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News & ArtsThursday, October 14, 2010
Homo FCKH8
Posted by Dan Savage on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:34 PM
Love it:
'And hey there, Luke, it's been a while.
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Love the attitude, love the message, etc., but the point is to reassure Mr. and Mrs. Statistical Average that gays are, in fact, just like them in most respects.
So kids cussing?
Wow what a dumb move.
So kids cussing?
Wow what a dumb move.
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Wow, took twelve comments before the hand-wringing concern trolls showed up.
Obviously the vid's not offensive enough.
Obviously the vid's not offensive enough.
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When I saw this yesterday I sent it to everyone I know (and Dan, too). I just showed it to my teenage daughter and she said, "I want one of those shirts." I told her that I had gotten one for her, for me, and for her 11-year-old sister--our new loungewear.
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I went to their website store and requested that they make car magnets.
I want one of each. Some Dudes and Some Chicks.
And drive proud!
I want one of each. Some Dudes and Some Chicks.
And drive proud!
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@18 - Same here, I'd buy some of the Some Chicks and Some Dudes for myself and to pass along to friends - those were awesome.
Cool vid.
Cool vid.
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Luke Sissyfag (Montgomery) has been doing some amazing work in Hati setting up orphanages for earthquake survivors
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@12, besides the kids there are transwomen (or drag queens? Sorry if I'm making some trans faux pas) as well as two guys making out and two women making out.
The upshot? This shit isn't made to convince John and Jane Doe. That's not the friggen idea. This is made to excite and entertain those of us already on the equality bus. I love the soft-focus we-are-so-normal-it-hurts equality ads as much as the next ally, but damn if it doesn't feel good to see "you think gay marriage is offensive, well watch THIS". It's a pep-talk, something to get us into the fighting spirit. After reading about Mr. Fierce Advocate (against equality) all day, I really could use a pick-me-up.
The upshot? This shit isn't made to convince John and Jane Doe. That's not the friggen idea. This is made to excite and entertain those of us already on the equality bus. I love the soft-focus we-are-so-normal-it-hurts equality ads as much as the next ally, but damn if it doesn't feel good to see "you think gay marriage is offensive, well watch THIS". It's a pep-talk, something to get us into the fighting spirit. After reading about Mr. Fierce Advocate (against equality) all day, I really could use a pick-me-up.
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Well, since all homosexuals are, you know, self-hating, suicidal freaks, it makes SENSE that they'd use those naughty words.
Someone needs to get a link to this in the comments for that fuckwad's hateful Washington Post article the other day. Anyone? I refuse to get an account on that site.
Someone needs to get a link to this in the comments for that fuckwad's hateful Washington Post article the other day. Anyone? I refuse to get an account on that site.
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what @12 said.
you girls need to pick a lane and quit weaving.
are homosexual "normal" and harmless and just like everyone else so what's the harm of letting them marry and raise kids?
if so crude rude in-your-face and children throwing the F bomb is a poor strategy.
or is this the true colour of the homosexual lifestyle?
F this and F that and especially
F you, Real America and F what you think?
feel good to get it off your chest?
cum on girls, shout it with us....
FUCK YOU, REAL AMERICA!
FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!
WE DON"T GIVE A FUCKING SHIT!!!!
wasn't that fun?!
Guess what.
The F bomb can go both ways.
Fuck your perverted deviant behavior.
Fuck your perversion of marriage.
Fuck your disgusting deviant "orientation".
Fuck your distorted warped counterfeit "family".
You haven't fooled anyone.
You will never get from us what you so cravenly want.
Validation.
We both know what you do is perverted and twisted.
You know it better than us.
You can't hide it.
The weaker among you can't keep up the facade.
It makes Dan feel better to blame Christians for what eats homosexuals up from the inside.
But the facts wither and disintegrate his lie.
You can't find peace within.
You'll never find peace within.
People at peace with themselves and their choices don't need validation from others.
But you do.
Boy do you ever.
You think if you can force us to say it is normal maybe even YOU can believe it.
