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News & ArtsWednesday, September 29, 2010
Homo My Gaydar Is Pinging
Posted by Dan Savage on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM
How about yours?
And I'm talking about the douche on the right.
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Gonging is more like it. As I was watching last night, I just couldn't stop chuckling through the whole interview.
Think somebody got turned down for a date?
Think somebody got turned down for a date?
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It's not just my gaydar, but my Aspergersdar and stalkerdar. How long can this sick twist keep his job?
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here's his blog:
http://chris-armstrong-watch.blogspot.co…
This guy is apparently obsessed with this poor kid.
http://chris-armstrong-watch.blogspot.co…
This guy is apparently obsessed with this poor kid.
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Oh wow. Yes. Douchebag is gay. And in love with Chris. And heading for disbarment. Seriously. This interview will end his career at the Attorney General's office.
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Pinging? Mine went off the scale.
Shirvell should get a girlfriend and a real life and keep himself busy... but I kinda doubt that will ever happen. We'll no doubt read about him at some point in the future being arrested at a highway rest stop with a big old c*ck in his mouth.
Shirvell should get a girlfriend and a real life and keep himself busy... but I kinda doubt that will ever happen. We'll no doubt read about him at some point in the future being arrested at a highway rest stop with a big old c*ck in his mouth.
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@bernie...I certainly hope so, and it's not that he's arrested for stalking and eventually killing this poor college student.
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And this isn't the first time that young Mr Shirvell has raged against the homosexualists. Here is an item from 2005 when he had his panties all in a bunch over a rainbow sticker at a local pizza joint.
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/200…
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/200…
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This douche is trying to get fired so the chrsitianists can claim his constitutional rights are being violated by the gays.
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@5 Mike Cox, the Michigan AG, was a major force behind Michigan's anti-gay marriage amendment. The AG, who has admitted to having an affair, believes that the measure would "protect" marriage.
The AG's office has said, ""Mr. Shirvell's personal opinions are his and his alone and do not reflect the views of the Michigan Department of Attorney General," Cox said in the written statement provided by his office to CNN's "AC 360" Tuesday night. "But his immaturity and lack of judgment outside the office are clear."
What I don't get is how they know he hasn't been posting and or updating his blog on the taxpayer dime at work. Was there an investigation? If so, couldn't some journalist pull a FOIA request to see the documents of such an investigation? Why is the media buying the story that this douchbag is really doing all this on his own time?
The AG's office has said, ""Mr. Shirvell's personal opinions are his and his alone and do not reflect the views of the Michigan Department of Attorney General," Cox said in the written statement provided by his office to CNN's "AC 360" Tuesday night. "But his immaturity and lack of judgment outside the office are clear."
What I don't get is how they know he hasn't been posting and or updating his blog on the taxpayer dime at work. Was there an investigation? If so, couldn't some journalist pull a FOIA request to see the documents of such an investigation? Why is the media buying the story that this douchbag is really doing all this on his own time?
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"I sense a lot of anger in your, ah, voice ah, Anderson and ah, I don't know where it's coming ah from"
Really? You're that thick? Huge douche.
Really? You're that thick? Huge douche.
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AHAHAHAHAHA. "We're quibbling over tactics, we're not quibbling over substance."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry...this on the heels of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfAqarG8l… makes this the best AC week ever.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry...this on the heels of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfAqarG8l… makes this the best AC week ever.
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If he's gay, he's the creepiest gay I've ever seen or heard of. Maybe talking to the Silver Fox will loosen his sphincter enough so he can enjoy the experience of Hate fucking the common sense and decency out of his sorry ass.
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Headline torn from his blog post:
"Arrogance on Display: Armstrong & Fellow ‘Gay’ Activists Repeatedly Show TOTAL Disrespect for Law Enforcement"
Now repeat that in the voice you heard in the interview. My gaydar just burst into flames. Very pretty, rainbow-colored flames.
I think we need to understand that these closet cases are another side of the High School issue the It Gets Better Project is trying to help. They hate us because they hate themselves, and they hate themselves because nobody's ever loved them for who they are. They're hidden so far behind their mask, hurt so deep, that it will take a great deal of love and support to heal them.
To the A.A.G. in the video: Come out, sir. Please. In Dan's own words: It gets better.
"Arrogance on Display: Armstrong & Fellow ‘Gay’ Activists Repeatedly Show TOTAL Disrespect for Law Enforcement"
Now repeat that in the voice you heard in the interview. My gaydar just burst into flames. Very pretty, rainbow-colored flames.
