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Crime / Sex If These Women Could Agree On Tying Him Up and Glueing His Cock to His Stomach...
Posted by Dan Savage on Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:47 AM
...why couldn't they agree to just, you know, share him?
A sticky case of revenge unfolded last week in a Wisconsin motel after a woman discovered her husband was cheating and invited three other scorned lovers to settle the score—with Krazy Glue.The 36-year-old Lothario was carrying on with all of them before his wife figured it out and notified the others, according to a criminal complaint filed in Calumet County, Wis., in a town about 90 miles north of Milwaukee. "We had a plan," one of the women, Therese Ziemann, 48, told an investigator, according to court records.
Ziemann lured the man to a Stockbridge hotel Thursday, promising a "rub down," the complaint says. He was blindfolded and tied to a bed. Then Ziemann text-messaged the other three women, including the man's wife, who joined her in the room. One of them, Wendy Sewell, 44, reportedly asked, "Which one do you love more?"
After the victim was threatened with mace, punched in the face and taunted, the mischief moved south. Ziemann glued a sensitive body part to his stomach, according to the complaint.
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They may all be average looking, pale, have bad hair, and love the color green (which shouldn't be worn on any of them). But, at least they have their dig...no, self-esteem in tact. Yeah, that's it.
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I foresee a porno inspired by this story, hopefully featuring a hotter cast. When are HUMP! submissions due again?
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The guy's a creep for fucking around with all of them but their "revenge" session was a waste of time. All they did was let him know he's got power over them... probably what he always wanted in the first place (well, that and sex with multiple women).
Better to have just left him ignored and then gone on to live better lives than him.
Better to have just left him ignored and then gone on to live better lives than him.
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If these are the kind of ugly sows he is getting they would have done him a favor to chop his dick off...
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These broads have no imagination as well as faded looks. They should have just been happy with what they had. I bet anyone of them will go back to him in a flash. Otherwise they would have cut the damn thing off all together.
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I love how every day, average-looking men are elevated to the status of "hot" while average-looking woman are degraded for their looks. It's all sooooo relevant to the discussion of the event, too!
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I don't understand why he called the cops. Back in Casanova's day, a little pay back was an understood risk of the game. Go to the ER, make up a story about a sex-game gone wrong, and suck it up. The guy is a whiny douche.
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My brother the EMT had a case where the scorned woman injected the super glue up the urethra while the guy was passed out drunk - ouch! If you're wondering, they had to insert a long drainage needle into the bladder so he wouldn't explode.
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So all non-hot ladies of the world deserve to be be cheated on. Love the misogyny, Slog.
@15 is right on. If you live in a world where monogamy is expected and go outside of that expectation, a little pay back is par for the course.
I would have encouraged a healthy discussion amongst all the participants, but that would have taken maturity. And none of these people exhibited that.
@6 Yes it does. She's my favorite of all of them.
@15 is right on. If you live in a world where monogamy is expected and go outside of that expectation, a little pay back is par for the course.
I would have encouraged a healthy discussion amongst all the participants, but that would have taken maturity. And none of these people exhibited that.
@6 Yes it does. She's my favorite of all of them.
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"A sensitive body part?" The Tribune can't even print "his penis"? This is why print news is dying.
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For all those commenting on the attractiveness of the women - yeah, I hope you look HALF that good in your mugshot!
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Most men are swines with a one track mind when you get to the nitty gritty of things. The vast majority of those who share the ideology of "sharing" (promiscuity) is men, very few women have such a distorted view of intimacy and sex, for us it has to be linked to love and commitment to our special other. For the vast majority of men the tingling between the legs overcomes their senses, reduces their mental cognition to zero and surpasses any notion of commitment and love that they had known. That's why the most extreme forms of sexual acts are always found between men who seek other men and when women are out of the picture.
These women deserve the admiration of all other women around the nation as far as I'm concern. As such all of us should keep our eyes on how they'll be treated by our judicial system. I do hope they get a judge who's not a misogynist.
These women acted correctly especially the wife, the guy should consider himself lucky he got off so easily with his weiner intact, LOL
These women deserve the admiration of all other women around the nation as far as I'm concern. As such all of us should keep our eyes on how they'll be treated by our judicial system. I do hope they get a judge who's not a misogynist.
These women acted correctly especially the wife, the guy should consider himself lucky he got off so easily with his weiner intact, LOL
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@ #22 - I don't think you'd be so smug if somebody glued your snatch shut, you dumb fucking cunt.
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@22 Oh please. You can keep your tired notions of sexuality, I will have no part in them. I'm a member of the Center for Sex Positive Culture, and I can tell you, there are just as many women interested in multiple partners as there are men. And that includes the lesbians where men aren't even in the picture.
Men created the notion that 'good girls' aren't interested in sex to control female sexuality. So husbands could have the devoted wife and the slut on the side. If women are given the space to be sexual, they can have just as rich and interesting sex lives as men.
Men created the notion that 'good girls' aren't interested in sex to control female sexuality. So husbands could have the devoted wife and the slut on the side. If women are given the space to be sexual, they can have just as rich and interesting sex lives as men.
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The hell with glueing their snatches shut - glue their assholes shut and make 'em eat nothing but Taco Bell. That'll fix 'em.
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25 "there are just as many women interested in multiple partners as there are men."
Where are the numbers, poll, study? I don't think that you could know anything from your own personal experience about these things Enigma, even if you like feminine things Enigma, only real women know what I'm saying.
You might be right about the lesbians tho.
Where are the numbers, poll, study? I don't think that you could know anything from your own personal experience about these things Enigma, even if you like feminine things Enigma, only real women know what I'm saying.
You might be right about the lesbians tho.
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I'm not a real woman? Funny, I have this vagina with all these parts that can make a baby and these breasts that are always getting in my way when I'm exercising. But I'm not a real woman because I like sex?
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Sojourner Truth (1797-1883): Ain't I A Woman?
Delivered 1851
Women's Convention, Akron, Ohio
Well, children, where there is so much racket there must be something out of kilter. I think that 'twixt the negroes of the South and the women at the North, all talking about rights, the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But what's all this here talking about?
That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman? Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman? I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman?
Then they talk about this thing in the head; what's this they call it? [member of audience whispers, "intellect"] That's it, honey. What's that got to do with women's rights or negroes' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint, and yours holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half measure full?
Then that little man in black there, he says women can't have as much rights as men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman! Where did your Christ come from? Where did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothing to do with Him.
If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back , and get it right side up again! And now they is asking to do it, the men better let them.
Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to say.
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Delivered 1851
Women's Convention, Akron, Ohio
Well, children, where there is so much racket there must be something out of kilter. I think that 'twixt the negroes of the South and the women at the North, all talking about rights, the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But what's all this here talking about?
That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman? Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman? I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman?
Then they talk about this thing in the head; what's this they call it? [member of audience whispers, "intellect"] That's it, honey. What's that got to do with women's rights or negroes' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint, and yours holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half measure full?
Then that little man in black there, he says women can't have as much rights as men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman! Where did your Christ come from? Where did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothing to do with Him.