But you know it isn't. Normal.
And we know it.
Change the laws.
Pervert marriage to suit your deviant behavior.
Brainwash the rising generation.
It won't bring you peace.
Only more fellow tortured souls.
cum on girls-
shout it with us-
this time with FEELING....
FUCK YOU, REAL AMERICA!
FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!
WE DON"T GIVE A FUCKING SHIT!!!!
If you say it loud and often
maybe you'll even start to believe it.
.
no.
not really......
More...
you girls need to pick a lane and quit weaving.
are homosexual "normal" and harmless and just like everyone else so what's the harm of letting them marry and raise kids?
if so crude rude in-your-face and children throwing the F bomb is a poor strategy.
or is this the true colour of the homosexual lifestyle?
F this and F that and especially
F you, Real America and F what you think?
feel good to get it off your chest?
cum on girls, shout it with us....
FUCK YOU, REAL AMERICA!
FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!
WE DON"T GIVE A FUCKING SHIT!!!!
wasn't that fun?!
Guess what.
The F bomb can go both ways.
Fuck your perverted deviant behavior.
Fuck your perversion of marriage.
Fuck your disgusting deviant "orientation".
Fuck your distorted warped counterfeit "family".
You haven't fooled anyone.
You will never get from us what you so cravenly want.
Validation.
We both know what you do is perverted and twisted.
You know it better than us.
You can't hide it.
The weaker among you can't keep up the facade.
It makes Dan feel better to blame Christians for what eats homosexuals up from the inside.
But the facts wither and disintegrate his lie.
You can't find peace within.
You'll never find peace within.
People at peace with themselves and their choices don't need validation from others.
But you do.
Boy do you ever.
You think if you can force us to say it is normal maybe even YOU can believe it.
But you know it isn't. Normal.
And we know it.
Change the laws.
Pervert marriage to suit your deviant behavior.
Brainwash the rising generation.
It won't bring you peace.
Only more fellow tortured souls.
cum on girls-
shout it with us-
this time with FEELING....
FUCK YOU, REAL AMERICA!
FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!
WE DON"T GIVE A FUCKING SHIT!!!!
If you say it loud and often
maybe you'll even start to believe it.
.
no.
not really......
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oh, and the shock value of homosexual kissing?
it's so gone.
it's like a second grader eating his boogers.
gross.
but pretty much what you'd expect.
from a second grader.
Shocking?
Provocative?
no.
it's so gone.
it's like a second grader eating his boogers.
gross.
but pretty much what you'd expect.
from a second grader.
Shocking?
Provocative?
no.
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oh, one more thing.
stunts like this?
a big reason Obama keeps his distance.
and gets away with it.
"Love It!", Dan?
Love it so much you could marry it?
good.
cause you won't be marrying Terri anytime soon.
we don't think it's a very rational choice
but if you enjoy screaming FUCK YOU
more than strolling down the aisle go for it.
"Love It!", Dan?
sure you do.
you and the HomoRadical fringe of the Liberal 19% of America.
a fringe of 19% isn't much.
which is why even the Democraps can ignore you;
actually not 'ignore';
screw you over is more like it;
daily and with impunity.
cause when you get off on screaming FUCK YOU
you soon find everyone wants to return the favor.
Obama.
The Democraps.
Real America.
have you noticed that, Dan?
have you noticed that Obama and the Democraps daily invite you to FUCK OFF?
do you "Love It!"?
Did you notice the voters in 30 (or is it 40?...) states
each and everyone telling you to FUCK OFF?
do you "Love It!"?
sure you do.
(ps.
Obama would have explained it to you himself but Danny cancelled his Slog account.
Pussy.
You seem to really fear the debate, Danny.
Deep down you know it's all BullShit, don't you.
You can whip up a 3 day frenzy
from your brainless credulous fanboy InternetHateMachine
but like fish, all your causes start to stink after a few days.
after the facts come out.
