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Friday, September 11, 2009

The Morning News

Posted by on Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:36 AM

9/11: Obama speaks on the anniversary of 9/11.

Democrats Against War-Mongering President: Obama faces doubt from within on Afghanistan.

Don't Start With Me: Iran warns opposition leaders.

McWin: Dominic Holden calls debate for McGinn, the PI agrees.

Of Course You Realize, This Means War: Rockets from Lebanon hit Israel.

Tell It to the Judge: Pakistani forces arrest Taliban leader.

Protecting the Bigots: Judge shields R-71 signers.

They Don't Need Any Money; They're Poor! G20 denies cash for developing nations.

They Don't Need Any Health Care; They're Poor! Top Democrats weaken on public option.

Jail to the Chief: Corrupt ex-president of Taiwan gets life in prison.

Stupid Media: Vilsack says media screwed up swine flu coverage.

Oozing Class: Kent man tells woman to have sex with him or he'll post nude photos of her on the internet.

And Now, Your Daily Muppet, Guest-Starring a Feral Alan Arkin:

 

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Cato the Younger Younger 1
Just for the record my grandmother said a year before she died, December 7, 1941 was never milked as completely as September 11, 2001.

A nation that clings to past tragedies more than looking to the future is clearly in the decline and fall phase of its existence.
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on September 11, 2009 at 7:45 AM
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On September 12, 2007, Peter Tatchell of The Guardian wrote:

Six years after 9/11, the American public have still not been provided with a full and truthful account of the single greatest terror attack in US history.

What they got was a turkey. The 9/11 Commission was hamstrung by official obstruction. It never managed to ascertain the whole truth of what happened on September 11 2001.

The chair and vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, respectively Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, assert in their book, Without Precedent, that they were "set up to fail" and were starved of funds to do a proper investigation. They also confirm that they were denied access to the truth and misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the federal aviation authority; and that this obstruction and deception led them to contemplate slapping officials with criminal charges.

Despite the many public statements by 9/11 commissioners and staff members acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been charged, tried, or even reprimanded, for lying to the 9/11 Commission.

From the outset, the commission seemed to be hobbled. It did not start work until over a year after the attacks. Even then, its terms of reference were suspiciously narrow, its powers of investigation curiously limited and its time-frame for producing a report unhelpfully short - barely a year to sift through millions of pages of evidence and to interview hundreds of key witnesses.

The final report did not examine key evidence, and neglected serious anomalies in the various accounts of what happened. The commissioners admit their report was incomplete and flawed, and that many questions about the terror attacks remain unanswered. Nevertheless, the 9/11 Commission was swiftly closed down on August 21 2004.

I do not believe in conspiracy theories. I prefer rigorous, evidence-based analysis that sifts through the known facts and utilises expert opinion to draw conclusions that stand up to critical scrutiny. In other words, I believe in everything the 9/11 Commission was not.

The failings of the official investigation have fuelled too many half-baked conspiracy theories. Some of the 9/11 "truth" groups promote speculative hypotheses, ignore innocent explanations, cite non-expert sources and jump to conclusions that are not proven by the known facts. They convert mere coincidence and circumstantial evidence into cast-iron proof. This is no way to debunk the obfuscations and evasions of the 9/11 report.

But even amid the hype, some of these 9/11 groups raise valid and important questions that were never even considered, let alone answered, by the official investigation. The American public has not been told the complete truth about the events of that fateful autumn morning six years ago.

What happened on 9/11 is fundamentally important in its own right. But equally important is the way the 9/11 cover-up signifies an absence of democratic, transparent and accountable government. Establishing the truth is, in part, about restoring honesty, trust and confidence in American politics.

There are dozens of 9/11 "truth" websites and campaign groups. I cannot vouch for the veracity or credibility of any of them. But what I can say is that as well as making plenty of seemingly outrageous claims; a few of them raise legitimate questions that demand answers.

Four of these well known "tell the truth" 9/11 websites are:

1) Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which includes academics and intellectuals from many disciplines.

2) 250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' a website that cites over 250 pieces of evidence that allegedly contradict, or were omitted from, the 9/11 Commission report.

3) The 911 Truth Campaign that, as well as offering its own evidence and theories, includes links to more than 20 similar websites.

4) Patriots Question 9/11, perhaps the most plausible array of distinguished US citizens who question the official account of 9/11, including General Wesley Clark, former Nato commander in Europe, and seven members and staffers of the official 9/11 Commission, including the chair and vice chair. In all, this website documents the doubts of 110+ senior military, intelligence service, law enforcement and government officials; 200+ engineers and architects; 50+ pilots and aviation professionals; 150+ professors; 90+ entertainment and media people; and 190+ 9/11 survivors and family members. Although this is an impressive roll call, it doesn't necessarily mean that these expert professionals are right. Nevertheless, their scepticism of the official version of events is reason to pause and reflect.