If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back , and get it right side up again! And now they is asking to do it, the men better let them.
Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to say.
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Thank you Sojourner. Still an inspiration to those that would have us beg for our rights instead of Demand them.
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Of course on statistic LC will pretend doesn't exist is that in her demographic, over 70% of children are born out of wedlock.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife…
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife…
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Nice work. So, Christ like Ms. 139 days of Christianity @ 22 and 29. What happened to turning the other cheek, praying for your enemies to be blessed? Or did you forget that wishing ill on others, and being supportive of others abusing their fellow man is considered equal to murder in the eyes of Christ? It's that darn Sermon on the Mount you keep struggling with, your know where your told not to judge others and get the logs out of your eyes, the one were Christ calls you a hypocrite for judging (exactly what you did to Enigma in post 29) others.
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@ 26. Totally, you've got to do it WuTang style. "I'll sew your asshole shut and keep feedin' ya, and feedin' ya, and feedin' ya." I really hope they get some serious jail time but they probably wont. Hmmmmm....I wonder what sentence would be handed down if a guy glued his wife's vagina shut for cheating on him? I'm guessing 15 years at least.
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Just for the record I don't think anyone should be assaulted in that way, men or women, b/c it fucking sucks.
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30 I though you were a homosexual. Given that then I guess I would have to take you at your word concerning the sexual behavior those who identify as lesbians like you do. Seems to me that you would know better about it. So if you say lesbians have higher sexual urges that they cannot control I'll take you at your word. Take no offense Enigma but that's totally different from the way in which the majority of females who exhibit natural feminine traits and likes for the opposite sex operate tho.
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@39: LC, you need to stop taking what applies to you and applying it to all other women. Maybe Enigma is a lesbian, maybe not, but who gives a fuck? There are PLENTY of straight women who have incredible libidos, I know b/c my wife is one of them. But let me guess, she's just a nympho and needs to be "fixed" so she can be a normal woman like you, right?
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34 Sometimes I think you really belong to the same sect of Uriel-238 and are just labeling yourself as a Christian to further confuse these people in order to give them away in damnation to the entity which once was the morning star. Then I just have to remind myself that your case is sadly very common in these challenging times and every time I kneel down to pray you are included.
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So Kim is sadly a very common case of actually following the teachings of Jesus? Uh, yeah....how horrible.
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@ 42, what branch of Christianity allows the student (you) to tell the teacher (Kim) where to get off? Is it the same one that allows you to think you're saved while wallowing in sinful behavior like you do?
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Let's say it together Loveschild, "Everyone is different."
Some straight men have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
Some straight women have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
Some gay men have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
Some gay women have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
"Everyone is different! And that's what makes the world great!"
And how dare you disparage another person's faith in Jesus based on your twisted notion of Christian love. Like Kim, my dad is one of those liberal, love everyone as they are Christians. He doesn't really like to claim the title because of people like you, but he does love Jesus and I'm proud to defend his faith against your brand of 'Christian'. And he'll defend my pagan queer self against 'Christians' like you until the day he dies.
Some straight men have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
Some straight women have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
Some gay men have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
Some gay women have really high libidos, some have really low ones, some are in the middle.
"Everyone is different! And that's what makes the world great!"
And how dare you disparage another person's faith in Jesus based on your twisted notion of Christian love. Like Kim, my dad is one of those liberal, love everyone as they are Christians. He doesn't really like to claim the title because of people like you, but he does love Jesus and I'm proud to defend his faith against your brand of 'Christian'. And he'll defend my pagan queer self against 'Christians' like you until the day he dies.
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44 LOL Kim is no teacher, I know that's what she would like y'all to believe about her. But we Christians only follow one teacher and that's our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
If Kim wants to start her own cult centered around her teaching she can do so, but lying and distorting the word of the living God that I serve for her own praise will not go unchallenged with the facts that are clearly stated on the Bible.
If Kim wants to start her own cult centered around her teaching she can do so, but lying and distorting the word of the living God that I serve for her own praise will not go unchallenged with the facts that are clearly stated on the Bible.
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@ 39 WTF do you mean you thought she was a homo? Who fucking cares? Where is your logic at? Your logic is "...lesbians have higher sexual urges that they cannot control ...that's totally different from the way in which the majority of females who exhibit natural feminine traits and likes for the opposite sex operate tho."
You really are a close minded idiot, are you not? Have you ever lived outside of your Jesus-humpin' bread-box? And yes, that is a metaphor, honey. You have no idea about sex, humanity, or women. What the heck is wrong with fools like you? I am betting your childhood was filled with xenophobic endearments and judgments, among other loving traditional xian morale.
You really are a close minded idiot, are you not? Have you ever lived outside of your Jesus-humpin' bread-box? And yes, that is a metaphor, honey. You have no idea about sex, humanity, or women. What the heck is wrong with fools like you? I am betting your childhood was filled with xenophobic endearments and judgments, among other loving traditional xian morale.
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I missed the part in the Bible where Jesus said gays were less than human and lesbians aren't real women.
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@ 47 oooooh, the 'bible'- a book WRITTEN BY MEN centuries ago (and decades after Christ died) to exploit and control pagans, the underprivileged, uneducated, and women!!! I really am compelled by your premises. Really.
Not.
Not.
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@ 42 Well I see know that you are not only a fundamentalist nut job, but you believe in the Lucifer hoax as well. Of course, of course. Apocalyptic mania is a close cousin to today's brand of false Christianity.
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@ 47, coming from a Christian family, I recognize when someone is actually a Christian and when someone is just calling themselves that. Guess which one you are.
And yes, you do have human teachers. Are you in a bible study group? Those people are teaching you. Do you go to church? Your pastor is teaching you. You can credit Jesus with giving them wisdom (although I doubt your teachers possess it) but Jesus himself is too busy to teach anyone directly.
And yes, you do have human teachers. Are you in a bible study group? Those people are teaching you. Do you go to church? Your pastor is teaching you. You can credit Jesus with giving them wisdom (although I doubt your teachers possess it) but Jesus himself is too busy to teach anyone directly.
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42: Miss 139 days of Christianity,
As always your a fool. Uriel-238 has told you he is a naturalist, he doesn't claim to be Christian, but you refuse to actually use reading comprehension skills. Neither of us are satanist, as you so want to artfully imply.
The one who wished ill on the man was you. The one who identified with and supported the women was you.
"These women deserve the admiration of all other women around the nation as far as I'm concern. As such all of us should keep our eyes on how they'll be treated by our judicial system. I do hope they get a judge who's not a misogynist.
These women acted correctly especially the wife, the guy should consider himself lucky he got off so easily with his weiner intact, LOL"
You're the one guilty of murder in your heart, not me. That speck isn't in my eye, it's the log in yours. Proof that you don't know the scriptures you so claim to be an authority on in your 139 days. There is not a chapter or a verse in the scriptures where it permits tying a man down, punching him in the face, taunting him, and gluing his penis to his stomach, because he was sleeping with more than one woman. No, it says to turn the other cheek, to love your neighbor as yourself, and to not be overcome by evil, but to overcome evil with doing good. In my opinion, what those women did was evil, apparently he was a jerk and didn't have their permission to be sleeping around, but they are not justified in their decision to inflict damage on him. And, you, who claim to be a follower of Christ, are not justified in your choice to support them. To wish ill on another person is to murder them in your heart.