"Sock Puppetry", Danny?
really?!?
do you really think your fans thought it was actually Obama?
are they THAT stupid?
or do you just fear the truth.
sure you do.
stunts like this?
a big reason Obama keeps his distance.
and gets away with it.
"Love It!", Dan?
Love it so much you could marry it?
good.
cause you won't be marrying Terri anytime soon.
we don't think it's a very rational choice
but if you enjoy screaming FUCK YOU
more than strolling down the aisle go for it.
"Love It!", Dan?
sure you do.
you and the HomoRadical fringe of the Liberal 19% of America.
a fringe of 19% isn't much.
which is why even the Democraps can ignore you;
actually not 'ignore';
screw you over is more like it;
daily and with impunity.
cause when you get off on screaming FUCK YOU
you soon find everyone wants to return the favor.
Obama.
The Democraps.
Real America.
have you noticed that, Dan?
have you noticed that Obama and the Democraps daily invite you to FUCK OFF?
do you "Love It!"?
Did you notice the voters in 30 (or is it 40?...) states
each and everyone telling you to FUCK OFF?
do you "Love It!"?
sure you do.
(ps.
Obama would have explained it to you himself but Danny cancelled his Slog account.
Pussy.
You seem to really fear the debate, Danny.
Deep down you know it's all BullShit, don't you.
You can whip up a 3 day frenzy
from your brainless credulous fanboy InternetHateMachine
but like fish, all your causes start to stink after a few days.
after the facts come out.
"Sock Puppetry", Danny?
really?!?
do you really think your fans thought it was actually Obama?
are they THAT stupid?
or do you just fear the truth.
sure you do.
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@32 My thoughts exactly. I bet that's where swearing came from in the first place!
Does anyone know who the "straight" guy in drag is (apologies if he's well known, I haven't wacthed anything but True Blood and Modern Family for about 5 years.) I love that finger waving, head-shaking thing he does.
Does anyone know who the "straight" guy in drag is (apologies if he's well known, I haven't wacthed anything but True Blood and Modern Family for about 5 years.) I love that finger waving, head-shaking thing he does.
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Thank Dog for the ability to ignore the unregistered posts...Jaysus Fucking Christ, this guy's got a lot of time on his hands...
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FCKH8 Bitches. That was awesome. I'm going to go share this right not. And I'm gonna get me one of those t-shirts.
Lots of love from Canada <3
Lots of love from Canada <3
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You guys can shit your pants about "hand-wringing" if you want, but all I'm pointing out is that this will get used against the LGBT movement. I know it wasn't produced for Mr. and Mrs. 2.4 children, but it will be shown to them.
Think about the airtime "Listen, it's just us, so I'm gonna tell you that Obama is a Marxist nigger"-type videos/emails/flyers get among the left.
As we speak, this email is being forwarded by more gay-bashers than gay-supporters. It's already been forwarded to me in a chain mail by relatives.
That's reality.
Think about the airtime "Listen, it's just us, so I'm gonna tell you that Obama is a Marxist nigger"-type videos/emails/flyers get among the left.
As we speak, this email is being forwarded by more gay-bashers than gay-supporters. It's already been forwarded to me in a chain mail by relatives.
That's reality.
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@ 41 - You mean to tell us that straight people don't use the word "fuck"? I learned it from them!
What you're really telling us is that we should be as hypocritical as they are. FUCK THAT!
What you're really telling us is that we should be as hypocritical as they are. FUCK THAT!
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It's really sad that I know this line by heart, but @41 reminds me of that part in Top Gun where the guy says to Maverick (did I just type that?) "Your family name isn't the best. You have to do it better and cleaner than the next guy." Is that how it is for LGBTs? They have to present a united, lilywhite facade so as not to offend Joe Fundie (who is banging his secretary when he can get time away from his Church duties)......got it.
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It has been my experience that individuals who want to get their panties in a twist will find reasons to wad up their panties. It has also been my experience that individuals who want to justify discriminating will grasp at straws to continue justifying their position. I would consider this video a piece of straw.