I think we need to understand that these closet cases are another side of the High School issue the It Gets Better Project is trying to help. They hate us because they hate themselves, and they hate themselves because nobody's ever loved them for who they are. They're hidden so far behind their mask, hurt so deep, that it will take a great deal of love and support to heal them.
To the A.A.G. in the video: Come out, sir. Please. In Dan's own words: It gets better.
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Anderson got it right, he's obsessed with this young man. I'd be seriously concerned for the safety of his victim, he really strikes me as the "if I can't have you no one will" sort. Someone unhinged enough to do something like this from the position he's in is obviously not stable and is likely to be a danger to others.
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Well, Dan, it appears some Christians have another take on the guy, calling him "brawny" with "expressive eyes." From Christwire:
"Andrew Leo Shirvell is a hero’s hero, a brawny and ambitious man with expressive eyes and the buzz cut of someone who relishes military precision. Exemplifying the true rewards for love of God and Country, this compassionate Christian went from being a humble student at the University of Michigan to a widely respected graduate of the Ave Maria School of Law in Naples, Florida to his current job as Deputy Attorney General for the great state of Michigan."
I call gaydar on Christwire.
"Andrew Leo Shirvell is a hero’s hero, a brawny and ambitious man with expressive eyes and the buzz cut of someone who relishes military precision. Exemplifying the true rewards for love of God and Country, this compassionate Christian went from being a humble student at the University of Michigan to a widely respected graduate of the Ave Maria School of Law in Naples, Florida to his current job as Deputy Attorney General for the great state of Michigan."
I call gaydar on Christwire.
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I was thinking the same thing. Then, I immediately opened SLOG to see if Dan has covered it yet :)
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@7 Yes, yes he is. Hopefully this will go viral. May his trial in the court of public opinion be swift and fierce!
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@22, you are I hope aware that Christwire is satire? Very clever satire, but satire nonetheless. If not I'm afraid you've fallen victim to Poe's Law:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ne…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ne…
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I'm with 5, this guy is going to lose his job any minute. he's stalking a college kid and works for the state's attorney general's office?!
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too all that think he is going to lose his job.... look at his hate blog and see how long he has been attacking/stalking this kid. If he wasn't fired yet...no way he will be.
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@31 -- I'm as dumbfounded as you. Why hasn't this idiot been dismissed or suspended? You can't represent the law and be involved in vituperative shenanigans such as these...
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"I don't have any hate in my body at all" !!!
So where does he keep it, in his closet?
Gotta bring the gaydar to the shop, it just exploded.
So where does he keep it, in his closet?
Gotta bring the gaydar to the shop, it just exploded.
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LOL - Hell hath no fury like a Christian woman scorned, right? What a bitter, lonely queen. Shivell calls himself "Christian" yet he scrawls "Nazi" on the guys picture? Get some help you sick motherfucker. Me thinks his real name must be "Shrivel" - describing his teeny weeny.
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This is what bigots do. This is what the folks who want to keep the "Yes on R71" petition signers secret say LGBT people will do if that information is made public. Considering no LGBT person has ever gone to this length to harrass even the known proponents of that intiative, it shows just who the bigots really are.
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Michigan Assistant Attorney General Andrew Shirvell totally sounds like a jilted lover ......
They will know we are christians by the way we stalk people in a town ......... an hour and 15 minutes drive away from our own town (Lansing to Ann Arbor).
Chris Armstrong needs a restraining order and security detail.
They will know we are christians by the way we stalk people in a town ......... an hour and 15 minutes drive away from our own town (Lansing to Ann Arbor).
Chris Armstrong needs a restraining order and security detail.
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In regards to First Amendment Rights - when exactly does "Free Speech" become harassment ? Because this self hating, closet case works for the State, he's entitled to "say" what he wants without repercussions from the state. But it seems to me that this isn't simply free speech anymore. it's bullying, intimidation, harassment - and those are NOT First Amendment Rights.
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Just did some quick research... Freedom of Speech STOPS at the infringement of others rights. For example - if you commit liable, slander, defamation of character, you are infringing on other's rights, which CLEARLY by calling him a "Nazi" and "Satans" whatever, Shivell has done. Therefore Shivell needs to be fired immediately.
