I totally missed it. See what happens when you turn off your computer for an evening?
Anyone know where to find this on the internets?
Anyone know where to find this on the internets?
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I just wish someone a little less brain dead than Hilton was named the impromptu spokesperson on this whole "controversy". Hilton is no better than Miss (Ex?)California, he's an fame whore who says some really nasty things about people to garner attention for himself. He also always comes off as an airheaded bimbo who has no idea what he's talking about (unless of course he's saying super simplistic things, like "teehee, I drew semen on her in MS Paint, teehee"). Not only Miss California but Gallagher need to be exposed for the hypocritical tools they are and Perez is certainly not the person to turn to in a battle of wits (even if it's a battle of nitwits).
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I only read the transcript, and there you sound great. Sex ed should be comprehensive (and lifelong) - not just presenting abstinence and vaginal intercourse as the only options.
About his cursing, Perez Hilton should say that people need to be more concerned about taking away civil rights and denying people the equal protection of the laws.
About his cursing, Perez Hilton should say that people need to be more concerned about taking away civil rights and denying people the equal protection of the laws.
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I hope they will put it on the podcast feed on iTunes... I'm sure you did great, Dan! Spot on with Perez, though, he makes too good of an example for all the right-wing nutters to point their fingers at, as in "look what being gay makes to a person!" Not that I judge him, it's just that he somewhat confirms all the stupid stereotypes, and thus doesn't really help the cause.
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re: Teen "right" to be sexual
We are all about Rights but never about Responsibility.
Anyone who engages in behavior that can create another new member of the human race has a RESPONSIBILITY to be prepared to care for that person.
KILLING IT IS NOT A MORAL "CHOICE".
Abortion is not about 'choice'; it is about weaseling out of the responsibilities that you have incurred from an earlier 'choice' (the choice to engage in behavior -aka sex- that created the baby)
Killing other people to fix your problems is a poor lifestyle "choice".
We are all about Rights but never about Responsibility.
Anyone who engages in behavior that can create another new member of the human race has a RESPONSIBILITY to be prepared to care for that person.
KILLING IT IS NOT A MORAL "CHOICE".
Abortion is not about 'choice'; it is about weaseling out of the responsibilities that you have incurred from an earlier 'choice' (the choice to engage in behavior -aka sex- that created the baby)
Killing other people to fix your problems is a poor lifestyle "choice".
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Dan, there's always going to be "coulda, shoulda, woulda" afterthoughts. But there should be fewer for you after this appearance than in others.
You were in the smallest segment of the show, and the issue being discussed was narrowly defined by the host (basically the validity of Palin as spokesperson, with an side discussion on 'does abstinence work').
You were able to bring up solid reasons for why Palin should be discredited as a role-model (glamorizing of her situation) which hadn't been voiced in the mainstream media.
More importantly, you were able, on more than one occasion during that brief segment, to mention sexual alternatives that would not result in pregnancy, and the need for sex-positive education AND for the most part was able to get your opponent to agree with you - which in turn may mean that more people will actually listen to what was said and see that your points were valid.
I agree that if abortion had been brought up then that would have been all that was remembered from the segment. As it happened, there was a real discussion about sex and sex education on TV - something that is so rare to be almost mythical.
Though it would have been nice if you'd had time to mention what should be covered in sex positive ed classes, for gay as well as straight kids, that will have to be added to the list of 'talking points' for another appearance.
Stop beating yourself up. You did fine, and as a result, today many are having a real discussion about the topics you discussed.
You were in the smallest segment of the show, and the issue being discussed was narrowly defined by the host (basically the validity of Palin as spokesperson, with an side discussion on 'does abstinence work').
You were able to bring up solid reasons for why Palin should be discredited as a role-model (glamorizing of her situation) which hadn't been voiced in the mainstream media.
More importantly, you were able, on more than one occasion during that brief segment, to mention sexual alternatives that would not result in pregnancy, and the need for sex-positive education AND for the most part was able to get your opponent to agree with you - which in turn may mean that more people will actually listen to what was said and see that your points were valid.
I agree that if abortion had been brought up then that would have been all that was remembered from the segment. As it happened, there was a real discussion about sex and sex education on TV - something that is so rare to be almost mythical.
Though it would have been nice if you'd had time to mention what should be covered in sex positive ed classes, for gay as well as straight kids, that will have to be added to the list of 'talking points' for another appearance.
Stop beating yourself up. You did fine, and as a result, today many are having a real discussion about the topics you discussed.
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Perez is certainly not the person to turn to in a battle of wits (even if it's a battle of nitwits).
nice one Jen D.
nice one Jen D.
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Here is the transcript.
Dan is about four-fifths of the way down.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0…
Dan is about four-fifths of the way down.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0…
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So the main regret was not being an advocate for underage abortions. Beautiful, bless your heart. You know what Mr Savage, you just did perfectly came across as transparent as a crystal vase with a tampered substance in it.
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Oral sex, mutual masturbation and anal sex are all great ways to contract STDs.
Kids who are unable to have vaginal intercourse without getting pregnant are not going to be able to manage Dan's laundry list and protect themselves from STDs either.