What I'm trying to say is that even with out the word "fuck" or kissing, individuals would have their panties in a twist over this. We can't open a closed mind. It has been my experience that there is only one thing that has the power to pull an individual on the fence about marriage equality, employment nondiscrimination, DADT, etc., down, and that is learning that someone they love is being discriminated against. Some individuals on the fence may regret the suffering of an LGBT person being denied access to their loved one in an emergency, but a moment of compassionate feelings doesn't move them to action. It is only when it is their loved one that is being denied, or bullied, that the need for justice becomes apparent. And, sadly, even then some weren't really on the fence at all, their minds have long been made up and they were trying to avoid the discussion or having you think badly of them the entire time. They will accept their love one being discriminated against or bullied in much the same way that they blame people for being poor as a result of their being lazy. A mind that is closed can only be opened from the inside.
For what it is worth I liked the video.
What I'm trying to say is that even with out the word "fuck" or kissing, individuals would have their panties in a twist over this. We can't open a closed mind. It has been my experience that there is only one thing that has the power to pull an individual on the fence about marriage equality, employment nondiscrimination, DADT, etc., down, and that is learning that someone they love is being discriminated against. Some individuals on the fence may regret the suffering of an LGBT person being denied access to their loved one in an emergency, but a moment of compassionate feelings doesn't move them to action. It is only when it is their loved one that is being denied, or bullied, that the need for justice becomes apparent. And, sadly, even then some weren't really on the fence at all, their minds have long been made up and they were trying to avoid the discussion or having you think badly of them the entire time. They will accept their love one being discriminated against or bullied in much the same way that they blame people for being poor as a result of their being lazy. A mind that is closed can only be opened from the inside.
For what it is worth I liked the video.
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Yes! This just made my day. I'm so sick of trying to coax people into doing what's right, only to have them turn around and peel away at the rights they had to be persuaded to grant when they realise the reality isn't as cushy as they expected. This is exactly the right approach. Get over it, haters!
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Ha, I had to Google Luke Montgomery. I was about ask what the hell was up with the random content personalization!
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Man some people are stupid. Maybe I should write a Simple English Wikipedia version of what I wrote.
I liked the video, too. But try to release your mind from the Manichean grip your black-and-white worldview has on it for a split second.
Look at what I'm saying: children cussing is going to feed the flames of hate. That's it. I'm not hating on the kissing or the cussing. I personally am not even hating on the kids cussing, which is provocative in a stale, predictable way, but still does the job of catching your attention.
But no matter what I say, people like canuck will just assume I'm a gay-bashing KKK member or something.
Isn't discussion fun?
I liked the video, too. But try to release your mind from the Manichean grip your black-and-white worldview has on it for a split second.
Look at what I'm saying: children cussing is going to feed the flames of hate. That's it. I'm not hating on the kissing or the cussing. I personally am not even hating on the kids cussing, which is provocative in a stale, predictable way, but still does the job of catching your attention.
But no matter what I say, people like canuck will just assume I'm a gay-bashing KKK member or something.
Isn't discussion fun?
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Maybe because your username is a Bible passage, 49.
Isn't it obvious that this video isn't aimed at changing anyone's mind? It's a fundraising video aimed at people who already support marriage equality and advertising the group and its website.
Isn't it obvious that this video isn't aimed at changing anyone's mind? It's a fundraising video aimed at people who already support marriage equality and advertising the group and its website.
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@49 Who's exaggerating now? ("people like canuck will just assume I'm a gay-bashing KKK member or something.")
No, I was responding to your idea that videos like this aren't a good idea, because they will be used against LGBTs by conservatives. The converse of that idea is that if this had been a heartfelt appeal by friends/family/children of LGBTs to please see the light, that this would have had a better chance of changing minds? THAT'S what I disagree with. As Kim said, minds open from the inside. All of the quiet, unassuming same-sex couples who have been profiled in marriage sections of papers, or on the news haven't shifted the ultra-right on this issue, so I doubt this video has burned any bridges, because that makes the assumption that there were bridges to burn.