I forgive you.
As always your a fool. Uriel-238 has told you he is a naturalist, he doesn't claim to be Christian, but you refuse to actually use reading comprehension skills. Neither of us are satanist, as you so want to artfully imply.
The one who wished ill on the man was you. The one who identified with and supported the women was you.
"These women deserve the admiration of all other women around the nation as far as I'm concern. As such all of us should keep our eyes on how they'll be treated by our judicial system. I do hope they get a judge who's not a misogynist.
These women acted correctly especially the wife, the guy should consider himself lucky he got off so easily with his weiner intact, LOL"
You're the one guilty of murder in your heart, not me. That speck isn't in my eye, it's the log in yours. Proof that you don't know the scriptures you so claim to be an authority on in your 139 days. There is not a chapter or a verse in the scriptures where it permits tying a man down, punching him in the face, taunting him, and gluing his penis to his stomach, because he was sleeping with more than one woman. No, it says to turn the other cheek, to love your neighbor as yourself, and to not be overcome by evil, but to overcome evil with doing good. In my opinion, what those women did was evil, apparently he was a jerk and didn't have their permission to be sleeping around, but they are not justified in their decision to inflict damage on him. And, you, who claim to be a follower of Christ, are not justified in your choice to support them. To wish ill on another person is to murder them in your heart.
I forgive you.
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I don't forgive you LC...You are a hateful and evil black female who lacks the empathy her station should have instilled in her. Shame on you and your ugly behavior. If there was a Hell, you would burn there for a thousand years for your lies and misdeeds.
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Matt and Enigma,
Miss 139 days, is correct, I'm not her teacher. I'm her elder in Christ, by a decade plus, and yes, I spent many years writing Bible studies for evangelical churches, but I'm not her teacher. One can only teach someone who is humble and is willing to accept instruction. One who is full of pride, and believes that Christ's instructions to refrain from judging others doesn't apply to herself, is not teachable.
Miss 139 days, is correct, I'm not her teacher. I'm her elder in Christ, by a decade plus, and yes, I spent many years writing Bible studies for evangelical churches, but I'm not her teacher. One can only teach someone who is humble and is willing to accept instruction. One who is full of pride, and believes that Christ's instructions to refrain from judging others doesn't apply to herself, is not teachable.
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Kim, I never claimed you were her teacher. I was defending open-minded Christians against her self aggrandizement. She claims to speak for all true Christians and all real women, and I won't stand for it. You're right, she is not teachable in her current state. Only the humble can learn, you have to admit that you don't know everything and that other people in the world have knowledge you don't posses.
I think it's admirable to read and learn about yourself from personal religious texts, but that can't be the end of education. Conversations about the texts are necessary to understand the deeper meanings. But Loveschild can't admit that people that don't belong to her particular strain can teach her something about her own text.
I think it's admirable to read and learn about yourself from personal religious texts, but that can't be the end of education. Conversations about the texts are necessary to understand the deeper meanings. But Loveschild can't admit that people that don't belong to her particular strain can teach her something about her own text.
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Enigma,
I know, sorry that I didn't say it as well as I could have. It was Matt, that refered to me as teacher. That is the norm in the church, the elders (those who can understand the deeper meanings and who have been walking with the Lord for many, many years, or solid food of the scriptures) in Christ teach the infants (who only understand the words on the page, the new to the faith, or the milk drinkers), and that is what he was getting at (I think).
I appreciate your grace and your perspectives.
I know, sorry that I didn't say it as well as I could have. It was Matt, that refered to me as teacher. That is the norm in the church, the elders (those who can understand the deeper meanings and who have been walking with the Lord for many, many years, or solid food of the scriptures) in Christ teach the infants (who only understand the words on the page, the new to the faith, or the milk drinkers), and that is what he was getting at (I think).
I appreciate your grace and your perspectives.
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53 56 This is precisely what I'm talking about, Uriel has come out more than once in defense of the "church" of satan and has justify his defense using the same distorted logic that you usually use. But know this Kim, even Uriel (as do all here who do not know Christ) has a better chance of being forgiven by our creator and gaining salvation than someone who claiming to know the teachings (such as you) of Christ chooses instead to throw off those who are living in murk and trying to follow the light that only Jesus can provide.
"I'm not her teacher"
Right you have said, for the one who came to teach us about the way to salvation and on how to reside with the heavenly father for eternity was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
"I'm her elder in Christ"
Wrong, given the distortions of the Bible you have posted here nothing points out to you as being an "elder" of mine nor of any other true Christ follower in the knowledge of the living word which is after all the manual handed to those men and women who have had and some even spoken to God "face to face, as a man speaks with his friend" Exodus 33:11
Nothing you have written here so far could be construed by any real observing christian as biblical understanding. I humbly suggest you seek out a church in which the bible is actually read instead of the new age pamphlets and books that you read that have to do more with moral relativism than they do with christian teachings. If I were in Portland I would offer an invite to you to my church (although, given your aggressive behavior you would most likely reject the invitation) but there are churches in Portland where the Bible is actually read by ministers who have actually taken time to study it, so I urge you to at least go to one to see for yourself.
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"I'm not her teacher"
Right you have said, for the one who came to teach us about the way to salvation and on how to reside with the heavenly father for eternity was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
"I'm her elder in Christ"
Wrong, given the distortions of the Bible you have posted here nothing points out to you as being an "elder" of mine nor of any other true Christ follower in the knowledge of the living word which is after all the manual handed to those men and women who have had and some even spoken to God "face to face, as a man speaks with his friend" Exodus 33:11
Nothing you have written here so far could be construed by any real observing christian as biblical understanding. I humbly suggest you seek out a church in which the bible is actually read instead of the new age pamphlets and books that you read that have to do more with moral relativism than they do with christian teachings. If I were in Portland I would offer an invite to you to my church (although, given your aggressive behavior you would most likely reject the invitation) but there are churches in Portland where the Bible is actually read by ministers who have actually taken time to study it, so I urge you to at least go to one to see for yourself.
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To those of you - including Dan in his title - who wonder why these women didn't just decide to "share" him, i ask, are you fucking kidding me?
If you were being monogamous and found your partner was not.. .and found that your partner was in fact lying to you all the time and sleeping with a stable of other people would you say to yourself "Oh, golly! Time for a new perspective!" and go all Ethical Slut on someone who has just proven that he is unethical, disrespectful, and untrustworthy?
Give me a break. That is insulting and frankly, stupid.
If you were being monogamous and found your partner was not.. .and found that your partner was in fact lying to you all the time and sleeping with a stable of other people would you say to yourself "Oh, golly! Time for a new perspective!" and go all Ethical Slut on someone who has just proven that he is unethical, disrespectful, and untrustworthy?
Give me a break. That is insulting and frankly, stupid.