More and more US citizens are critical of the official account. The respected Zogby polling organisation last week found that 51% of Americans want Congress to probe President Bush and Vice-President Cheney regarding the truth about the 9/11 attacks; 67% are also critical of the 9/11 Commission for not investigating the bizarre, unexplained collapse of the 47-storey World Trade Centre building 7 (WTC7). This building was not hit by any planes. Unlike WTC3, which was badly damaged by falling debris from the Twin Towers but which remained standing, WTC7 suffered minor damage but suddenly collapsed in a neat pile, as happens in a controlled demolition.

In a 2006 interview with anchorman Evan Soloman of CBC's Sunday programme, the vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, was reminded that the commission report failed to even mention the collapse of WTC7 or the suspicious hurried removal of the building debris from the site - before there could be a proper forensic investigation of what was a crime scene. Hamilton could only offer the lame excuse that the commissioners did not have "unlimited time" and could not be expected to answer "every question" the public asks.

There are many, many more strange unexplained facts concerning the events of 9/11. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to be puzzled and want an explanation, or to be sceptical concerning the official version of events.

Six years on from those terrible events, the survivors, and the friends and families of those who died, deserve to know the truth. Is honesty and transparency concerning 9/11 too much to ask of the president and Congress?

What is needed is a new and truly independent commission of inquiry to sort coincidence and conjecture from fact, and to provide answers to the unsolved anomalies in the evidence available concerning the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Unlike the often-stymied first investigation, this new commission should be granted wide-ranging subpoena powers and unfettered access to government files and officials. George Bush should be called to testify, without his minders at hand to brief and prompt him. America - and the world - has a right to know the truth.

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Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on September 11, 2009 at 7:57 AM
lizzie 3
“By continuing to mislabel this pandemic H1N1 Influenza Virus, we’re affecting populations around the world. The media is causing, in my view, undue and undeserved harm to America’s agricultural industry, especially to the pork producers in the United States,” Vilsack said.

Give me a fucking break. No, you can't get swine flu from eating pork or chicken. Yes, swine flu was caused by the terribly packed and unhealthy conditions at pig and bird farms.

The Secretary of Agriculture should be working to prevent the next (worse) swine or avian flu by bettering the awful conditions at animal farms, like they have done in California. He should not be propping up factory bird meat or pork producers, which are the cause of the problem.
Posted by lizzie on September 11, 2009 at 8:04 AM
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You call this crap "news"?

We want to hear about Joe Fucking Wilson.
Posted by RIGHT NOW on September 11, 2009 at 8:05 AM
Baconcat 5
Questions and speculation are not truth, sorry Truthers :(

In terms of the P-I agreeing with Dominic that McGinn won the debate? Well! That certainly proves a rapid deterioration of the modern mainstream media! I'm going to get all my news from TMZ from now on.
Posted by Baconcat on September 11, 2009 at 8:06 AM
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re:Afghanistan

we tried to tell you Obama the Magic Negro wouldn't be able to do all the wonderful things he promised.
do you still insist his farts smell good?
Posted by Slow Learners on September 11, 2009 at 8:09 AM
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Muppets = not that funny anymore
Posted by sorry to be the one to break it to you on September 11, 2009 at 8:11 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 8
Can we ban sloggers from posting whole/partial articles in the comment section? Seriously, if they want to link to something or a brief quote, that's totally cool but this idea of posting a 6 page article on a comment thread is out of control.
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on September 11, 2009 at 8:20 AM
rob! 9
@1, it is a difficult question. The relative self-centeredness of our times means that we want recognition and validation by others of our own grief and suffering, yet everyone has friends/family/colleagues who died early/tragically/needlessly/violently. When I was a kid, you never saw white crosses with plastic flowers at the sites of fatal road accidents; now they're common, though the rate of deadly accidents has fallen. I was just thinking that if every such death in the last few thousand years were marked and memorialized, we'd scarcely be able to turn around, and our current civilization would be built atop deep layers of monuments.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on September 11, 2009 at 8:20 AM
rob! 10
And we'd be virtually paralyzed by daily "moments of silence."
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on September 11, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 11
@9, Amen to that! I lost a boyfriend in the first tower that was struck, dealt with the loss and moved on with life. I watched some of the memorial at ground zero this morning and only could think to myself "what a bunch of pitty whores". Sorry to be an asshole but the dead are dead; focus on the living.
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on September 11, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 12
I've got to wonder: If a bunch of idiots had flown airplanes into two office buildings in downtown Seattle eight years ago, killing close to 3,000 of your friends, relatives, neighbors and co-workers, would you be so quick to forget about it and "move on?"
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on September 11, 2009 at 8:32 AM
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@12, who did you loose on 9-11?
Posted by Get Real Dude on September 11, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Baconcat 14
@12: Well, that's a stupid question. Nobody to any great extent is telling family and friends of victims or New Yorkers to move on. People with absolutely no connection to the events? Absolutely.