Luke, if anything, you come across as Canadian on this issue. I say this as someone who loves Canada and Canadians, but they do try very hard not to offend people. While this makes for harmonious living most of the time, there are times when righteous indignation is called for, and that's when a little American "shout it out" is okay. IMHO.
No, I was responding to your idea that videos like this aren't a good idea, because they will be used against LGBTs by conservatives. The converse of that idea is that if this had been a heartfelt appeal by friends/family/children of LGBTs to please see the light, that this would have had a better chance of changing minds? THAT'S what I disagree with. As Kim said, minds open from the inside. All of the quiet, unassuming same-sex couples who have been profiled in marriage sections of papers, or on the news haven't shifted the ultra-right on this issue, so I doubt this video has burned any bridges, because that makes the assumption that there were bridges to burn.
Luke, if anything, you come across as Canadian on this issue. I say this as someone who loves Canada and Canadians, but they do try very hard not to offend people. While this makes for harmonious living most of the time, there are times when righteous indignation is called for, and that's when a little American "shout it out" is okay. IMHO.
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Dingo, You do realize that almost any combination [Evangelist name] + [Number between 11 and, what, 5000] will produce a Bible passage, right?
My point is that the children cussing part (only that part) will indeed burn one or two bridges. Will this video set gay rights back a decade? No. But it's not moving the discussion forward. That's all I said. Get called a hater for my trouble.
And by the way, I'm all for videos of gays kissing, probably the most provocative (in terms of thought and emotion) thing on-the-fence straights can see. I know it took me a while to get used to. Well, obviously, seeing chicks kiss wasn't that big a deal.
My point is that the children cussing part (only that part) will indeed burn one or two bridges. Will this video set gay rights back a decade? No. But it's not moving the discussion forward. That's all I said. Get called a hater for my trouble.
And by the way, I'm all for videos of gays kissing, probably the most provocative (in terms of thought and emotion) thing on-the-fence straights can see. I know it took me a while to get used to. Well, obviously, seeing chicks kiss wasn't that big a deal.
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Another excellent video, also used for anti bullying efforts:
http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010…
http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010…
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you asked for it luke-
putting the bible in your name and all;
everyone knows HomoLiberal Canuks (is that redundant?...) like Dungo hate the bible and especially hate god.
don't you know it is illegal in Canada to name your kid Matthew, Mark, Luke, john or Galatians?
(of course, god hates them back- that's why he put them in canada...)
putting the bible in your name and all;
everyone knows HomoLiberal Canuks (is that redundant?...) like Dungo hate the bible and especially hate god.
don't you know it is illegal in Canada to name your kid Matthew, Mark, Luke, john or Galatians?
(of course, god hates them back- that's why he put them in canada...)
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52: so you're saying you know your username could be construed as a Bible passage but... it isn't? How likely does that sound to you?
Look, this is a group called FUCKH8. Their very name will be offensive to some people, so it hardly matters whether their videos contain the word fuck.
Look, this is a group called FUCKH8. Their very name will be offensive to some people, so it hardly matters whether their videos contain the word fuck.
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It is now that everybody thinks it is. It wasn't when Yahoo picked it for me all those years ago.* But who gives a damn? I'm not religious. I'm not going to change my name because it was in the Bible. I'm not going to re-register on Slog because 1249 can be broken into 12 and 49.
That's as stupid as calling the thirteenth floor of a building the fourteenth.
*Unless Jeffrey Yang was a closet Bible-thumper and designed the system to give ... OMG I THINK I'M ONTO SOMETHING!
That's as stupid as calling the thirteenth floor of a building the fourteenth.
*Unless Jeffrey Yang was a closet Bible-thumper and designed the system to give ... OMG I THINK I'M ONTO SOMETHING!
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@ 51 - "you come across as Canadian on this issue. I say this as someone who loves Canada and Canadians, but they do try very hard not to offend people. While this makes for harmonious living most of the time, there are times when righteous indignation is called for, and that's when a little American "shout it out" is okay."