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53 56 This is precisely what I'm talking about, Uriel has come out more than once in defense of the "church" of satan and has justify his defense using the same distorted logic that you usually use. But know this Kim, even Uriel (as do all here who do not know Christ) has a better chance of being forgiven by our creator and gaining salvation than someone who claiming to know the teachings (such as you) of Christ chooses instead to throw off those who are living in murk and trying to follow the light that only Jesus can provide.
"I'm not her teacher"
Right you have said, for the one who came to teach us about the way to salvation and on how to reside with the heavenly Father for eternity was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
"I'm her elder in Christ"
Wrong, given the distortions of the Bible you have posted here nothing points out to you as being an "elder" of mine nor of any other true Christ follower in the knowledge of the living word which is after all the manual handed to those men who have had and some even spoken to God "face to face, as a man speaks with his friend" Exodus 33:11
Nothing you have written here so far could be construed by any real observing christian as Biblical understanding. I humbly suggest you seek out a church in which the bible is actually read instead of new age pamphlets and books that have to do more with moral relativism than they do with christian teachings. If I were in Portland I would offer an invite to you to my church (although, given your aggressive behavior you would most likely reject the invitation) but there are churches in Portland where the Bible is actually read by ministers who have actually taken time to study it, so I urge you to at least go to one to see for yourself.
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"I'm not her teacher"
Right you have said, for the one who came to teach us about the way to salvation and on how to reside with the heavenly Father for eternity was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
"I'm her elder in Christ"
Wrong, given the distortions of the Bible you have posted here nothing points out to you as being an "elder" of mine nor of any other true Christ follower in the knowledge of the living word which is after all the manual handed to those men who have had and some even spoken to God "face to face, as a man speaks with his friend" Exodus 33:11
Nothing you have written here so far could be construed by any real observing christian as Biblical understanding. I humbly suggest you seek out a church in which the bible is actually read instead of new age pamphlets and books that have to do more with moral relativism than they do with christian teachings. If I were in Portland I would offer an invite to you to my church (although, given your aggressive behavior you would most likely reject the invitation) but there are churches in Portland where the Bible is actually read by ministers who have actually taken time to study it, so I urge you to at least go to one to see for yourself.
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So what denomination do you belong to Loveschild? You are very coy about talking about your church or minister.
I do think it is amusing that you and your ilk believe you are the only true Christians in the world. Who were the true Christians in 1135? Has anyone been able to approach the truth of Jesus before your group came along?
These might sound like condescending questions, but I'm being sincere. What makes your interpretation of the Bible so much more true than the thousands of Christians that have gone before you?
I do think it is amusing that you and your ilk believe you are the only true Christians in the world. Who were the true Christians in 1135? Has anyone been able to approach the truth of Jesus before your group came along?
These might sound like condescending questions, but I'm being sincere. What makes your interpretation of the Bible so much more true than the thousands of Christians that have gone before you?
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@61
You're right, if I found out my girlfriend was cheating on me with a couple of other guys I wouldn't get together with all of them and suggest a real exploration of our sexual bouandries by opening the relationship. On the other hand I wouldn't get together with said couple of dudes, kidnap my girlfriend, super glue her pussy shut, and then punch her in the face.
I think Dan's point is that in the end it would be just as easy to share him as to kidnap and assault him. The unsaid point: even easier to walk away.
You're right, if I found out my girlfriend was cheating on me with a couple of other guys I wouldn't get together with all of them and suggest a real exploration of our sexual bouandries by opening the relationship. On the other hand I wouldn't get together with said couple of dudes, kidnap my girlfriend, super glue her pussy shut, and then punch her in the face.
I think Dan's point is that in the end it would be just as easy to share him as to kidnap and assault him. The unsaid point: even easier to walk away.
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Loveschild ... it's hard to judge what my personal sexual expectations are in general, because it changes on the person I encounter. Some people I like to be with for a while, some people I wouldn't mind spending a lifetime with.
Quite frankly, there are some women I downright I avoid because I KNOW my tempation to cheat on them would be too great. I have no idea why I feel that way, so I keep it in my pants.
Somehow, I think women are just that way with men. I've been hearing way too many of my female peers gripe about men not wanting to commit. In reality, they are pissed off because the guys they like don't want to commit. These days, I'm having trouble getting a girl commit to a cup of coffee or a conversation after I get a phone number ... and yet women blame it all on men.
Why? Because society places so much emphasis on women "settling down" that they supposedly feel less than human if they aren't tied down with a man, both socially and sexually (if they are lucky).
Honestly, I'm sick of the fricken hypocracy many women express. I know we all have bottom feeders that are in love with us that for some reason we all chose not to commit to because we feel we deserve better. But women place no ownership on their sexual agenda and blame it all on men.
Loveschild ... whatever.
Quite frankly, there are some women I downright I avoid because I KNOW my tempation to cheat on them would be too great. I have no idea why I feel that way, so I keep it in my pants.
Somehow, I think women are just that way with men. I've been hearing way too many of my female peers gripe about men not wanting to commit. In reality, they are pissed off because the guys they like don't want to commit. These days, I'm having trouble getting a girl commit to a cup of coffee or a conversation after I get a phone number ... and yet women blame it all on men.
Why? Because society places so much emphasis on women "settling down" that they supposedly feel less than human if they aren't tied down with a man, both socially and sexually (if they are lucky).
Honestly, I'm sick of the fricken hypocracy many women express. I know we all have bottom feeders that are in love with us that for some reason we all chose not to commit to because we feel we deserve better. But women place no ownership on their sexual agenda and blame it all on men.
Loveschild ... whatever.
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Sorry ... as for the Christian element ... I'm atheist and humanist.
Sometimes I interpret Jesus dying for our sins as ... Jesus was openly disobeying himself and damning himself that he can make the world a better place.
I suppose there might be a special place in hell for me ... but maybe I'm just a little more selfless than you ... in trying to be accepting and less judgemental of those that think and feel differently, and encouraging them to be happy with life choices ... so long as it doesn't adversly effect others.
If I die making people in this life happier with greater fullfillment in life, I suppose I'll burn with a smile on my face.
Sometimes I interpret Jesus dying for our sins as ... Jesus was openly disobeying himself and damning himself that he can make the world a better place.
I suppose there might be a special place in hell for me ... but maybe I'm just a little more selfless than you ... in trying to be accepting and less judgemental of those that think and feel differently, and encouraging them to be happy with life choices ... so long as it doesn't adversly effect others.
If I die making people in this life happier with greater fullfillment in life, I suppose I'll burn with a smile on my face.
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LC @ 29 "Where are the numbers, poll, study? I don't think that you could know anything from your own personal experience about these things Enigma, even if you like feminine things Enigma, only real women know what I'm saying."
LC @ # 22 "Most men are swines with a one track mind when you get to the nitty gritty of things. The vast majority of those who share the ideology of "sharing" (promiscuity) is men" Isn't it astonishing that you ask other people for numbers or for a reference to a study when you don't provide such references?
And LC, what is a "real woman?" Care to define your term? I'm very, very interested in your answer...as well as your answer to Enigma at # 63.