So stop buying "9/11 commemorative silver dollars" from the liberian mint.
Posted by Baconcat on September 11, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 15
@12 Public mouning is appropriate for a period of time (and even something that is needed) and then it's time for it to be private. After 8 years to bring out what should be private mourning back into the public eye is frankly a little sick. And the media is more than willing to further exploit it.
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on September 11, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 16
Agreed about the media exploitation, but that's the nature of the beast. As for the people in New York, D.C., and Pennsylvania, I think they have every right to hold a ceremony of remembrance.

Oh, and I didn't "loose" anyone. I did, however, lose several friends and co-workers.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on September 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM
hartiepie 17
@9 those crosses and flowers have been around this part of the country (the southwest) for centuries. In Spanish they are called descansos....hardly a new concept or an attempt to beg for attention as you suggest.

They distinctly are not a public memorial like the 9/11 crowd are always begging for.
Posted by hartiepie on September 11, 2009 at 9:11 AM
meowmeowkitty 18
@ public option -- this is your government failing.
Posted by meowmeowkitty on September 11, 2009 at 9:13 AM
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@4, today's health care news media distraction is going to be the ACORN prostitution story; reread your talking points
Posted by fox blast fax on September 11, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Loveschild 20
Parents, family members and real true friends and lovers are not so quick to forget. But that's how some see those who truly love as " pitty whores".

None the less to those of us who have not forgotten the tragic loss of eight years ago today, To those who are capable of true love and are able to move on in this life while at the same time holding in your heart the memories of those loved ones who are no longer here with us on this earthly plain but who know that someday we will be reunited with them alongside our Heavenly Father. For those of us who remember and make sure that their lives were not taken in vain and that we secure that their memory is never lost making this world a better place by such, I want to offer my most sincere respect and solidarity with you.

I will never forget, I promise that.
Posted by Loveschild http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/articles/responding_to_haiti_earthquake/ on September 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Lord Basil 21
@2, you are a Truther Traitor.

Ironic that Barack Hussein Obama the Usurper speaks on such a solemn day, because his presidency guarantees that it will happen again.

And it may be a freedom loving American, driven over the edge by the neo-nazi Obama imagery, who does it.
Posted by Lord Basil http://lordbasil.blogspot.com/ on September 11, 2009 at 9:30 AM
rob! 22
@17, I'm aware of the Hispanic traditions. I didn't say it was a new idea. The roadside memorials to traffic deaths have, in fact, greatly increased in recent decades, particularly outside of the southwestern U.S. and in other countries around the world. And they are public memorials, in public places, usually with names emblazoned, inviting sympathy or at least contemplation of mortality. If they weren't public memorials, those for whom they have private significance could simply remember the locations with mile markers, maps, or GPS.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on September 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Will in Seattle 23
More people died and the explosions were way worse on Dec. 7, 1941.

Time to stop obsessing over this minor event.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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19
damn, you're right-
Glenn will be pissed at me...
Posted by disciplined gop on September 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM
McGee 25
@21 Why don't you put your money where you mouth is and do it yourself you gutless punk weasel? You're no freedom lover. You're all talk and bullshit.

@20 Shut up you damn dough-head! How many of your closest janitor friends did your black ass lose that day?
Posted by McGee on September 11, 2009 at 10:18 AM
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More points to consider:


  • 9/11 Commission Memo states the executive branch sent “minders” to intimidate witnesses and report on their actions. (9/11 Commission Memo, Oct. 2003)

  • Whitehouse refuses to release 900 page congressional report describing how the attacks happened. (Miami Herald, May 2003)

  • 9/11 Commission does not receive requested interrogation tapes of detainees. (NY Times, Dec. 2007)

  • Interrogation tapes are destroyed (ABC News, Dec. 2007)

  • Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, chair and vice chair wrote an Oped piece in the NY Times stating the committee was stonewalled by the CIA and the investigation was obstructed government official failed to fully inform a lawfully constituted body. (NY Times, Jan. 2008)

  • Commissioner Max Cleland stated his displeasure with the committee making deals in regards to the documents they could view. He also stated the Bush administration attempted to slow walk the commission into irrelevancy. (Salon, Nov. 2003)

  • Committee member Tim Roemer stated "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting," Roemer told CNN. "We were not sure of the intent, whether it was to deceive the commission or merely part of the fumbling bureaucracy." (CNN, Aug. 2006)

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Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on September 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Shini 27
@22:

And sometimes those memorials are the only way for the local government to sit up and pay attention when a complaint about an especially (and often unnecessarily dangerous) part of the road had fallen on deaf ears.

In one of the towns I grew up in, they had a very busy intersection where a couple of different neighborhoods connect - no stop signs, no lights, no 'children are ahead, slow down you stupid fucker' sign. Not to mention the giant bushes and trees that grew up so visible is bad. Car wrecks there have been bad, but city council been ignoring it until someone had an idea of putting a memorial on the side of the roads for every person that had ever been killed there.

Three weeks later, they started to place in signs and pull up the bushes.
Posted by Shini on September 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 28
As is usual, Will @ 23 doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Pearl Harbor: 2,402 dead.
WTC: 3,017 dead.

Will, don't you get tired of being such a fucking dumbass?
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on September 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM

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