Perfect characterization and great conclusion. But... weren't you among those who thought I was too hard on Pam-the-mentor last week about the "satire" video? Well, that was me showing righteous indignation (ok, so my posts were more than a "little" shout it out, I'll admit). Perhaps Canada is rubbing off on you just a little bit LOL.
@ 45 - Kim, do you always have to be so absolutely perfectly right, fair and logical? You're giving me an inferiority complex :-) Nice to know there are people like you in this world.
Perfect characterization and great conclusion. But... weren't you among those who thought I was too hard on Pam-the-mentor last week about the "satire" video? Well, that was me showing righteous indignation (ok, so my posts were more than a "little" shout it out, I'll admit). Perhaps Canada is rubbing off on you just a little bit LOL.
@ 45 - Kim, do you always have to be so absolutely perfectly right, fair and logical? You're giving me an inferiority complex :-) Nice to know there are people like you in this world.
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@60 No, dear. I was reprimanded alongside you for our treatment of poor Pamela. Rowr, hear us roar, or something...!
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@62: I wanna fuck the actual straight dude and the chick in the tie. Yummmm, she is one sexy lesbian.
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Ricardo,
Thank you for your kind words. To be honest life has been teaching me that I know very little. So, I try to look at things from many sides. And, having spent a good portion of my life in a fundamentalist leaning, evangelical church I've learned/observed a thing or two.
Thank you for your kind words. To be honest life has been teaching me that I know very little. So, I try to look at things from many sides. And, having spent a good portion of my life in a fundamentalist leaning, evangelical church I've learned/observed a thing or two.
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I posted this to my facebook knowing my friends would love it as much as I did... and then remembered that my father's rightwing nutjob evangelical family has me friended on facebook, for reasons passing my understanding (they spend a significant portion of their time pretending I don't exist). I almost deleted the link, out of "respect" for their "values", even though they don't respect mine. And then I remembered that among the rightwing nutjobs on that side of the family who have me friended are my 15 and 18 year old cousins. The 18 year old just shipped off to a state university this year. It's still Alabama, but she's being openly exposed to *actual* LGBT people and *actual* non-christians for the first time in her life, myself excluded. So, my link to the video's still up. There's little hope for my dad's generation of the family - the branch is pretty well rotten, shall we say - but maybe those two girls can learn to say "fuck hate" instead of "my friend, well, she's a [n-word] but a *good* one," and "that guy over there is a [f-word]." (to which I usually respond, "well, I walk like a drunk [yay cerebral palsy!] so what do you call *me*?" and they get embarrassed and thoughtful. Progress is slow with the early-indoctrinated.)
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Oh wow. Don't you believe spewing hate towards Christians/Republicans is very similar to the hate some of them spew at gays? Have we not learned as adults that two wrongs do not make a right? This may raise support for the cause- for people who are already for it-but it will only sadden and hurt those who do not believe there should be equality. This video creates an even bigger gap for those people. Bad, bad move.
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@68 Oh, pointless punctuation poster, it wouldn't have mattered what the protesters were saying, or who they were, some people (dare I say, the sort of people who would attend a rally like this) would think it was blasphemous to interrupt the president, or to cause him any embarrassment. The protesters could have been saying "lower infant mortality rates!" and they would have been booed. It was the action (protest) not the people doing it that made the rally goers uncomfortable. Perhaps you'd be wise to stick to things you know, like....okay, it's just way too early in the morning for me to think back over your comments and try to find something you've ever sounded intelligent about.
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so you still think Obama is your friend?
how special.
you probably get the shit beat out of you daily by your partner and blame yourself, too....
so you still think Obama is your friend?
how special.
you probably get the shit beat out of you daily by your partner and blame yourself, too....
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@73:
you can Capitalize your ravings as Oddly as you want.
but it is still Just
dogshit wrapped in Propaganda.
you can Capitalize your ravings as Oddly as you want.
but it is still Just
dogshit wrapped in Propaganda.