Breathlessly waiting, hoping not to turn blue,
LC @ # 22 "Most men are swines with a one track mind when you get to the nitty gritty of things. The vast majority of those who share the ideology of "sharing" (promiscuity) is men" Isn't it astonishing that you ask other people for numbers or for a reference to a study when you don't provide such references?
And LC, what is a "real woman?" Care to define your term? I'm very, very interested in your answer...as well as your answer to Enigma at # 63.
Breathlessly waiting, hoping not to turn blue,
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Loveschild,
Uriel-238, is in favor of separation of church and state. He used the Church of Satan (if that's what they call themselves) as an example of a minority religion that deserved protection under the law. When you accused him of being a satanist, and went on and on about how you prayed for him because of it, he replied for the second time that he is a naturalist and that he doesn't worship Satan. Maybe, you didn't read his response or it flew over your head?
The term elder, I was using the meaning for older and more experienced. I've been in the scriptures for over a decade. Your 139 days of newly pronounced devotion doesn't make you an authority on anything.
As to the rest of your illiterately written faux humble post. I do go to church, a conservative Protestant church. All we study is the Bible every week (the New International Version), we're expository, so we read each book in the Bible verse by verse. Even though, we are conservative and believe that the Bible is God breathed, we focus on our own individual poverty, how we each fall short of God's glory, we focus our energies on the community (homeless shelters, food banks, foster children, community resource for the elderly, etc.). We focus on our own logs, and not the splinter of our neighbors. It's a nice community to worship in, we know we are all sinners in the company of other sinners, each seeking to extend grace to others and love the world as Christ loves it and sacrificed himself for it. We worship God, not the US, not marriage, not the "traditional" family, not any ethnicity, and not our community, but God. Only God: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Uriel-238, is in favor of separation of church and state. He used the Church of Satan (if that's what they call themselves) as an example of a minority religion that deserved protection under the law. When you accused him of being a satanist, and went on and on about how you prayed for him because of it, he replied for the second time that he is a naturalist and that he doesn't worship Satan. Maybe, you didn't read his response or it flew over your head?
The term elder, I was using the meaning for older and more experienced. I've been in the scriptures for over a decade. Your 139 days of newly pronounced devotion doesn't make you an authority on anything.
As to the rest of your illiterately written faux humble post. I do go to church, a conservative Protestant church. All we study is the Bible every week (the New International Version), we're expository, so we read each book in the Bible verse by verse. Even though, we are conservative and believe that the Bible is God breathed, we focus on our own individual poverty, how we each fall short of God's glory, we focus our energies on the community (homeless shelters, food banks, foster children, community resource for the elderly, etc.). We focus on our own logs, and not the splinter of our neighbors. It's a nice community to worship in, we know we are all sinners in the company of other sinners, each seeking to extend grace to others and love the world as Christ loves it and sacrificed himself for it. We worship God, not the US, not marriage, not the "traditional" family, not any ethnicity, and not our community, but God. Only God: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Nobody else thinks that the cock-gluing woman was actually playing out her S&M humiliation fantasies?
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65 Some women do behave like that former tri-state , it might help tho to try to seek to take a different approach because the problem may well indeed not be with you but on the circumstances and places that have surrounded you. First is your perspective, it need to change, when you choose a woman as your partner you are not tying yourself, don't view it as a sentence, rather it's more like the beginning of a whole new (sometimes challenging but always fulfilling) journey. Secondly, if your female peers do not see the qualities that make you a desirable partner even after you have made you best attempts at showing it to them and instead they bitch about other guys not being willing to come into union with them as man and wife, then expand your horizons to other circles where you will be appreciated because not only are they wasting your time but they're also being disrespectful to you as a man. Hypocrisy might be prevalent especially in the intellectual and sexually libertine circles when it comes to men and women relations but it may also be that those circles have rejected and in so doing forgotten some of the basic principles that were good for said relationships, like placing more value on the inner beauty of the individual first and foremost, accentuating those characteristics that were particular to each gender and which made them more desirable to the opposite sex and the continuation of courtship manners that served not only for a more safe sexual intimacy once in marriage but also had the purpose of letting one to know better one's boyfriend or girlfriend (as it would be in your case).
If the environment you've been in has not worked for you, then shake off the dust of your feet and consider maybe coming to a house of worship or similar like minded circles. I guarantee you that some of the ladies you will find there have both inner and outer beauty, and the desire of spending a lifetime with' will not only be yours but that of your partner as well. Because the woman who you'll find there and unites her journey in this life to yours will do so with a clear understanding of what she wants, and in pleasing you she will derive pleasure herself (if you get my drift).
You sound like a great man, if you truly want to spend your life with a woman you really love, I see you soon entering into a sacred union with a very lucky girl.
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If the environment you've been in has not worked for you, then shake off the dust of your feet and consider maybe coming to a house of worship or similar like minded circles. I guarantee you that some of the ladies you will find there have both inner and outer beauty, and the desire of spending a lifetime with' will not only be yours but that of your partner as well. Because the woman who you'll find there and unites her journey in this life to yours will do so with a clear understanding of what she wants, and in pleasing you she will derive pleasure herself (if you get my drift).
You sound like a great man, if you truly want to spend your life with a woman you really love, I see you soon entering into a sacred union with a very lucky girl.
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Loveschild ... I'm not complaining about being slighted ... I'm just as guilty as the next HUMAN BEING. I'm just complaining about being in the room and being blamed for the ills of all men, when I'm doing the best I can.
I'm just sick of the select few women in my surroundings that play the victim card ... whoah is me, I am woman take care of me.
I've had to do it before, but I literally WRITE PEOPLE OFF when they use their misery to try keep me around. It's the only merciful thing I can think of.
IF I do want to spend my life with someone, it will be with well ... 1st someone I love, and someone I can build a future with. Until then life, goes on ... I tried to edit some of my post, but to not generalize all women ... but I guess it posted before I get to fix all the errors ... and I was thinking about the gym and a minor rent crisis came up.
You know, as much I love Seattle, the economy, the nanny state, the disgustingly SLOW mail system and beauracracy is not making a great case for making this place livable
I would have been back in CT if I wasn't (fortunately) tied down in my lease. Let's face it, I'm not exactly long term bf material. I'll just enjoy the pleasent company here and there, because when I was locked in my research lab getting my degree, it was so much worse!
I'm just sick of the select few women in my surroundings that play the victim card ... whoah is me, I am woman take care of me.
I've had to do it before, but I literally WRITE PEOPLE OFF when they use their misery to try keep me around. It's the only merciful thing I can think of.
IF I do want to spend my life with someone, it will be with well ... 1st someone I love, and someone I can build a future with. Until then life, goes on ... I tried to edit some of my post, but to not generalize all women ... but I guess it posted before I get to fix all the errors ... and I was thinking about the gym and a minor rent crisis came up.
You know, as much I love Seattle, the economy, the nanny state, the disgustingly SLOW mail system and beauracracy is not making a great case for making this place livable
I would have been back in CT if I wasn't (fortunately) tied down in my lease. Let's face it, I'm not exactly long term bf material. I'll just enjoy the pleasent company here and there, because when I was locked in my research lab getting my degree, it was so much worse!