Kids who are unable to have vaginal intercourse without getting pregnant are not going to be able to manage Dan's laundry list and protect themselves from STDs either.
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14 - Jesus, type much? Try using correct words and actual sentences and your comments might make sense.
Dan, NOW you're telling us about your appearance? If I had known, I would have watched. Give us some warning next time! This is your blog, promote yourself a little. Geez.
Dan, NOW you're telling us about your appearance? If I had known, I would have watched. Give us some warning next time! This is your blog, promote yourself a little. Geez.
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"Options beyond vaginal intercourse that are safer."
Anal sex is much riskier for transmission of STDs. Because of tearing. Because the rectum is not a sex organ. Sorry to be the one to break the news to Slog.
Anal sex is much riskier for transmission of STDs. Because of tearing. Because the rectum is not a sex organ. Sorry to be the one to break the news to Slog.
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I think one of the most important exchanges was at the very end. Dan saying what nobody else will. At this point I yelled FUCK YEAH!
BROWN: I agree we need to show more successful preventers. I agree with that, but I think that Bristol Palin's saying this is what happened. If I had it to do again, I would have had my family later, is an important message. She's only one of 450,000 young women who had this happen last year. And they all have different stories. But hers has importance. She said I would have done it differently.
SAVAGE: But she's a figure -- she's a figure of ridicule because of who her mother is and the hypocrisy that is shot through her whole family on this issue.
BROWN: That's a separate issue. I understand that.
SAVAGE: The marriage, the greeting by John McCain on the tarmac, the passing babies around at the Republican National Convention. Bristol Palin is a joke and this movement makes your day to prevent teen pregnancy a joke by associating her with it. There are better examples
BROWN: I agree we need to show more successful preventers. I agree with that, but I think that Bristol Palin's saying this is what happened. If I had it to do again, I would have had my family later, is an important message. She's only one of 450,000 young women who had this happen last year. And they all have different stories. But hers has importance. She said I would have done it differently.
SAVAGE: But she's a figure -- she's a figure of ridicule because of who her mother is and the hypocrisy that is shot through her whole family on this issue.
BROWN: That's a separate issue. I understand that.
SAVAGE: The marriage, the greeting by John McCain on the tarmac, the passing babies around at the Republican National Convention. Bristol Palin is a joke and this movement makes your day to prevent teen pregnancy a joke by associating her with it. There are better examples
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I wasn't sure Dan knew what he was talking about but when I saw the clip of Levi backing Dan up I felt much better.
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"she's a figure of ridicule because of who her mother is"
What a load of shit.
Anyone who judges someone based on what their parent does or is is full of shit.
What a load of shit.
Anyone who judges someone based on what their parent does or is is full of shit.
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@35: It was promoted here yesterday by one of his minions.
I hardly think Dan can be criticized for lack of self-promotion.
I hardly think Dan can be criticized for lack of self-promotion.
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I love that Terry greets Dan at the door with "you are the gay Maggie Gallagher"... It makes me imagine a world where in Maggie Gallagher comes out of her double-wide closet and everything is kittens and rainbows and we all live happily everafter dancing around her burning on a stake for hypocrisy... And thats why I can no longer eat the chocolate before bedtime... sigh.
Good Job Dan, Loved the way Larry twitched every time you said "vaginal intercourse" or "anal sex"!!
Good Job Dan, Loved the way Larry twitched every time you said "vaginal intercourse" or "anal sex"!!
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I had to wait until it was on the second time where I live so I could see you Dan, but I stayed up until 2 in the morning to watch you. I thought you did pretty good, obviously I also thought there were a couple other things you could have said, but all in all good Job. As far as Perez, yeah he didn't do as good last night. But when Maggie, said Leave Carrie alone, I instantly flashed back to Chris Crocker, and imagined her in a video in front of a sheet saying leave Carrie Alone, she can't help it because she is a hypocritial bitch, Lol, good job Dan. I hope to see you on more tv shows coming up. I loved after prop. 8 when you were on CNN every night talking about gay marriage. You said what had to be said, not what was politicaly correct. Good Job.
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Dan, I thought that was great. I didn't see you as combative at all -- that woman talked so slowly and ponderously that you had to interrupt and talk fast to get your points in. And really, she didn't change her abstinence-only tune until you brought up a more sex-positive alternative. Plus someone needed to say what so many of us are thinking: Bristol Palin is a joke of a spokesmodel for the teen pregnancy issue.
In short, I'm glad you spoke so plainly, openly, and honestly about teen sex. You just know that if there were any teens watching that, it was your message they got, not hers.
In short, I'm glad you spoke so plainly, openly, and honestly about teen sex. You just know that if there were any teens watching that, it was your message they got, not hers.
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I wish Terry weren't quite so critical. Perhaps giving you some positive feedback before presenting a list of everything you did wrong would be more kind and supportive.
From all accounts (and from the transcript) you did great. Just like you always do.
From all accounts (and from the transcript) you did great. Just like you always do.
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I thought Sarah Brown was a lot more poised, calm and articulate. Athough you were both agreeing on the issue, she is easier to listen to because she knows how to build public will rather than stir up the pot for the sake of it. I think there are lessons to be learned. What were you trying to accomplish?
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