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What really gets me --because I've read so much of his website because I'm apparently a masochist of the not-fun variety - is the section where he talks about Chris Armstrong removing posts on his Facebook profiles about "gay orgies" in the dorms, which were obviously* jokes. The problem with this guy is that if he ever came out of the closet, he'd probably end up being disappointed because even the most demented, debauched of us (I'm including myself in this, so feel no qualms speaking for the group) couldn't keep up with his active fantasy life.
* -- Okay so maybe it's not 100% certain that those were jokes. But I'd bet the possibility of me stumbling on a gay twenty-something college dorm orgy on it. (The possibility is not much, but even as low as it is, its value in my portfolio, especially compared to the rest of my net worth, is quite high.)
* -- Okay so maybe it's not 100% certain that those were jokes. But I'd bet the possibility of me stumbling on a gay twenty-something college dorm orgy on it. (The possibility is not much, but even as low as it is, its value in my portfolio, especially compared to the rest of my net worth, is quite high.)
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@2 Yes.
Besides thinking he was gay, I kept thinking of ChrisChan, this autistic dude who is a sort of meme on the internets (who also happens to be a homophobe, coincidentally).
His Asperger's makes it so he can't even understand how people can see through his explanations (that they believe he has other motivations) or why they would think his behavior is creepy or inappropriate.
Besides thinking he was gay, I kept thinking of ChrisChan, this autistic dude who is a sort of meme on the internets (who also happens to be a homophobe, coincidentally).
His Asperger's makes it so he can't even understand how people can see through his explanations (that they believe he has other motivations) or why they would think his behavior is creepy or inappropriate.
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Even if he doesn't lose his job, why hasn't his immediate superior told him to cease and desist because he's making the AG's office look like a bunch of fucking looney tunes? Even if in their hearts they are all bigots there, they can't want to come across that way. Can they?
My heart hurts for Chris Armstrong to have to put up with this constant harassment. I hope he has a strong support network.
My heart hurts for Chris Armstrong to have to put up with this constant harassment. I hope he has a strong support network.
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Closet case with a load of self-hatred in one pocket and the load of the guy he just blew in his cheek pockets. Not very mature of me, but then again, it's not like I picketed his house.
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What IS it with all the crazies lately? Is it just me, or did the volume get turned way up in the last few years?
Maybe I'm becoming an old fart bemoaning how things used to be back in my day, but it seems as if there used to be at least *slightly* more of a public filter on crazy and mean, though there was still plenty of both in less public discourse.
Whappen?? In my dim memory, at least, it does seem as if people used to feel some minor level of *shame* to talk like this. Even my really whacknut grandmother had a clue that she might be judged harshly for talking crazy, and would cringe a bit when she said the evil crap she really thought.
Now nobody cringes. It's like they feel they have permission, and it's okay to be a raging psycho in public.
They're trying to infect us with their whacko agenda, spreading their filthy lifestyle, making it seem "normal."
Maybe I'm becoming an old fart bemoaning how things used to be back in my day, but it seems as if there used to be at least *slightly* more of a public filter on crazy and mean, though there was still plenty of both in less public discourse.
Whappen?? In my dim memory, at least, it does seem as if people used to feel some minor level of *shame* to talk like this. Even my really whacknut grandmother had a clue that she might be judged harshly for talking crazy, and would cringe a bit when she said the evil crap she really thought.
Now nobody cringes. It's like they feel they have permission, and it's okay to be a raging psycho in public.
They're trying to infect us with their whacko agenda, spreading their filthy lifestyle, making it seem "normal."
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This guy is a poor, self-hating smuck who is so obviously in love with Chris. I feel sorry for both of them. Unfortunately for the sick one, he needs to be fired and put into treatment ASAP. It's so sad.
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Wow ... just wow. So much is horribly wrong with that guy. Yes, he deserves to be fired. Can you imagine if a Democratic AAG went on this kind of rampage against the leader of a Christian student group? Even if it was "off the clock", this asshole & his ilk would be having puppies.
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Maybe covering all these bullying stories will finally convince Cooper of the importance of coming out himself?
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@48
I think everybody knows already, and he knows everybody knows. He doesn't seem like much the People magazine "I'M GAY" type of a guy to out and announce it.
I think everybody knows already, and he knows everybody knows. He doesn't seem like much the People magazine "I'M GAY" type of a guy to out and announce it.
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All twitches from gaydar aside, you just gotta love this jackhole's "All's fair in love and U of Mich. student council elections" stance, doncha?
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Yeah, my gaydar just went full tilt and hit JACKPOT. This guy is a total loser and my guess is he's been turned down many times by many men.