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Another Loveschild bitch fight to scroll over...
I gotta be real, he had it coming. When you play with fire... Your dick might get glued to your belly button.
I gotta be real, he had it coming. When you play with fire... Your dick might get glued to your belly button.
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And no ... it's not tying yourself down. It's not life sentence. It should be an adventure. Many women I meet view a relationship as a security blanket. Hence I avoid them like the plague. Obviously, they are more in love with the relationship than the guys in them.
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Loveschild has got to be a massive wind up as part of some warped attempt at a joke. I can't believe that anyone who thinks the way Loveschild purports to think would willingly expose themselves to all the wonderful faggotry and debauchery that is Slog. I know there are plenty of crazy fundies out there, but would they really spend their time trawling these pages? I don't buy it.
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Their rage may not come entirely from the fact the Cassanova was sleeping around on them. In fact this guy is a con-artist and had ripped them all off for thousands and thousands of dollars each. I don't think I'd super glue anyone's dick for cheating, maybe yell and throw some shit around, but if the douche emptied my bank accounts and ran up my credit cards, there'd be hell to pay.
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@80 I agree. I wish more Christians were like her.
Hey Love-shill, love the new avatar. By the way, how's your infinitely loving God doing today?
Hey Love-shill, love the new avatar. By the way, how's your infinitely loving God doing today?
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C from Mass, Aussie Steve, and Memorex,
I love you all, too. You all, each in your own way, have captured a piece of my ever expanding heart. Thank you all.
I love you all, too. You all, each in your own way, have captured a piece of my ever expanding heart. Thank you all.
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74 Please forgive me if I even implied that you were complaining, that was not my intention. The feelings you're expressing are very legitimate. You know I find it quite interesting that you say that the women in your surroundings (I assume atheist and humanist) like to play the victim card and want to be taken care of. You know all the women (religious) I've known and from which I have drawn my own character have been strong and independent, a far cry from the caricature that some like paint us as.
"IF I do want to spend my life with someone, it will be with well ... 1st someone I love, and someone I can build a future with."
Those are beautiful sentiments, I don't know who are these women that seem to be unable to recognize how rare your feelings are in today's world.
"I'm not exactly long term bf material."
You most certainly aren't, you're husband material.
Don't sell yourself short and expand your surroundings to women in other circles that you because of your beliefs (or lack thereof(don't take it as disrespect on my part)) you have not consider to present yourself to. That's all I'm saying.
Life's to precious to live it unhappy, there's always a way out, if Seattle is no longer doing it for you and you want to go back to New England then find a way to get back to where your heart is, if you're a learned man you'll be able to think of a solution.
I know as an atheist you don't believe in God but since you have expressed such high values in your comments above I want to share with you a passage from which I've drawn strength when I have found myself in somewhat difficult circumstances.
'Be strong and courageous! Don't tremble or be terrified, because the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.'" Joshua 1:9
You're a professional man, you seem to have real manly characteristics and a strong set of values. Why can't you be successful and find a woman to share a lifetime with? There's no reason why you can't. So don't remain static former tri-state that's the worst thing you could do.
Find a way to be completely happy, both you and that very special lady waiting to find you deserve it.
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"IF I do want to spend my life with someone, it will be with well ... 1st someone I love, and someone I can build a future with."
Those are beautiful sentiments, I don't know who are these women that seem to be unable to recognize how rare your feelings are in today's world.
"I'm not exactly long term bf material."
You most certainly aren't, you're husband material.
Don't sell yourself short and expand your surroundings to women in other circles that you because of your beliefs (or lack thereof(don't take it as disrespect on my part)) you have not consider to present yourself to. That's all I'm saying.
Life's to precious to live it unhappy, there's always a way out, if Seattle is no longer doing it for you and you want to go back to New England then find a way to get back to where your heart is, if you're a learned man you'll be able to think of a solution.
I know as an atheist you don't believe in God but since you have expressed such high values in your comments above I want to share with you a passage from which I've drawn strength when I have found myself in somewhat difficult circumstances.
'Be strong and courageous! Don't tremble or be terrified, because the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.'" Joshua 1:9
You're a professional man, you seem to have real manly characteristics and a strong set of values. Why can't you be successful and find a woman to share a lifetime with? There's no reason why you can't. So don't remain static former tri-state that's the worst thing you could do.
Find a way to be completely happy, both you and that very special lady waiting to find you deserve it.
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# 77 Aussie Steve:
I used to wonder the same: now I think Loveschild is trawling these pages looking to convert someone. Look at all the advice she's just lavished on Former Tri State - all warm and motherly - right after she snarls at Kim for being, of all things, unChristian.
I used to wonder the same: now I think Loveschild is trawling these pages looking to convert someone. Look at all the advice she's just lavished on Former Tri State - all warm and motherly - right after she snarls at Kim for being, of all things, unChristian.
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Hey there Theo. After reading #84 I think you might be right. What do I know anyway? I'm just an interloper (got to get me to Seattle one of these days...).
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Aussie Steve,
If you make it to Seattle, try and take the drive south to Portland (around 3 1/2 hours) and I'll buy you a beer or whiskey.
If you make it to Seattle, try and take the drive south to Portland (around 3 1/2 hours) and I'll buy you a beer or whiskey.
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Well, if we're keeping tabs on who's been a Christian the longest, I'm at 34+ years...
At Jesus' feet was thrown a woman caught in adultery, and his response to those who felt justified in condemning her behavior was to turn the issue back on the accusers. "If you haven't done something worthy of condemnation at some point, then I guess you have the right to hurl a rock at her." Doesn't seem to me like Jesus would be applauding the behavior of the women in this post.
The New Testament says whatever is "pure," "lovely," and "of good repute, think on these things" (Philippians 4:8). If someone thinks that the things people on this site say are impure, unlovely, and of ill repute, then perhaps that person should not spend time letting his or her mind dwell here?
I, on the other hand, am with Paul: "Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own Master he stands or falls, and stand he will, for the Lord is able to make him stand." (Romans 14:4) Whenever anyone tells me that I "can't" be a Christian because I haven't lived up to their standards of "righteousness", I point them right back to this one.
At Jesus' feet was thrown a woman caught in adultery, and his response to those who felt justified in condemning her behavior was to turn the issue back on the accusers. "If you haven't done something worthy of condemnation at some point, then I guess you have the right to hurl a rock at her." Doesn't seem to me like Jesus would be applauding the behavior of the women in this post.
The New Testament says whatever is "pure," "lovely," and "of good repute, think on these things" (Philippians 4:8). If someone thinks that the things people on this site say are impure, unlovely, and of ill repute, then perhaps that person should not spend time letting his or her mind dwell here?
I, on the other hand, am with Paul: "Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own Master he stands or falls, and stand he will, for the Lord is able to make him stand." (Romans 14:4) Whenever anyone tells me that I "can't" be a Christian because I haven't lived up to their standards of "righteousness", I point them right back to this one.