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So, who exactly is profiting off of this? Where is the money from the t-shirt sales going? The HRC? Some other gay organization that is primarily meeting the needs of a privileged white LGBTQ peoples? One of those organizations that consistently fails to address the issues trans & gender queer peoples? It's funny, I agree, but I do think we need to question the priorities here. It's nice when the LGBTQ agenda has things besides marriage and adoption on it. It's nice when LGBTQ organizations do completely free acts of resistance in solidarity with other struggles instead of just asking for money without letting anyone know where it goes, in the vein of Pride at Work.
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Let me first say I love the video. I love the attitude (this issue deserves as much attitude as can be thrown at it), and i LOVE the delivery from everyone involved. I understand this video is not meant to sway those that are against Gay Marriage - it's meant to "rally the base" of those that support it.
However, i do think that having the kids curse was not the right move. All this does is give ammo for the FOX NEWS-types to say "See? See? we were right! gay parents ARE a bad influence!"
This video WILL be used by those that oppose gay marriage, and specifically, it will be the kids that they focus on.
I personally have no problem with kids being in the video - I agree that their parents should have the right to marry. But they could be in it without spouting f-bombs.
#75 - going to the site shows where the money is going:
http://fckh8.com/ABOUT_FCKH8.html
And i would also be in for a car magnet!
#15 - loungewear? you wouldn't wear it in public? ;)
However, i do think that having the kids curse was not the right move. All this does is give ammo for the FOX NEWS-types to say "See? See? we were right! gay parents ARE a bad influence!"
This video WILL be used by those that oppose gay marriage, and specifically, it will be the kids that they focus on.
I personally have no problem with kids being in the video - I agree that their parents should have the right to marry. But they could be in it without spouting f-bombs.
#75 - going to the site shows where the money is going:
http://fckh8.com/ABOUT_FCKH8.html
And i would also be in for a car magnet!
#15 - loungewear? you wouldn't wear it in public? ;)
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@12 if you have to have a bible verse for a name, Luke 12:49 is a really good one! Whether you are religious or not.
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@66 Where is exactly is the hate? They're pointing out the hypocrisy of the arguments of the Christian right, but they're not saying that they're going to kill them or that they'll burn in hell or whatever. Taking a stand + swearing ≠ hate speech. I'm getting really tired of the pussy liberalism that says we always have to have calm, reasonable conversations with people who don't even want us to open our mouths, let alone have an intelligent discussion with us. There is no reasoning with them. So fuck 'em.
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If your base is motivated by saying "Fuck" and by having children use foul crude language maybe it's not worth motivating.
Is that what homosexuality is about?
also saying Fuck, like homosexual kissing, doesn't have any shock value anymore.
it's just crude and boring.
Is that what homosexuality is about?
also saying Fuck, like homosexual kissing, doesn't have any shock value anymore.
it's just crude and boring.
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@79 "it's just crude and boring." Like your comments?
@80 Obviously, you have to pay extra for fabulous. And for less fabric..
@80 Obviously, you have to pay extra for fabulous. And for less fabric..
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I'm sad I'm about to be an "unregistered comment." But I've just stumbledupon your blog Savage, and this is fucking brilliant. Small children should cuss more to prove a point.
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I just love all the appeasers on here who think we should bend over and take more sand in our Vaseline from the right. Who the FUCK cares what religiotards think and the MORE we speak out like this the more they will hide in their religious whack job closets.
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Great, they've just reduced the gay-marriage debate to puerile potty-mouthing.
If republicans put out a video like this on abortion, you'd all call it inflammatory, hateful, and infantile. I can just imagine everyone posting it to their facebook profiles an example of how EVIL the right is.
The positive response towards this campaign baffles me. Calling your opponents "fuckwads" won't win you any sympathy.
If republicans put out a video like this on abortion, you'd all call it inflammatory, hateful, and infantile. I can just imagine everyone posting it to their facebook profiles an example of how EVIL the right is.
The positive response towards this campaign baffles me. Calling your opponents "fuckwads" won't win you any sympathy.
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