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Holy fuck. That doofus is an assistant AG? He comes off like Peewee Herman on Valium. Jesus.
I love how Anderson Cooper cites the definitions of "bigot" and "cyber bully." ("That's the definition [of cyber bully] and it seems to apply to you.")
"You're a grown adult. Does that seem appropriate to you?"
"It appears that you're obsessed with this young gay man."
I like Anderson Cooper even more after seeing that.
Oh, and gay? Without question.
I love how Anderson Cooper cites the definitions of "bigot" and "cyber bully." ("That's the definition [of cyber bully] and it seems to apply to you.")
"You're a grown adult. Does that seem appropriate to you?"
"It appears that you're obsessed with this young gay man."
I like Anderson Cooper even more after seeing that.
Oh, and gay? Without question.
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Michigan AG email is: miag@michigan.gov
Seems like they should hear from some people who would rather the assistant AG not be a hateful-obsessed piece of shit.
Seems like they should hear from some people who would rather the assistant AG not be a hateful-obsessed piece of shit.
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@50 Rufus Wainwright's theory is to watch the money-and-fame curve. Coop's still pulling in CNN money and high profile, see.
Rufus theory would suggest that once Coop gets canceled, the cost/benefits balance will shift on him, he'll realize the timing is right, have a fun society wedding with his BF and (while Rufus arches an eyebrow) be embraced as an icon of bravery.
Rufus theory would suggest that once Coop gets canceled, the cost/benefits balance will shift on him, he'll realize the timing is right, have a fun society wedding with his BF and (while Rufus arches an eyebrow) be embraced as an icon of bravery.
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Sending an e-mail to the Michian AG's office now. It would probably come off better from someone who lived in-sate, though.
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That he just doesn't see at all how his behavior is inappropriate is really scary. This guy works for the state? And what he's getting all worked up about-mixed gender housing, isn't decided by the student council anyway. They can make recommendations but that's all. I'd call borderline personality disorder-bad boundaries, obsessive behaviors, over reacting to trivial issues...the very least this man needs is better medication.
And a padded room so he can't hurt anybody.
And a padded room so he can't hurt anybody.
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Having Paul Lynde with a neckerchief and a Cosmo in one hand and the other hand fisting a drag queen in the background would butch this guy up.
...I'm saying he's gayer than Sunday brunch.
...I'm saying he's gayer than Sunday brunch.
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If he's against mixed-gender housing, that means he wants boys to remain with boys and girls with girls, right?
Now what does that tell us?
Now what does that tell us?
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Can you please do for "shirvell" what you did for "santorum"? Let's try to figure out what shirvelling would be :)
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We could say that a victim of cyberbullying and cyberstalking is "under shirvellance".
What an awful pun. Even I am amazed.
What an awful pun. Even I am amazed.
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"It appears, though, you're obsessed with this young, gay man." Bwah ha ha ha! But funny aside this closet case seems like a frighteningly disturbed, quite possibly dangerous freak.
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Brunch is totally gay. I've had way more mini-muffins and melon balls than lox & bagels while out at brunch. And smoked salmon benedict doesn't count!
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you totally called it, BakerB. a VERY severe case of borderline personality disorder. and projection. i don't see asperger's at all.
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I really wish this guy allowed comments on his blog. I want to tell him myself that there's better ways to handle his unrequited love.
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"What we're talking about is anybody - any man or woman - wanting to choose to live together. That's a radical redefinition of gender norms."
Yes, it's a radical redefinition of gender norms... that happened in the 1960's.
Dude, you're supposed to double-check the flux capacitor before you start the DeLorean.
Yes, it's a radical redefinition of gender norms... that happened in the 1960's.
Dude, you're supposed to double-check the flux capacitor before you start the DeLorean.
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I love how Christian bigots say things like, "I have no hate in my body" or "I love everyone." I guess Jesus makes you incapable of honest self-reflection.
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LOOK AT HIS EYES.
Seriously, they're ping-ponging all over the place. Yeah, you could tell he was a closet case from the first syllable he uttered, but jesus: that's just the start of this guy's problems.
(Also: I swear to god he's Buster Bluth.)
Seriously, they're ping-ponging all over the place. Yeah, you could tell he was a closet case from the first syllable he uttered, but jesus: that's just the start of this guy's problems.
(Also: I swear to god he's Buster Bluth.)
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"I'm not the only first person. . . Anderson!"
gay? um. . . sure, but he also sounds. . . um. . . "leotarded." and crazy. He sounds crazy.