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Kim @ 58, that's correct, that's what I was getting at. Sorry if that was presumptuous, as I meant that she ought to be listening and learning from you.
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Honestly ... I was never THAT gung ho about a wife ... It all comes in stages ...
I think if there was one thing I learned about my folks ... it was there second marriage that worked out. And basically, it was because there was no reason to NOT get married. My mom and step dad spent about 5 years togethor before tying the knot. My Dad and step mom ... about a decade.
I'm not OVERLY concerned ... it's just hypocritical whining from friends that ... to be honest, I'm not exactly sure why they are my friends ...
oh yeah ... with respect to the post ... I have this strange feeling that they all deserve each other.
Does that sound horrible?
I think if there was one thing I learned about my folks ... it was there second marriage that worked out. And basically, it was because there was no reason to NOT get married. My mom and step dad spent about 5 years togethor before tying the knot. My Dad and step mom ... about a decade.
I'm not OVERLY concerned ... it's just hypocritical whining from friends that ... to be honest, I'm not exactly sure why they are my friends ...
oh yeah ... with respect to the post ... I have this strange feeling that they all deserve each other.
Does that sound horrible?
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Loveschild:
I used to be Christian. It's the continual one-upsmanship, holier-than-thou attitude of churchgoers such as yourself, that drove me away from my lovely Episcopal church. As it happens, the spiritual understanding I have come to since then suits me just fine, but seeing the same behavior I encountered in my teen years, reproduced here is really vexing. Your little snipefest with Kim, who started off being only kind to you - well, to everyone - is definitely not a truly Christian attitude.
In the book of Leviticus, it says, "The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself."
From the book of Micah, it says, "What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love kindness and walk humbly with your God?"
From the Gospel of Matthew it says, "Do not judge, so that you may not be judged... Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own?"
And from Paul in the Letter to the Romans, "For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor heights, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation shall separate us from the love of God."
LC, you judge; you do not love others as yourself, instead condemning them while claiming God's love for them; you do not walk humbly; you are quick to find the fault with everyone else, but never, ever, with yourself.
You're a perfect example of what's wrong with the church. I long for the day we can all resist responding to your tricks, because then you'd get bored & leave. Seriously, Sloggers, LC = religious bully. & the way to make a bully stop is to just not respond. I know we don't have the willpower to do so, but that's what would do it. Alas.
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about not crazy-gluing your cheating hubby's penis to his groin. But adultery, despite the whole David-Bathsheba affair, & the multiple wives: well, they frown upon it. Sometimes:
Ephesians 5:5 says: " "No whoremonger, no unclean person hath an inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God."
But: Lamech, Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and others all had multiple wives.
*shrug* The Bible can support many different positions.
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I used to be Christian. It's the continual one-upsmanship, holier-than-thou attitude of churchgoers such as yourself, that drove me away from my lovely Episcopal church. As it happens, the spiritual understanding I have come to since then suits me just fine, but seeing the same behavior I encountered in my teen years, reproduced here is really vexing. Your little snipefest with Kim, who started off being only kind to you - well, to everyone - is definitely not a truly Christian attitude.
In the book of Leviticus, it says, "The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself."
From the book of Micah, it says, "What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love kindness and walk humbly with your God?"
From the Gospel of Matthew it says, "Do not judge, so that you may not be judged... Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own?"
And from Paul in the Letter to the Romans, "For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor heights, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation shall separate us from the love of God."
LC, you judge; you do not love others as yourself, instead condemning them while claiming God's love for them; you do not walk humbly; you are quick to find the fault with everyone else, but never, ever, with yourself.
You're a perfect example of what's wrong with the church. I long for the day we can all resist responding to your tricks, because then you'd get bored & leave. Seriously, Sloggers, LC = religious bully. & the way to make a bully stop is to just not respond. I know we don't have the willpower to do so, but that's what would do it. Alas.
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about not crazy-gluing your cheating hubby's penis to his groin. But adultery, despite the whole David-Bathsheba affair, & the multiple wives: well, they frown upon it. Sometimes:
Ephesians 5:5 says: " "No whoremonger, no unclean person hath an inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God."
But: Lamech, Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and others all had multiple wives.
*shrug* The Bible can support many different positions.
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And Kim: if i'm ever in Portland, I;ll take you up on that offer. But I'm warning you, when I get drunk, I talk philosophy and then the queen of sciences, theolology! You may wish me to stick to Coke!
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So how did this thread get from a cock glued to a stomach and morph into a discussion about a fairy tale book and some nutcase religion?
Some men wish their cock was long enough to glue to their stomach.
Some men wish their cock was long enough to glue to their stomach.
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Thanks, Juniegirl.
I've only been a Christian for about 30 years, it's only in the last 11 years that I've been heavy in the Bible study part. I appreciate your comments.
I've only been a Christian for about 30 years, it's only in the last 11 years that I've been heavy in the Bible study part. I appreciate your comments.
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Kim if you buy me a whiskey I'll love you even more than I do now. Especially if it's that stuff they make down in Kentucky. Matter of fact, I think I'll have one this evening and toast your health. Elijah (good biblical name) Craig seems equal to the task...
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Aussie Steve,
Bourbon it is then. I'll go pour the glass, neat. To your health as well. Enjoy your evening.
Bourbon it is then. I'll go pour the glass, neat. To your health as well. Enjoy your evening.
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It's completely uncalled for to glue the guy's cock to his stomach. He's a cheater and an asshole, but it's not as if he's a rapist or something.
Cheating is bad, but it's not bad enough to justify violence. Call him an asshole, kick him out of the house, even (this is, after all, pretty bullshit, it's not a one-off incident), but there's no justification for violence.
Cheating is bad, but it's not bad enough to justify violence. Call him an asshole, kick him out of the house, even (this is, after all, pretty bullshit, it's not a one-off incident), but there's no justification for violence.
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When it comes to whiskey, Irish is the only way to go. If it's good enough to resurrect Tim Finnegan, it's good enough for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_k2GG-H_…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_k2GG-H_…
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Just to state the situation plainly and to get back on topic, this is assault--not major assault, because stickydink wasn't injured (pride aside) as far as I can tell, but still assault--and it's good that the the women are facing legal consequences, which hopefully will be proportionate to the "prank gone wrong" quality of the crime.
Oh yeah, and it's crummy to insult people's looks. Can we not do that?
Oh yeah, and it's crummy to insult people's looks. Can we not do that?
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@97 and all the theology wonks
We should throw a religious discussion night and just go crazy! I won't partake in the whiskey, but give me a good Hefewiesen and I'll talk your car off about religious theory.
We should throw a religious discussion night and just go crazy! I won't partake in the whiskey, but give me a good Hefewiesen and I'll talk your car off about religious theory.
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Are there any photos of the guy we can laugh at too?
I'm not asking to make some kind of point about any double standard with how society treats men and women, I just really want to make fun of him too.
I'm not asking to make some kind of point about any double standard with how society treats men and women, I just really want to make fun of him too.
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@103, I love a good Irish too, but I have to say, America makes some of the best whiskeys in the world, and I'm someone who spends way too much time and way too many liver/brain cells sampling them...
Ta for the Dubliners by the way - here's back at you and then some: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgYml2eok…
Ta for the Dubliners by the way - here's back at you and then some: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgYml2eok…
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@107
Oy. Thanks as well for the Pogues.
Well then my Aussie friend, if ever you're in San Diego we'll make the rounds and see if we can find the best whiskey in town. And along the way, I'm sure we'll find enough good beers to keep us going.
Oy. Thanks as well for the Pogues.
Well then my Aussie friend, if ever you're in San Diego we'll make the rounds and see if we can find the best whiskey in town. And along the way, I'm sure we'll find enough good beers to keep us going.
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How did this post turn into a Christian pissing contest? This is a story about a guy who had his COCK glued to his stomach. Sweet jeebus, don't you people have any other forums to spout on?
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As proponent of open relationships, I rather dislike the way Dan constantly seems to conflate the 'open relationship' option with the 'letting your scumbag partner cheat' option.
It's no wonder so many people think so badly of open relationships if they thinks its like discovering your partner is lying and manipulating you and a bunch of other women, and then just going along with it. To me at least, that a wold away from the kind of fair and honest arrangement that most open relationships I've been in or known about tend to be (and I'm female, lest anyone thinks only guys think like this).
The sad fact is, that quite alot of people I know who cheat wouldn't rather have any kind of 'sharing', they like being able to get multiple people to commit to them totally, while holding their own options wide open, and are aware its difficult to arrange that without manipulating people into it unwillingly.
I can't condone the physical violence, but DTMFA would have been my advice to any of the women, not 'see if you can agree to share'.
It's no wonder so many people think so badly of open relationships if they thinks its like discovering your partner is lying and manipulating you and a bunch of other women, and then just going along with it. To me at least, that a wold away from the kind of fair and honest arrangement that most open relationships I've been in or known about tend to be (and I'm female, lest anyone thinks only guys think like this).
The sad fact is, that quite alot of people I know who cheat wouldn't rather have any kind of 'sharing', they like being able to get multiple people to commit to them totally, while holding their own options wide open, and are aware its difficult to arrange that without manipulating people into it unwillingly.
I can't condone the physical violence, but DTMFA would have been my advice to any of the women, not 'see if you can agree to share'.
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I like this. Women are usually hating on each other when some guy cheats on them. Nice to see the sisters working together to put the hate where it belongs... on his cheating ass, or what have you.
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Loveschild, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, you don't follow the Bible. You only cherry pick scripture that you can use it to attack others whom you hate. You just ignore the stuff you don't want to follow.
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Note -- the man in question in now in jail on a whole slew of charges:
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/…
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/…
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Aussie Steve @ 107,
Whiskey is a beautiful thing, be it Scotch, Irish or Bourbon. I often see individuals with shirts that read,"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-- Benjamin Franklin
I've often thought that whiskey is living proof that God has good taste and he want us to enjoy it. So, no worries about time spent, brain cells lost, or liver cells being damaged. Taste and enjoy, just do it responsibly. Cheers!
Whiskey is a beautiful thing, be it Scotch, Irish or Bourbon. I often see individuals with shirts that read,"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-- Benjamin Franklin
I've often thought that whiskey is living proof that God has good taste and he want us to enjoy it. So, no worries about time spent, brain cells lost, or liver cells being damaged. Taste and enjoy, just do it responsibly. Cheers!
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Kim here's something we can really agree on! As I always say, whiskey is just beer that's been perfected.
When I next cross the pond I'll take you up on your offer. And I'll bring my Maton with me...
When I next cross the pond I'll take you up on your offer. And I'll bring my Maton with me...
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Kim, I kind of love you too (agnostic secular humanist that I am), and if any of you ever make it to Scotland, I'll buy you all a nice single malt.
Regarding these women and that guy, I do feel a little vindictive thrill that the guy got what was coming to him. On the other hand, this is real life, and no one deserves to ACTUALLY have their dick superglued to their stomach (let alone endure the physical assault and verbal bullying that apparently went with it). That being said, openaboutlove is right. Wtf are you thinking, Dan, asking why they don't just share him?! This douche is a manipulative, cheating, lying asshole (who probably put them all at risk of STIs, I might add); DTMFA!
Regarding these women and that guy, I do feel a little vindictive thrill that the guy got what was coming to him. On the other hand, this is real life, and no one deserves to ACTUALLY have their dick superglued to their stomach (let alone endure the physical assault and verbal bullying that apparently went with it). That being said, openaboutlove is right. Wtf are you thinking, Dan, asking why they don't just share him?! This douche is a manipulative, cheating, lying asshole (who probably put them all at risk of STIs, I might add); DTMFA!
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Dan, I'm a huge fan of yours, and I rarely disagree with you, but as a polyamorous person, I must point out that this situation has nothing to do with sharing. I'm happy to share my lovers in an open and honest manner, but if I found out that someone had been this incredibly dishonest with me, well, I sure as hell wouldn't do any nonconsensual physical damage to him, but it wouldn't be a pretty conversation to say the least. Don't get me wrong, these women are completely psychopathic, but would you really expect them to decide that everything was OK and the guy was an angel after finding out about each other? I'd probably sky write, "John Doe is a big cheating douche bag who sucks in bed."
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Why would anybody listen to Loveschild when it comes to religion? She's just some black sow who probably converted in order to get an early parole.
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If four men attacked a woman in this manner they would be tossed in jail and branded misogynistic monsters. Nancy Grace would bash them nightly for decades and no one would publicly consider the cheating woman got what she deserved.
The same was true when Lorena Bobbitt sliced off her husband's penis while he slept. Women everywhere hailed her as some kind of hero. If a man mutilated a woman's vagina (say, sliced off her clitoris) while she slept, he would be branded the worst kind of savage and (rightfully) tossed in jail for life.
The bottom line is the Super Glue revenge women are crazy savages and they should all do hard time in jail for their crimes. As I recall, Lorena Bobbitt got a slap on the wrist. That was a gross miscarriage of justice.
I'm not excusing the men for cheating in either of these cases, but if someone is unhappy in a marriage and suspects his/her partner of cheating, then LEAVE. End the relationship. That's what civilized people do. I say throw the book at these lunatic women, and shame to anyone (male or female) who celebrates savage behavior like this. Two wrongs don't make a right.
The same was true when Lorena Bobbitt sliced off her husband's penis while he slept. Women everywhere hailed her as some kind of hero. If a man mutilated a woman's vagina (say, sliced off her clitoris) while she slept, he would be branded the worst kind of savage and (rightfully) tossed in jail for life.
The bottom line is the Super Glue revenge women are crazy savages and they should all do hard time in jail for their crimes. As I recall, Lorena Bobbitt got a slap on the wrist. That was a gross miscarriage of justice.
I'm not excusing the men for cheating in either of these cases, but if someone is unhappy in a marriage and suspects his/her partner of cheating, then LEAVE. End the relationship. That's what civilized people do. I say throw the book at these lunatic women, and shame to anyone (male or female) who celebrates savage behavior like this. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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