How'd this douche end-up as assistant AG? I mean really. . . Anderson!
gay? um. . . sure, but he also sounds. . . um. . . "leotarded." and crazy. He sounds crazy.
How'd this douche end-up as assistant AG? I mean really. . . Anderson!
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What we're talking about is anybody - any man or woman - wanting to choose to live together. That's a radical redefinition of gender norms.
Shirvell really needs to work on his material if he's ever going to make it in stand-up. Honestly, this same topic was already done by George Burns, who said it much better: "In my day people got married and had kids. Now they live together, have kids, and if the kids turn out all right then they get married."
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So, how do we send email to Mike Cox? I want this guy's state funded salary to end. I suspect Shirvell's appreciation of external opinion is stunted. But his boss may not be so immune to the fact that Shirvell is bringing very negative publicity to his department.
Why would you continue to allow someone you think has "bad judgment and immaturity" to work for you in the Attorney General's office anyway? That's a nice statement to the world right there. "We actually just sit around cyber-stalking college kids between cases. Thanks for the tax dollars."
Why would you continue to allow someone you think has "bad judgment and immaturity" to work for you in the Attorney General's office anyway? That's a nice statement to the world right there. "We actually just sit around cyber-stalking college kids between cases. Thanks for the tax dollars."
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You know, my kid has Asperger's, and has been bullied horribly for years by assholes like some of you guys. He's compassionate and empathetic and sensitive. He was suicidal for a while. He now has a great group of friends, all interesting, some gay, some straight, some mixed race. And we watched the clip on CNN and he was horrified by this guy. So, fuck off about the Asperger's, it has nothing to do with this guy's stalking behavior. Schmader, you're a total asshole for starting it, too.
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Dan, you have to call this fuckwad scumbag out on your Podcast. This isn't just some generic asshole talking about the "radical gay agenda" and promoting the "traditional" hetero lifestyle, blah blah blah, this is a man using his political weight and power to bully a college student. A fucking college student. Are you kidding me? This is reprehensible to the extreme. Call him out. And email Attorney General Michael Cox at miag @ michigan.gov to tell him to fire the bastard.
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Patti @82: I don't think anyone on the blog was saying Asperger's made the guy a stalker. I think instead they were saying, (i) he's a stalker (ii) he's gay, and, (iii) a separate issue, he is sufficiently neuro-atypical -- yeah maybe Asperger's, but probably something else -- that he lacks the self-awareness to know how abundantly transparent traits (i) and (ii) are to anyone who communicates with him. Whatever his neuro-issue is, it's actually a good thing because it makes him much less effective as a stalker. Good stalking requires the ability to effectively dissemble. My favorite part is when he goes on the "I sense anger" jag. You just know that some figure in his sad past, some would-be helping figure, a parent, a guidance counselor, a therapist, used that line on him, and now it's something he says when he's desparately trying to sound like a responsible grown-up.
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@81 - You could try the Facebook route, which seems to be especially popular the last couple of nights: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Mike-Co…
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@84:
@2 "It's not just my gaydar, but my Aspergersdar and stalkerdar."
@18 "Dude has Ass Burgers syndrome for sure :-) "
@19 "I second @2. He seems a little slow… and obsessed."
Nice.
@2 "It's not just my gaydar, but my Aspergersdar and stalkerdar."
@18 "Dude has Ass Burgers syndrome for sure :-) "
@19 "I second @2. He seems a little slow… and obsessed."
Nice.
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@87, your comment about what @2 said seems to only reinforce what @84 said. that people are commenting on three issues. he seems gay, he is a stalker, and he seems like he might be an aspie, 'cause his obliviousness is off the neurotypical charts.
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patti, I'm gonna be this thread's (self-diagnosed and self-appointed) aspie. I wasn't offended much by the comments that this obsessed weirdo might be a bit autistic. I don't know that it's fair to call David Schmader, gregus, and mitten "assholes" like the people who treated your son badly. They may just be trying to understand, and they seem much closer to the mark than other commenters calling him a "psychopath" or "retarded".
He doesn't seem stupid, and it doesn't seem like he doesn't care what people think, it's just that he thinks that what he's doing is positive and reasonable. I feel a strange affinity with him.
I'll tell you what I thought (and said to my mother) when I saw this jerk: "That could be me saying those things, if only I believed the things he does."
He doesn't seem stupid, and it doesn't seem like he doesn't care what people think, it's just that he thinks that what he's doing is positive and reasonable. I feel a strange affinity with him.
I'll tell you what I thought (and said to my mother) when I saw this jerk: "That could be me saying those things, if only I believed the things he does."
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Misha, I don't think one Aspie can speak for every Aspie's experience, or for me, just like one gay person can't speak for everyone's gay experience. I'm glad you weren't offended by the comments, but I was, and my son was.
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I'm late to this party, but it's still ripe! What. The. Fuck? How is there not a ceaseless barrage of phone calls to the Michigan A.G.'s office to get this guy out? No, you can't be fired for being a shithead on your own time, but certainly there must be something done about public servants behaving like this. He's clearly not fit for public service. This is disgusting.
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It appears that Mr. Shirvell is taking some "personal leave"...
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/10/01/mich…
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It appears that Mr. Shirvell is taking some "personal leave"...
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/10/01/mich…
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"I'm glad you weren't offended by the comments, but I was, and my son was."
Well, big whoop. You probably offended people by calling them assholes for simply observing in this man what they think might be a touch of the autism.
What do you think you heard that was so offensive? Let's use an analogy.
It shouldn't be offensive to vegetarians to say that HItler was a vegetarian (though he wasn't, apparantly), unless they claim that not eating meat was the cause of the holocaust. And until someone claims that this guy's behavior and intolerance of homosexuals was CAUSED by his (possible) slight autism, I don't think you should be offended either.
I think you assumed the worst in those comments that offended you.
Well, big whoop. You probably offended people by calling them assholes for simply observing in this man what they think might be a touch of the autism.
What do you think you heard that was so offensive? Let's use an analogy.
It shouldn't be offensive to vegetarians to say that HItler was a vegetarian (though he wasn't, apparantly), unless they claim that not eating meat was the cause of the holocaust. And until someone claims that this guy's behavior and intolerance of homosexuals was CAUSED by his (possible) slight autism, I don't think you should be offended either.
I think you assumed the worst in those comments that offended you.
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Because this guy is so ridiculous to anyone who sees him talking, he is less of a threat than someone with more ability to assess how they might be perceived.
I find it astounding that this video is real, and not some comedy skit. Really!
The most fascinating thing this video holds for me is to show just how smart and educated a person can come off whilst defending the most absurd of positions, because if there are people like him out there (extreme nut jobs who are also Lawyers), then there are likely many more.
If there are people like him, then there are probably many more with more subtle variations on whatever condition he has, and it is those people who will do more damage, because they might not be detected as readily, but they will be very articulate, and they will be as capable as him in getting positions of power like Lawyers. This fool is pretty harmless. but the fact someone like him exists and is a lawyer, is kind of chilling.
I find it astounding that this video is real, and not some comedy skit. Really!
The most fascinating thing this video holds for me is to show just how smart and educated a person can come off whilst defending the most absurd of positions, because if there are people like him out there (extreme nut jobs who are also Lawyers), then there are likely many more.
If there are people like him, then there are probably many more with more subtle variations on whatever condition he has, and it is those people who will do more damage, because they might not be detected as readily, but they will be very articulate, and they will be as capable as him in getting positions of power like Lawyers. This fool is pretty harmless. but the fact someone like him exists and is a lawyer, is kind of chilling.
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wow, reverse this to have some outed gay man harassing some closed "straight" retrograde college student. Dude would be fired so fast.
Shit is so fucked.
Shit is so fucked.
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Consider the reverse: some out gay state law enforcement officer harassing some homophobe (closeted perhaps) undergrad. Dude would be fired immediately, the shit would be all over the news.
Shit is so fucked.
Shit is so fucked.
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Cox isn't firing him because Shirvell has something on him. They've been buddies for years. Seriously. And I think Cox is scared of something Shirvell knows or maybe they had a tryst or something. I totally see this ending as a big gay scandal.
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Patti @ 84 "My favorite part is when he goes on the "I sense anger" jag. You just know that some figure in his sad past, some would-be helping figure, a parent, a guidance counselor, a therapist, used that line on him, and now it's something he says when he's desparately trying to sound like a responsible grown-up."
I think you've nailed it.
I think you've nailed it.
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Yup. Took all of 10 seconds.
I kind of feel sorry for him--this is what closets--and the church--does to people.
I kind of feel sorry for him--this is what closets--and the church--does to people.
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Wow, what an inarticulate moron. None of his answers even come close to a) answering Cooper's questions, or b) resembling any kind of logic.
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